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Yeah. They don't make rope bondage videos like that any more. And his ass looked delicious.

The Facebook link didn't find a page. I did find some old Zeus video ads that featured someone named Scott Answer. The person didn't look like Paul Perris though it appeared from about the same time as Paul was active.

Any links or pointers to Scott Answer? Maybe I don't want to know. I look at pictures of myself from the early 90s and then in the mirror. Screw gravity.

Does anyone remember Paul Perris from CanAm/Zeus videos of the 1990s? That beautifully muscled young man knew how to suffer and flex for the camera, whether roped up solo or being spreadeagled or tied up in wrestling matches. It's a shame that he never had a full-on hardcore on-video session with another guy. I still go back to a couple of his videos. I haven't found videos of any one quite like him.

I don't know if this is the same Alex. The link in the previous post about "Alex" no longer goes to an active account on masseurfinder. I had a very nice combination therapeutic & sensual massage from this Alex when I was in London a couple of years ago. His location was close to the Tate Modern, and in a nice area in which to walk around and relax in before and/or after the session. https://rentmasseur.com/Alexnakedmasseur

Please do share who and a link if you don't mind. You can PM me if you prefer.

I agree with comments of both Oaktown and 510guy. (And thank you very much, Oaktown, for posting about Charles.) I was able to book an in-call with Charles. He made accommodation for my scheduling and location needs, though he said that he does prefer outcalls. In the course of our conversation afterwards, I totally understand why. Charles looks like his pictures (while cliche by now, I think he looks even better in person), is charming, polite and educated. As 510guy wrote, the massage was not deep tissue but neither did I ask for it. I almost drifted off to sleep a couple of times while face down. For me, this was a "wow" massage for one of my categories/moods for massage experience, and was interactive, with limits. I think one's impression is dependent upon what you are looking for a session. I am usually rather vanilla. Except when I'm not.

My impression is that pickings are slim for masseurs in Boston. For several years, I traveled to Boston almost monthly, always with time to kill in the evenings. I tried several masseurs and found the experience underwhelming. Most of them no longer have ads up on the major sites. For several others that looked interesting, I thought that the rate was too high or I didn't want to deal with Boston traffic to do the in-call in an outer neighborhood or the burbs. For old times' sake, I checked out the major sites and still had the same feeling that there is nobody that I would hire for a massage. But, boy, the escort scene sure has picked up on RM. Maybe that says something about the Boston marketplace.

Totally off the thread but I am feeling goofy this morning. I saw "Titus" in the title and immediately had an image of getting a massage from Titus Andromedon.

It seems like the jimjimbangs are more for more legit therapeutic purposes, unless you went to an exclusively gay one.

Some of the massage places seemed to advertise exclusively the slim, twinky type. Seoul seemed to be full of the slim, twinky types. Seoul, north of the Han River, and near the university district seemed to have a higher frequency of cute guys than south of the river. Nice butts and legs must be genetically-inclined, like Germans in Europe.

Now I need to re-watch the episode ("The Host" for anybody else who is curious.)

Interesting discussion about "gay" and "lesbian" and what those words mean(t) in certain decades. The ST:DS9 episode to which I referred about the lesbian kiss was between two members of an alien species as poolboy48220 correctly alludes. So this kiss on Discovery was the first human-human male-male same-sex kiss that has been shown in the Start Trek universe - either in the TOS or in the Kelvin universe.* The DS9 episode to which I referred, arguably, was about loving what is inside a person regardless of outward physical appearance. In that episode, the Trill was the symbiotic life form, two member of which had the female same-sex kiss - outwardly female in form but in symbiosis with an apparently gender-less creature that lived inside each of them. These creatures lived much longer than the humanoid host and were transplanted into a new host when the body of the host was going to die. The two outwardly female Trillss who were kissing were re-kindling their love from when they were in different hosts, one of them male and the other female. These two Trill didn't care about the outward physical appearance that defined genders. This episode was a nice recover from a similarly themed episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation - one that I found offensive when I first watched it and still do today. In that one, the Enterprise-D's human female Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Crusher, falls in love with an outwardly male Trill. The Trill's body is damaged and the symbiont has to be transplanted into the nearest Trill host species. That is a female body. Dr. Crusher coldly (IMHO) rejects the "new" Trill even though she (by form) pleads that he is still the same person inside (the same symbiont). *I am REALLY exposing my geek cred here.

The lesbian lip-lock in the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Rejoined" doesn't count as the first gay kiss?

I had a session with them several years ago. I would not recommend. It was more of a rub, and a clumsy one at that. The one with dark hair particularly seemed to be not even trying. The sensual aspects were also ineptly administered.

Reporting on my experience in Seoul for this super-popular () discussion, I opted to go to Octagon. http://www.octagonmsg.com/ The experience was exceeded my expectations. My "fighter" was Iron Man. He looked exactly like his picture on the website. While in the reception area, I saw four of the other masseurs and they looked like their online pictures too, ranging from muscular to very toned/swimmer's build. Some very handsome. The facilities were clean and located in large apartment in a residential building (kind of weird). Iron Man was tall, very muscular (verging on bodybuilder), very clean, and had a sweet smile and boyish face. Naturally smooth. His massage and other skills were good. He engaged and seemed to be enjoying himself as well. In the confirmatory email, they had revealed rates for time and activities. From another customer I learned that the rate does not equal time and that activity together. If the activity happens even in a shorter session time, you pay the higher rate. My session had no surprises. Communications to set-up and confirm the appointment were challenging. I don't think they check email or the chat line on their website regularly. I ended up calling and speaking with the manager who spoke English reasonably well (and infinitely better than my Korean). I picked out my "fighter" from the ones who would be on duty the next day. Late that night, the manager emailed to tell me that the fighter I had chosen was not available because he already had an appointment but my next back-up (Iron Man) and two other guys were available. I emailed to confirm the next morning after they opened but got no response. Mysteriously, the same phone number didn't work the next day to confirm the appointment. I downloaded and set-up the wechat app and finally connected. Then after meeting in the neighbor, the assistant manager on duty told me that Iron Man was only available for a one-hour session rather than the two-hours that I had requested. That turned out to be sufficient for what I was looking for. I recommend installing the wechat app before setting up an appointment with any outfit in Seoul. Overall, Seoul north of the Han River was great. Seoul south of the Han River (Gangnam neighborhood et al.) was boring. Seoul is still relatively inexpensive for a huge city. Getting around was easy. The subway is efficient and clean, and navigable once you figure out the ticket machines. Taxis are plentiful, clean and relatively cheap. The variety of Korean food was much more than what I've had here in the US. The people are friendly and there is a nice frequency of cute and handsome men. (I did not go out to any bars as I spent the evenings enjoying the food, beer and other fermented beverages.) There were seemingly fewer Caucasian tourists than in other big cities in Asia (and few international tourists in general), probably thanks to North Korean/US tensions. Fascinating history of the country.

I second Karl Kang. Also, Chad, confirmed by my go-to therapeutic-only masseur as having training because they were enrolled in the same school at the same time. And I know from hands-on experience that he has great hands and good massage skills plus enthusiastic play and HE. And a nice guy. https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/chadryan.shtml Both have existing threads here.

I wouldn't so much worry about the Tenderloin at 8 AM. It's MUNI that I would be worried about. Depending upon from what station you'll be boarding, be prepared for an intimate experience possibly especially when the little Chinese grandmas push on board. They look sweet....

I'm going in just under two weeks. I have been doing online research but there is not a lot of information from which to make an educated choice. I have even gone to rentmen, craigslist, adam4adam and haven't found much. The travelgayasia.com website has OK information with reviews that do include negatives. Octagon looks interesting. But I may just pass and indulge in the sensuality of good Korean food. Between the caveat emptor of pictures not looking like the masseur and my aversion to cigarette smells coupled with the high incidence of smokers in Asia, I might be disappointed by the experience. I can get my beefy Asian experience here in the US. But if you're going to be blazing a trail into Seoul a week earlier than me, please do post about your experience and recommendations. It would be nice to keep this thread active over time.

This is a great thread. Thanks to all who have commented. My partner and I, while still 10+ years from retirement, are talking about where we might want to retire. We have lived in San Francisco for decades and are financially OK. But SF has changed so much from the tech boom - and unlike from dotcom 1.0 - the changes are probably for good this time, that we don't love SF anymore and would gladly leave now if our careers weren't tied to this place. The Northern California wine country is lovely and there is a very active gay social scene and acceptance... think Healdsburg, Sonoma, Glen Ellen - but property is expensive, increasingly so. Petaluma is nice too. The Sonoma Co. airport is now served by major airlines with connections to SFO and LAX for flights. There is the new train that connects with the ferry to SF (the drive to SF can be horrendous during commute times and on Sunday afternoons). One downside is major medical care - even urgent care - requires a 30-40 minute drive to Santa Rosa. We love to visit Palm Springs but agree with the previous comment that social life seems to be centered in alcoholic haze (not that the Wine Country isn't like that either but there are more options for activities and hobbies). The cost of living anywhere in California can be high. Your dollar just doesn't go as far as in other states. The winter weather in Oregon can be dismal but spring, summer and autumn are lovely, at least for now. For those on here expecting decades of more longevity, climate change should be a real consideration, especially in coastal and arid places. My partner and I don't have an answer yet. For our more active retirement years, we have considered a semi-nomadic lifestyle of living in different places for ~1 year to continually challenge ourselves with new cultures, new people and new languages to keep our minds young. That's not for everybody. We also recognize that when settling down, we want a place with an environment that inspires healthy living, good climate without extremes, an active senior community, walkable, and easy to navigate. Some of the suggestions on here are great food for thought!

Does anyone have experiences and/or recommendations for massage and spas in Seoul, South Korea? I will be there in a couple of months, if geo-political conditions allow. I am looking for a sensual/erotic massage (rather than an escort experience) from a reasonably-trained muscular young-ish Korean guy in a clean facility. I have looked at the websites of several spas listed in the Seoul section on utopia-asia and some of the guys pictured look too good to be true, with obvious photoshopping in some cases. For background, I have had a couple of great experiences at Taiyo spa in Osaka, my first being with a hot, enthusiastic bodybuilder from Busan, South Korea and the second with a very toned Japanese guy. I have had varied experiences in Hong Kong and Bangkok. I've been to Seoul a couple of times on business but never had the time to venture out to a spa. A couple of times I was in Seoul on a business with a pu#*%-hound of a straight man who sang the praises of his experiences with female masseuses in Seoul. I'm wondering if there are male equivalents with the body-type that I am looking for. Or a repeat-type session with the Korean bodybuilder in Osaka.

Technically, I think Karl's apartment is in the Tenderloin, north of Market and a few blocks northeast of the Civic Center. His apartment is meticulously clean and the massage room was quiet with no street noise. I saw Karl early on a Friday afternoon. The street had some "interesting" people walking on it as I was waiting for my Lyft. "Interesting" as in I was propositioned by a young lady at 2:45 PM. For you non-locals, if I were to finish with Karl late-ish at night, I probably would wait inside the foyer behind the locked entrance door to his apartment building until my Lyft or Uber ride was parked at the curb. Crime is on the rise again in San Francisco.

I will 2nd or 3rd what 510guy wrote. It is an accurate summary of my experience with Karl. His spoken English is quite good now. He told me that he can neither read or nor write English yet and uses a translation app for texts. Still, he does mostly very good with texts. Karl looks like he doesn't have a gram of fat on his body. Very toned. And a nice guy. I will go back.

We look forward to your review: https://www.daddysreviews.com/submit

Regarding Sam/Fer, see the comment that I posted in this thread. https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/sam-fer-in-sf.125769/#post-1308514