MrMattBig

Do as I Say. Not as I Do?

Not sure I quite understand your reply, but I am just commenting on the hypocrisy that can be interpreted when the shoe is on the other foot.

Would it be terribly awkward if a prospective client reached out to you to exchange contact info for possible future hiring? Given the uncertainty of the future existence and availability of sites, it may be the only opportunity to establish contact. I haven’t been at this long enough to establish a base of regulars, and there are several guys, both here and on RM that have sparked my interest. Most are out of my area, but I thought it would be a good idea in case they wander my way, or I wander their way.

It is not awkward, but please try to book in advance, if you don't, don't be surprised or upset when you finally do try to schedule something that said escort is already booked or unavailable.

It becomes awkward and uncomfortable when a prospective client becomes upset when this happens after they saved your number for future reference. It makes us feel guilty and helpless because we can't control who booked when and how long before you contacted us.

Lately I have received PMs from “newbies” asking me to share my experience with masseurs I have commented about on this forum. I provide very general details, but the newbie keeps pressing for a play-by-play commentary - which I refuse to give.

 

Is anyone else experiencing this?

Anytime someone pesters anyone in this industry for more explicit details after a initial response has been given, CAUTION/AVOID

Interesting enough, that seems to be the sentiment here, but I was damn near persecuted for taking the same precautions when I first joined this site.

Not being cheap but the price range seems to be at 90 - 150. The sweet spot is around 120.

 

Just me: 150 is a bit of a stretch. I usually go for 120 or less. Share your thoughts guys maybe some masseur member here will get an insight how the market works. Also, for empowering us customers. Coz at the end of the day...we deserve what we pay for and we drive the market

I would venture to say a service provider's overhead costs (i.e. massage table, oils, lotion, training, travel costs, furnishings, etc.) are a greater drive for market prices.

Green hanky in the back pocket - left side top; right side bottom.

What if your vers?

I’m so confused... every RM ad has an I Am Into section under Services and Donations with options: Anal | Feet | Kissing | Cum | Nipples | Role Play | Spanking | Socks | Armpits | Fisting | Foreskin | Jocks | Muscle | Rimming | Shaving | WS | Oral | Groups

 

Are these not interpreted as sexual acts?

"What I am into" is indicative of describing interests, which in turn is describing attributes of oneself.

This is no different than listing stats.

What crosses the line of sexual acts or implied sexual acts would be listing a "menu" or "services".

RM does give the option to list "boyfriend experience" under "available for".

This is probably the most substantial thing that can get RM in trouble.

I’m not sure it’s hysteria so much as now that the subject has come up, it’s a way for individuals in both parties to show their support for decency and morals. It will play well in their home districts. While if they had voted no-whatever their actual feelings are, it would be easy for someone to attack them for it at reelection time.

 

 

Gman

This is actually a very valid point.

Politicians across the board probably considered the better PR move, rather than make an actual informed vote. As an escort, image is crucial, and for government officials it is no exception.

That's extremely worrisome, isn't the government supposed to be by the people, for the people, rather than look at what looks good for reelection?

How the news outlets are covering this is worrisome as well. They are completely make it seem that it's just about sex trafficking, and it's law enforcement that is telling news outlets this in such a way. With Trump blasting fake news all the time, it's hard to see that sometimes information is beyond just simply real or fake.

News is always has the potential to be biased, incomplete, or not 100 percent true. I have actually witnessed this first hand. There was a police involved shooting over a domestic dispute at the local courthouse where I used to live a few years back. The guy had a knife and the police shot and killed him. What the news reported is that the knife welding man was rushed to the hospital and died there, what actually happened is that they shot him and he died right where they shot him outside the courthouse.

Only one ambulance came for the domestic voilence victim for knife wounds, and when I made my way out, I could see his body on the ground, and stood on site for 30-45 minutes after trying to see if I could get my car out from the police baracade, and they never rushed the attacker to the hospital.

Always consider what someone else says or does even reporters, as possibly flawed.

Once this bill was born, possibly as a political PR move or personal vendetta, it was always going to pass. Like Gman said, who would vote against stopping sex trafficking?

I really don't get the whole thing. If I go online and contact some stranger and have them come fuck me it is OK but if I basically do the same thing for money it is some how horrible. It is nutty. I guess someone thinks they should be getting a cut of the action.

We are on the path that pretty soon nsa hookups will be assumed as containing a transaction. (

Isn’t the emphasis on this, and other recent news about cracking down on prostitution, a crackdown on underage prostitutes and those forced into it. This wouldn’t apply to sites like RentMen. That’s not to say that the recent federal legislation doesn’t raise concerns about sites being shut down by internet servers, but police activity doesn’t seem to be focusing on gay sites full of adult males. Am I wrong on this?

Not to go into the whole issue here, but if you are stating you feel the emphasis is to crackdown on underage prostitution and those forced into it, wouldn't that apply to investigation for such cases on RentMen and gay sites full of adult males as well?

Identification can be faked.

No fluffer job title, but plenty of cross over roles to fulfill that task!

Yours truly is the newest featured model on Menonedge.com

Current shooting location for my scene was based in Las Vegas

I travel to LA monthly/bi monthly:D:D

You can make cash deposits into a bank account. If it is less than $10,000 per transaction it is not likely to raise eyebrows or trigger IRS scrutiny.

Most banks actually have a cash deposit limit amount per month. The government gets alerted to possible money laundering through this process.

Interesting -- Appreciate the feedback I need to look into these options -- My local long time Gentleman Caller/friend takes my old-fashioned paper check for his consulting work. ;)

I have taken a check before only from someone I trusted and knew was good for the check.

Familiarity and trust are key if you are looking to pay using non-cash methods.

Cash app is awesome as it is the same as Square.

Venmo is a branch of PayPal now, so I only use Venmo as a secondary option considering PayPal's history amongst sex workers.

I am sitting here in front of the fireplace and I have put a Pot Roast on the Stove to slow cook .

And I am thinking how nice it would to spend this sleepy snowy day with a lovely gentleman caller.

 

But when it snows I hunker down -- so the issue is $$$$ at home - as opposed to being able to use CC's which for me were always better for the Gentleman because I never watched the clock knowing everything would be covered and room for tip.

 

It seems Agencies are Dead --- Perhaps a Billing Coop to process CC/Debit Cards would be a good alternative?

 

Opinions?

 

Someone lost a 5-6 hour date and an amazing pot roast and potato pancake dinner with red spiced cabbage and apples

 

As well as an afternoon/eve of Kiss/Kink/Cuddle

I (as well as a few other professional escorts) will take electronic payments via Cash.me and other mediary payment apps for clients we have seen in the past.

When someone asks you over the phone are you more top or bottom how do you answer?

1. Have you had a chance to view my website?

It will describe more about me, and the type of experience we could have together.

2. If you are asking me to describe myself, I would consider myself equally versatile

3. I come prepared to every meeting ready to handle any situation.

To speak more broadly, if you speak in terms of describing yourself, there is no harm in that.

For example, you state as a client " I am a power bottom into fisting".

My reply would be " oh, sounds like we would get along great together".

The problem would be if we talk about actively doing that act together.

If you said " I am a bottom, are you able to fuck me and cum in my mouth?"

If I said yes, that is agreeing to a sex act, and when money is involved, that is prostitution.

Also, if my profile and website say I am vers and a switch, do I inherently have to be more top or bottom? If I am into both, but you are only looking to top or bottom, is that a turn off to some?

It's the refusal to discuss sex that matters, not the disclaimer.

I agree 1000 percent!!!

I think it very important to never discuss sexual acts when inquiring or arranging a meeting.

The problem is that most inquires demand that they verify you will do XYZ if they are to pay you x dollars. This is why the idea of the disclaimer emerged to try and protect both parties.

Not to mention, law enforcement tends to pick targets to investigate for human trafficking and prostitution, so having a disclaimer helps communicate "I am not falling for your tricks"

looking at some of the escort profiles in rentmen.com I realized that most of you also offers massage services, in fact different massage services. My question is, what is the difference between a sensous massage and an erotic massage?

Preference in marketing vernacular.

When I meet with my lawyer, we are in a room with no windows, no microphones, and no cameras. What happens there is between two consenting adults.

 

When I used to consult on patients, I was in a room with no windows, no microphones, and no cameras. What happened there was between two consenting adults.

 

Did money "change hands?" Eventually, although in each case it was "on my tab."

 

I've also had two escort experiences that were "hands off", and no sex occurred, although money changed hands.

I agree, the mention of no money of sexual acts proceeding the consenting adults phrase is what suggests that is what the consenting adults are doing: sex.

If disclaimers read "Money exchanged is a donation to help with living costs. Anything that occurs during our time together is between two consenting adults", without the mention of sex, everything would be better. The mere mention of sex when money is involved is the real culprit that makes disclaimers faulty.

I find myself in need of therapy.

I am taking appointments:D

Tell me what's on your mind...

I just want to point out that you guys are making a lot of assumptions. Maybe those assumptions make sense as generalizations based on your own experiences, but they are rank speculation when it comes to a specific situation with which you have no direct personal involvement. Before leaping to conclusions about what people supposedly know and don’t know, you should remember that people can only be convicted of a crime if the State proves they are guilty of a particular crime on a particular date in a particular jurisdiction. The fact—and it is a fact—that at least some RM advertisers on at least some occasions provide nonsexual companionship/nonsexual massage/nonsexual coaching services for an hourly fee, raises plenty of doubts, imho, about whether any given RM advertiser is actually engaged in criminal activity on a particular occasion. That’s why cops go to the trouble of setting up undercover stings operations…they need specific, reliable, admissible evidence of a particular crime, not just “common sense” assumptions about what people are up to. So, while I don’t claim to have any particular expertise beyond what I read on the Internet, I would say that more important than the specific “disclaimer” language in an ad, is what someone says and does with an undercover cop. If there is nothing sexual going on, then you are innocent and in a strong position to defeat any unwarranted charges. If there is something sexual going on, then you are obviously at much greater risk of being accused and convicted of a crime. To minimize this risk, you should probably be as careful in person about what you say (avoiding anything explicit or that could be interpreted as offering a sex-for-money exchange) as you are in your ad.

You just stole my heart!!

Might have to schedule a visit to Seattle soon!:p

It's simply this:

Insinuating sex acts with money involved for a set amount of time together

Vs

Helping someone become a better version of themselves through health improvements with money involved for a set amount of time together.

(e.g. “I do not accept money for sexual acts. I am compensated via contributions for my time only. Anything that happens during that time is a decision made between two consenting adults”).

Hey Matt! Why do you think a jury or a judge would take that disclaimer more seriously than the standard one?

Hey Matt! Why do you think a jury or a judge would take that disclaimer more seriously than the standard one?

All rates and fees stated and discussed are for my time only, with the purpose and intent of serving as your personal enrichment guide. I accomplish this using the knowledge I have acquired as a self-taught alternative sex-positive therapist; aiding in the improvement of sexual and psychological health, happiness, competence, and emotional and spiritual well-being. As such, the only services I provide are consulting, counseling, coaching, and therapeutic introspection training. No quid pro quo exists in regards to my time or services. "

The OP's example insinuates a sex act is taking place by the phrase "consenting adults".

Furthermore, this phrase is ancient and worn, so much so that law enforcement knows how to get around that disclaimer/defense so easily.

Throw them a curve ball, they won't know what to do with it.

I find this generic disclaimer useless.

Like all things in life, growth, evolution, and ingenuity lead to betterment.

This is my current disclaimer on my website.

"All rates and fees stated and discussed are for my time only, with the purpose and intent of serving as your personal enrichment guide. I accomplish this using the knowledge I have acquired as a self-taught alternative sex-positive therapist; aiding in the improvement of sexual and psychological health, happiness, competence, and emotional and spiritual well-being. As such, the only services I provide are consulting, counseling, coaching, and therapeutic introspection training. No quid pro quo exists in regards to my time or services. "