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Thanks, but he is in Hong Kong, and I’m not much of a twink fan. No judgements though I’m sure he is very nice.

I have no issue having sex with my peers, but unfortunately most of them want much younger. Then again most younger guys think that guys in their 40s look old due to all the guys that lie about their age. Saw one on scruff say he was 42 and he looked like he was one step from the nursing home. Point being own your age and be proud.

I have met Tristan and would agree.

Thank you for your thoughts and advice. Truly appreciated!

Many of us hire for short visits while others do overnights or weekends. To invest that much money and spend that much time with someone requires a good match. Realize opinions will differ, but has anyone had a weekend appointment that was exceptional? Where the time flew by with few if any moments of uncomfortable situations?

Decent guy, pics are old, Massage was a little odd. I wouldn’t repeat.

Correct.

Do not assume he is local. Scammers have the ability to show up as a local and even have their location show a legitimate location on the map but they are not the person in the pic. Porn stars are frequently used for this scam. Austin Wolf and Billy Santoro pics show up daily in Grindr and its Not them, nor do they endorse it. The other scam is to ask you to show up to a hotel but buy them a steam card which is some payment card for gaming. They have you give them the numbers to the card and then gone.

Thank God for this forum and the ability to call out those who legitimately deserve it. Without our integrity the whole process would crumble as we’ve already seen an erosion of trust due to the actions of those unscrupulous players regardless of their role. I notice this dude is in Charlotte now and it’s a great reminder why I blocked him in the first place.

Thank you for a well thought out reply and I applaud you for being true to yourself. I would disagree respectfully that we don’t need more gay rights. There are still no protections in employment, however many cities and corporations have adopted it as policy. I too consider myself a moderate/centrist and tend to be fiscally conservative, but am curious if you find that the value has gone by the wayside with both parties? The next year should be interesting as there are a wide array of candidates to listen too. Should you make it to Charlotte sometime I would be honored to have a friendly discussion followed by some sweaty extracurriculars with you.

Thank you for a well thought out reply and I applaud you for being true to yourself. I would disagree respectfully that we don’t need more gay rights. There are still no protections in employment, however many cities and corporations have adopted it as policy. I too consider myself a moderate/centrist and tend to be fiscally conservative, but am curious if you find that the value has gone by the wayside with both parties? The next year should be interesting as there are a wide array of candidates to listen too. Should you make it to Charlotte sometime I would be honored to have a friendly discussion followed by some sweaty extracurriculars with you.

This is probably the best thread I’ve read since being a member. I’m 46, horny as a goat most days, but I too have cut down on hiring, and for many of the reasons others have stated. When I started in the south, there were maybe 3 guys and the occasional traveler to choose from. Now there are over 20 choices, yet many are probably from backpage, so the quality is questionable at best. Many of the new guys are very young, want to charge $300 in a $200-$250 city, have way too much attitude, and just honestly turn me off. I wait for some consistent travelers or treat myself when out of town. But the main reason I cut back is that prices are going up, but my salary hasn’t and is not keeping pace with inflation. I just don’t have the discretionary income that I used to have. I’m definitely part of the middle class that continues to shrink.

First off, what is normal anymore? Don’t let society or anyone for that matter define what a relationship is or should be. Might be worth giving some thought to what you really want. Being lonely does suck, I think most of us have felt that way. I don’t know you, but here is ghost hug. hang in there.

If I’m supporting someone as their sole income, they better be putting out 40 hours a week. Minimum. God, I wish I were rich.

I find it disgusting these individuals prey upon the stereotypical fear and shame in hiring or even being gay. I’ve had some encounters where catfish attempt to extort me, and I laugh and say what do you honestly think you can do? I have nothing to hide, but looking at your face I can see why you do. Seriously the dude hit every branch falling off the ugly tree. Couldn’t pay me to do him.

It seems there are scams on Grindr and every once in awhile Scruff where the person uses a popular pornstars photos and attempts to get you to deposit money before meeting. The one I see most often is using Austin Wolf’s pictures. After asking which hotel they are at I ask for a selfie with a bottle of the hotel shampoo in the pic and holding up fingers. I change it up. They never respond after that. Yes I know it’s a fake right away but I love wasting their time before I report them. I would only pay for travel expenses prior and even then I would have to feel very confident and the provider be well respected and reviewed before doing that. Oh, and win the lottery too.

I’m sorry this happened. It is extremely rude, but the guys that have commented are correct. Consider it a blessing in disguise and move on. I come across odd behavior often, and I’m sure it applies to both client and provider, but I just shake my head, laugh out loud and click next.

This is a good list, but there is one fool proof option I haven’t seen mentioned yet, and for a large sum, as a compromise to cash, it’s a worthy option. Fed Wire. It does require the recipient to have a US bank account, and it’s only available during business hours M-F but there is no way that once funds are received that it can be pulled back. There is typically a $20-$30 fee to send it, and even a possible fee to receive it due to the manual nature of the funds. But once received a bank cannot place a hold on those funds and it cannot be recalled. Another way one can button down the cash app and venmo process is to ask the client to send to directly instead of requesting the payment. A lot of the risk is dependent upon what the client uses as the source of their funds. If they use the free bank option the possibility of that payment being recalled is higher due to the fact the apps treat the payment as an ACH which basically debuts or pulls the money from the clients bank account. If the ACH is returned , there is a reason code telling the business why it was not honored. Most are insufficient funds, but if the reason is client advises unauthorized, they are claiming to the bank that it was fraud. They have 60 days to claim this. But, it’s not easy. The bank will require an affidavit of fraud to be signed by the client. If you receive a reversal with this reason, the you can have your bank request a copy of the fraud affidavit. Then you can take the client to civil court. Not only does the client face civil charges that a good lawyer could stick without going into too much intimate details, but the client would mostly have to pay for court costs and then possibly face criminal charges by lying to the banks about the fraud. If the client uses the debit card option, funds are paid immediately and are available immediately which can then be pulled to your bank safely. It’s pretty hard to recoup this unless the client goes the fraud route. Same if they use a credit card. So while they can recall most, it is very high risk and they are relying upon the fact many won’t want the issue public or that the escort won’t take them to court. In the end. It’s a shitty move. It shows low integrity and if you run up on hard times you do what the rest of us do. We suck it up, put on our big girl pants and control our spending.

So nobody has met him yet?

My thoughts exactly

Thanks, I actually did check before meeting him using his link as well as Nate as searches. The search engine on this isn’t the best, as I did Nate Real with a space and nothing came up. Wish I would have found this before. He advertises on Adam4 Adam too.

It’s easy to play armchair quarterback yet another to be faced with it. Instead of judging perhaps be grateful someone else shared, particularly when they did something admittedly against their better judgment.

Good for those that would have been able to walk away. I’ve been able to walk away before, but it’s not like I had his ad up holding it against his face to do a comparison. Like I said, he is still attractive but it threw me off when he answered the door and he didn’t have a beard and his hair was darker. He started talking and at first seemed affable. Said he was from Canada, which there was a car with a Quebec license plate next to where I parked. He quickly began talking about American politics and how awful it is here, which began to annoy me. It was just uncomfortable, unsatisfying. Much like a sad handjob.

https://rentmen.eu/NateDaReaL All I can say is another one of those that give all legit providers a bad name. Catfish photos and clearly much older than what’s posted. That said he is good looking so I stupidly stayed. Bad choice. After a massage he indicated time was about up. I was so disappointed, I left. I don’t get overly emotional during conflict, but I did tell him how disappointed I was and when he started with excuses and blaming me, I just turned and left. Another one of those lessons in life I continue to receive.

Sorry, I merely shortened the meaning and kept it within its context here, since this is not a courtroom, although there are plenty of judgements.... (couldn’t resist) ? hear·say /ˈhirˌsā/ noun information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor. "according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm" synonyms:rumor, gossip, tittle-tattle, tattle, idle chatter, idle talk, mere talk, report; More LAW the report of another person's words by a witness, which is usually disallowed as evidence in a court of law. "everything they had told him would have been ruled out as hearsay"