Pulgasari1991

I copy/pasted this directly from RentMen.. idk if you hadn't seen this, or if their description is what you were having trouble understanding, but I thought I'd throw it into this thread just in case. I really don't mean for this to come off as patronizing or condescending or anything lol, I just thought it'd be a useful to post this in this thread as a reference.
 

This is just a guess on my part but I would think “Unique “ is the number of individual users who have viewed an ad and “Profile” refers to the number of times that an ad has been viewed or clicked on.
 
Example: One person views an ad 5 times. Unique visits = 1, Profile visits = 5.
 
This is simply a guess on my part. By the way, I couldn’t find Unique visits anwhere on a profile ad. Is that part of the profile ad or part of a user’s account statistics?

Sure thing!
 
"Unique visits" refers to different guys, ie: bob, john, and peter each visited your page
"Profile visits" means total, ie: bob visited 3 times, john visited 5 times, peter visited 4 times.
 
Got it?

So yinz could date.
 

 
Thank you for giving the benefit of the doubt to someone who meets a guy through and app and has the crazy idea of suggesting having sex on the first date and later on becoming a would-be-murderer because of asking the same question twice.
 
Also thank you for acknowledging someone on a first date can just admit he (just got dumped I guess) and is looking for a hot hookup that might lead into a new relationship.
 
As they say in Argentina @latbear4blk :
 
"Doña Flora
se la sacan grita,
se la quitan llora"
 
"Ms. Flora
you pull out and she yells
you put inside of her and she screams (of pain)"
 
Damn if you do and damn if you don't

Why hint? One of the perks of paying is you don’t have to beat around the bush.

Well that’s his rationale. It’s not like he’s creating a sweeping law saying must raise your rates or be shut down. He’s just making a suggestion, and that suggestion may or may not work for him and others.
 
Nobody is perfect. There’s no specific regulations or guidelines that anyone needs to follow.
 
I’m just still not liking the whole sex workers verbally (or shall I say, literature-ly) attacking other sex workers, especially on a forum where other clients are viewing. @Kurtis Wolfe did it, you did it, several others have did it. By all means, if this is going to be a place where sex workers can’t share opinions or how they handle business without being belittled and judged by other sex workers, well maybe it’s best that no escorts participate.
 
I know one thing for sure, I’m getting off of here. That’s probably part of the reason why @Juan Vancouver and several others you can see, dont really hang around much. And I don’t know why I’m so foolish to keep doing so. But you know, better late than never.

So, a month and a half after the date of starting to “raise the rate” that this letter was inciting, 2 questions:
1. Who among you escorts have raised their rate by $100 and maintained it there?
2. Who among you clients have paid an extra $100 an hour for an escort?

What's the lesson?

It could as well be unconscious from him. But yeah, I think that at a fundamental level he's asking "when money?"

What's the lesson?

What's the lesson?

I’m happy with my rates and won’t be changing them for full service escorting.
 
Now that I’m based in SF (temporarily) and it’s a lot more convenient for me to get to clients within a smaller ratio, I’ve been thinking about adding a more affordable massage option, since I’m good with my hands. Doubt I would offer this service outside of SF tho.
 
I agree with a lot of the ideas in this thread, but I don’t think the same clients are the ones paying $50 and $500 rates, 99% of the time. That’s pretty rare for a client to agree to pay such widely varying amounts. Most clients have a price range they’re comfortable with, and they stick to it. You’ll find guys who pay $40-80, guys who pay $80-150, guys who pay $150-250, guys who pay $200-300, guys who pay $300-500, guys who pay $500-1000, and so on and so on.
 
Most (but not all) of the guys who frequent this board and RM are going to be price shoppers, but I bet a lot of them would hesitate to agree to an offer for a $20 hookup too. They might wonder what’s wrong with the situation that it’s so much cheaper than what they’re used to. Most of the guys who exclusively stroll the streets and hookup apps/sites for escorts are gonna have the lowest budgets and would balk at the idea of paying even $150. The guys who prefer to pay $250-500 might skip over an ad that lists an hourly rate of $150, assuming (perhaps falsely) that since the price is so low, the experience won’t be up to their standards. You can literally NEVER make everyone happy or choose a price that appeals to everyone.
 
Most of the types of clients who pay my rates ($1000+) don’t post on these types of boards, so one might think from reading here that they don’t exist. But Mocha, your story about changing your rate to $500 and then getting new clients doesn’t surprise me at all. Those clients are out there, and a lot of them don’t even pay attention to your ad until there is a high rate attached to it.
 
At the end of the day you should choose your rate based on what YOU need to earn, based on your opportunity costs, travel time, income needs, volume preferences, etc. If there is more resistance than you’d like, you’re simply marketing to the wrong crowd. Figure out where the guys who are happy to pay your rate are looking, which marketing tactics speak to them, what type of photos they respond to, how much advance notice and what type of Incall location they require. In my opinion, don’t change your rate- change your advertising and find the clients who are willing to pay the rates you want in order to give you the income you need.
 
Advertising the same way that $150 escorts advertise, on the same venues they advertise, using the same quality of photos, and operating under the same business model, is always gonna result in clients who WANT to pay $150 telling you that at $250, you’re charging too much. Likewise if you start advertising on grindr, you’re gonna get guys telling you that even $150 is “too much”. When I raised my rates from $200 to $500 (gradually over time), I always experienced comments about my rates being ridiculously high (even at $225 I used to get those comments). But as I changed my advertising to seek out my target audience more and more effectively, the naysayers ceased to contact me and the guys who were ready to pay my asking price found me.
 
This experience/advice I’m sharing isn’t necessarily an encouragement to raise rates even higher. Everyone should literally sit down with their business model and income needs and then decide how much they need to charge. If you’re happy with your rate then keep it! But don’t let the “going rate” control your business model. You control your rate. You can’t control how the market responds. But you can LEARN from negative market responses and adjust your advertising accordingly. You don’t have to appeal to everyone, or even most. You just have to find your people and keep them coming back.

What's the lesson?

If one asks low he will take less even from those who could afford giving more

What's the lesson?

Hmmm... this:

Means this:

 
???
 
Yes, we’re all born with the URL of this website embedded in our DNA and when we finally admit to our needs and desires we come out and join.
 
Illogical thinking aside, I so wish I had found this site way before December of 2010. Just saying!

THANKYOU! Gawd Thankyou!
 
I can only say so much now as I’m trying to make it to a session, but I’m glad someone has some sense around here.
 
People are getting so knotted up, yet they ignore that there’s an entire section called the DELI that I dare say....Quasi REVIEWS/GOSSIPS about escorts who many times, probably haven’t a clue. Atleast I notify my bad boys they’re going on the list and give them opportunity to amend.
 
I’m sure clients don’t go, “hey [uSER=12155]@Dominiking[/uSER], I Posted a thread in the Deli about you, on a forum that is frequented by thousands of people. I just wanted to ask them about you, behind your back...instead of asking you directly. hope you don’t mind.”
 
So all the huffing and puffing they’re doing on here about me posting on Twitter, is very hypocritical. I removed the link because I’m not going to be bullied, belittled and tattle telled into removing something or have something criticized by people who aren’t paying my bills nor expenses and not helping me get them paid either.

This quandary arises sometimes when talking with guys on Seekingarrangement.
 
I think that an analogy would be the refusal to buy Nike’s made with child labor in China and Taiwan thereby pressuring the shareholders, via management, to change their labor practices. Closing the shoe factory without some immediate remediating action feels good but simply makes poor people poorer.
 
Is it 1) morally right, and, 2) beneficial to the guy for me to “boycott” him if he’s in dire financial straits? If I decided that it would be morally wrong to engage the guy, keeping my money in my pocket, how would he feel about that? Perhaps simply handing him cash and walking away would come the closest to satisfying both parts of the question but I wonder if that’s realistic or sustainable.
 
With SA guys I decide how to handle it on a case by case basis.

What's the lesson?

I’ll bite... you find a distinction there? For real? Like do they cum differently if the funds are used for a vacation? Seriously dude, at least he ain’t holding up convenience stores.

What's the lesson?

What's the lesson?

What's the lesson?

Deep inside you know you love all this:rolleyes:

You had me until that last sentence. Know where I stand meaning? Sounds like you trying to be fictitious and disingenuous.
 
Anyhow, can we as S workers and supporters of S workers stop comparing the business to other businesses? Sex being compared to pizza, burgers, cars, clothing, etc. I’m sick of it. Let’s just stop.
 
Let’s face it: no matter if an escort is charging $50 or $5,000, were all on the same 1 website. Ford and Range Rover are vehicles that have been around for many decades. The average escort has been around for less than a decade.
 
The same client who shops for a $500 escort will probably go for a $50 one, if they’re hot and nearby. A Range Rover buyer will likely not buy a Fiesta. Why? Because the commitment level is different. The experience doesn’t always match price either.
 
And for the record, even if I’m at $200...who’s to say my client won’t be a Range Rover driving guy who shops at Neiman Marcus? A small bottle of cologne at Neiman can cost $200. If he decides to buy me instead of it, then I’ve done something good for the man. Or not. Maybe he thinks because he has a Range and shops at Neiman, he’s too good to pay for sex (which I believe is how the majority of gay men who have money operate mentally...which is why business doesn’t necessarily improve just because “thousands of gay men” are coming to town for a convention.
 
Or he’s driving fancy cars but is broke. Like many guys in Florida and Los Angeles are. Driving exotic cars and shit, but ain’t got no damn money to spend.
 
On the other hand, I’ve had clients who shop at Goodwill, give me 500-2,000. So...I don’t care what they drive or wear.