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Same here. Just when I was thinking about contacting him about a massage. Thank God for this site, it allowed me to make a connection between Keysar and MassTher. Staying away from people who seem unstable or have "issues" is my rule #1.

WOW, $165 now, inflation!

Bumping this, metro Tampa is pretty big but the offer is not that great, especially in comparison with the other side of Florida.

While I agree that the rates are generally higher in New York, $150 is not that much more than $145, and these two offer nice sensual or even erotic massages, which I have tried 😉 https://rentmasseur.com/Southernjock https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/952/ Plus Maikel is based in Miami, so the question how much sensuality he offers is very much open.

Do we have any updates here? I see potential here, even though I hate to see the $145 rate. To me, that screams that the masseur hopes you won't have the right change and will leave $160 instead. Waiting to see someone post $142.99.

Meh. He is a competent masseur but he is careful to avoid the glutes, which I need massaged. Attempts at a very mechanical HE in the end, he is fully dressed and carefully positions himself to avoid any possibility of mutual touch. While nice, the setup feels very medical. No need to go back.

Any updates? He seems like one of those "forever 40" guys, which makes me skeptical, and the $200 rate is another red flag.

He is at it again, one more name change on rentmasseur. Straight Russian swindler who will promise whatever and then pretend it was all a misunderstanding. I specifically asked if he was ok being nude and touched during the massage, and I ended up leaving early and furious. https://rent.men/SAmmyMIA https://rentmasseur.com/EuroSem https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/26036/

Thank you for your posts, I admire your persistance. It is one thing to be challenged by several aggressive comments, it's a whole new level to have your detailed answers to those deleted. It is at that point in this thread that I decided to leave this forum. Best wishes to all, I won't be writing here any more, why bother? And yeah, "system update" is one of the lamest excuses for censoring I've ever heard. Cheers, stay safe & sane.

Thank you for your posts, I admire your persistance. It is one thing to be challenged by several aggressive comments, it's a whole new level to have your detailed answers to those deleted. It is at that point in this thread that I decided to leave this forum. Best wishes to all, I won't be writing here any more, why bother? And yeah, "system update" is one of the lamest excuses for censoring I've ever heard. Cheers, stay safe & sane.

Glitch or not, this is unfair, I provided several answers with a ton of links and now all that is gone. I am out and signing off, take care!

Why did the following pages get deleted? Without any notice or explanation? I am not going to respond to these hanging comments once again.

Given the probabilities, I'd rather get COVID than the vaccine, seriously. But I am definitely going to follow all sensible measures to avoid it. As far as Sweden, they are doing better than many similar European countries that killed their economies and still didn't accomplish anything, and comparisons with the next door Denmark are interesting. Yes, the Danes were able to slow it down initially but are now catching up with the death toll whereas Sweden is pretty much done with this cycle. Sweden Coronavirus: 469,748 Cases and 8,985 Deaths - Worldometer (worldometers.info) Denmark Coronavirus: 174,995 Cases and 1,450 Deaths - Worldometer (worldometers.info) Policy questions are best analyzed without emotions. Yes, it's a dangerous virus but there is no need for hysteria and lockdowns. As Raoult says, locking up healthy people is insane and has never been done in human history until now. And empirical data are clear, lockdowns and masks don't help anyway: Ivor Cummins - YouTube

2 problems. What exact risk level is acceptable and who decides about it? More importantly, and regarding "health orders," I WISH they were as rational as seat belt laws and laws against drunk driving. There is solid empirical support for those but, if anything, masks and lockdowns have been empirically shown to have NO discernible effect. In other words, I am for the "Swedish approach." Or SD/FL approach, sorry NY/CA/Chicago, you suck.

I don't see how you can get in the car and drive with this logic. Heck, you can hurt someone if you get on a bike or skateboard.

Of course, you are welcomd to trust NYT, I trust his responses to numerous attacks that he gave in various interviews, and believe that his numbers are actually much better. That together with that other link that i gave illustrates why I feel the way I do, that's all.

I go by the success rate of curing COVID at his facility in Marseille, I don't care about his personal qualities.

I am definitely back to getting massages. I take the usual basic precautions that have helped me avoid seasonal flus over the years (in fact, I don't remember the last time I had it), washing hands and not touching eyes/mouth/nose, and not getting close to anyone who coughs and/or looks ill. I am not particularly scared of COVID, nor do I wear a mask unless I am required to by the business I go into. Ivor Cummins - YouTube This one is in French, Dr. Raoult is the world's most published researcher specializing in infectious deseases. He doesn't wear a mask and thinks that lockdowns are idiocy. And yeah, hydroxychloroquine works. IHU Méditerranée-Infection - YouTube

Basic massage #200 an hour, erotic $300. 90 minutes erotic $425, which is kind of lame, why not $424.99? At that level, you are probably using $20 bills, so it's really $440. Way too much, sorry, even though he is obviously hot.

He is hot (I love mature guys who are in shape) and friendly, even though he does tend to talk a lot and brag about his entrepreneurial ventures. He does other things, and doing massages seems to be a way to supplement his income. But this also seems to get in the way of good service. Not everyone is crazy about hearing how smart his masseur is and how he cares about things other than the massage. The final straw in my book is that he no longer responds to texts other than to send an automated response with a link to a site where you are supposed to book his service, with a deposit required. The booking process makes it impossible to ascertain whether you can get that 1-hour sensual instead of that boring 2-hour rubdown. I saw him in the past in Chicago and we were crossing paths recently in Indy, so I thought maybe I could try again. But then I ran into that wall of having to book online. I decided to pass. Oh, well.

Chicago is a painful topic as most of my favorites (Nikola, David, Brad) have left town and/or stopped doing business. I see similar pricing dynamics around here as well. You can get a good massage from a hot hunk willing to do it naked and be gently touched for under $160 an hour: Kris_col, Erotic & Therapeutic Gay Massage in Chicago, IL (rentmasseur.com) TommyParker, Erotic & Therapeutic Gay Massage in Chicago, IL (rentmasseur.com) Mateomartinezhot, Erotic & Therapeutic Gay Massage in Chicago, IL (rentmasseur.com) LukasWilson, Erotic & Therapeutic Gay Massage in Indianapolis, IN (rentmasseur.com) On the other hand, some guys are pushing it, so I refuse to try: LeoMillan, Erotic & Therapeutic Gay Massage in Chicago, IL (rentmasseur.com) Chicago Gay Massage - Male Masseurs for Men in IL - Masseurfinder Indycarlos, Sensual & Therapeutic Male Massage in Indianapolis, IN (rentmasseur.com) BTW, Jake is excellent but he has raised his rate from $160 to $180. Fortunately, he charges the same for outcalls, so this crosses back into the acceptable range in my book. musclejake, Erotic & Therapeutic Gay Massage in Chicago, IL (rentmasseur.com)

Nothing, really. I just want the $160 an hour massage as described. But if he tries to charge $200 for it, which is what some masseurs are trying, I am out. I usually go for 90 minutes, so anything up to $240 is fine and I will leave a tip if the experience is good, but that's it. Gotta draw the line somewhere. ;-)

Even for NYC, $160 is my upper limit per hour for a sensual/erotic massage with a hot guy at his place, both nude and mutual touch. In fact, you can get that for LESS event there: https://rentmasseur.com/Samgl https://rentmasseur.com/Southernjock https://rentmasseur.com/BradPittman But other guys are chosing to push it, and I wonder whether this busniess decision is working for them. I am including some who check all 3 boxes, I haven't included some who offer sensual/erotic only as their service is probably escorty. https://rentmasseur.com/Stronger https://rentmasseur.com/eddiemanhattan https://rentmasseur.com/Johnsport

A quick update to my previous post. I am not sure whether masseurs have noticed ?, but the world has been turned upside down and we are in serious recession. The previously insanely high apartment rents in places like NYC & SF are coming down and many people are out of work. So, I am puzzled by aggressive price increases by some masseurs. Some admittedly hot guys are charging $200 an hour for nude massage with touching allowed. Sorry, my psychological limit is still $160, which was until recently and hopefully still largely is a standard. In bad economic times, you’d expect rates to come down, not go up. Of course, every masseur is free to set his own rate, but there are good and there are dumb business decisions. Thoughts & experiences?

He changed his rentmasseur name, now at https://rentmasseur.com/Alex_muscle. The erotic option is no longer checked, which could be a sign of bad reviews due to high expecations, and he might be trying to readjust those. It does seem, though, that nude massage with touching is available for $200 an hour, but this is pushing it in my book. Would love to hear about recent experiences.