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Thank you BuffaloKyle!

I would married that boy if I could 

One of the best asses ever!

I forgot about him. It was a hard time to break into escorting when it was during the pandemic. Hopefully he's happy and doing well in life currently.

for those who weren't around back then.....(two pages of threads!)
https://www.companyofmen.org/search/?q=ziya&quick=1
Ziya was a forum member and posted quite a bit back in the 2021-ish years, but evidently requested full deletion from the forum at some point.....

Mike Jeffries, the former CEO of Abercrombie & Fitch who was charged with sex trafficking, has dementia and late-onset Alzheimer’s disease, his legal team said in newly filed court documents.
A neuropsychologist diagnosed Jeffries following several evaluations, according to two filings filed in a New York court on Monday.
Brian H. Bieber, an attorney for Jeffries, began questioning the businessman's attentiveness, competency and focus, the filing states.
"The Michael Jeffries who presented himself did not even come close to resembling a master’s degree-educated individual, who was just nine years earlier, the chief executive officer of a publicly traded company," the document says.
Jeffries was arrested in West Palm Beach, Florida, in October on sex trafficking and interstate prostitution charges. He was released on $10 million bond with a judge ordering that he be confined to home detention with GPS monitoring and prohibiting him from traveling without the proper approval. He also had to surrender his passport.
Jeffries has pleaded not guilty to one count of sex trafficking and 15 counts of interstate prostitution.
Former Abercrombie & Fitch CEO, who is charged with sex trafficking, has dementia, lawyers say
WWW.NBCNEWS.COM Mike Jeffries, who his lawyers say also has Alzheimer's disease, has pleaded not guilty to one count of sex trafficking and 15 counts of interstate prostitution.  

For those who follow this kind of stuff, all this A and F execs sex party stuff has been common knowledge for many years. 

I keep getting more and more providers in Europe saying they don't check the site often and to message them on IG or WhatsApp. Many guys have special IG accounts just for "that stuff". What's App I'm used to but aren't we getting bold going to IG, even if it is also "encrypted end to end" now ? OTOH guys don't have answering services often and Its hard to get them on site chat or WhatsApp anymore.  

Update: I saw the stellar ScottVersHung again. Huge price tag for an overnight, but he really is worth it. 
 
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A lot of guys confuse their muscularity for masculinity. Or at least they hope you’re willing to. 

$700. For a 3 hour experience with a well reputed guy. Planned it for months.
 
It was a really great experience! Until he shat profusely on my dick, looked back, smiled, giggled, and said “oopises”.

That’s not what a twink is. A twink is just a gay with a young appearance and a slim body. Typically someone in their 20s (doesn’t have to be early 20s). Troye Sivian is the prototypical twink and he is 29. As for a 63 year old man being attracted to someone who is 18,  I (being 30 myself and still classified as a twink by my friends) agree with you is pretty disturbing. I also find old men using the term “play” kinda gross but that’s just me. 
 

maybe you are covering for an addiction of your own? Just stop it. For what it is worth in NYC I get hit on on the street, at the gym, at the pool by twinks...have no idea why...my dad bod? my big member? who knows..sometimes it makes me uncomfortable they are so persistent...but they are of legal age and have to respect their enthusiasm...

This is extremely cringe and creepy! You’re into 18 year olds that look like children?? Aren’t you middle aged? Some of you need stronger meds and lots of therapy… and I’m being super nice here! 

Have followed him on Instagram for a few years. Definitely gay, almost definitely a bottom, recently moved out from living with a boyfriend/sugardaddy after finishing up school in Texas and some travels around meeting other generous daddies and gents.
 
He seems to have a tension between discretion, shyness, his background, and his athlete image VS eagerness for attention, being gay and out, showing off that beautiful butt, adapting to Los Angeles, what to do in addition to his athletic career and being presumably on a visa. 
 
Honestly I assumed he was sugaring or escorting since a few years ago when he was in Palm Beach and Miami but couldn’t say for sure, maybe too demure or fussy about it unless he really likes you but he does seem to naturally prefer successful “bears“ … his Grindr profile in WeHo indicates he likes massage and bears too, so maybe that’s truly authentic to his preferences. He has a subscription option on IG (mostly showing off that beautiful butt) and responds to DMs with varying engagement. I suppose he’s, of course, following a predictable trajectory now for someone who looks like, is built like, he is. Hopefully it is favorable and fortuitous for him. 

A lot of guys confuse their muscularity for masculinity. Or at least they hope you’re willing to. 

A lot of guys confuse their muscularity for masculinity. Or at least they hope you’re willing to. 

Anyone know his rates?

DING DING DING.  We have a bingo!
It's like knowing the difference between a piece of shit 'leather good' from LV versus quality Italian calfskin from Loro Piana.
But many people today just group anything not in their price range as 'not worth it' or 'a scam'
It's how they justify it themselves...  By shitting on something they know nothing about.

'shoot your shot'...the boy was giving handjobs at Johnsons with 'EVAN PEIX" for 20 bucks a couple yrs ago...girl bye 

Fine and well. I could keep writing a book about it 🤷🏻‍♂️

You can see on his IG that he's seasoned in the East Coast "network" of IG boys for discreet hire and notable, busy, gentlemen who connoisseur them. That's why he was expecting/asking $1k+... for anyone familiar that grade/class/style/type of guy seeks most of his work through social media DM, probably started their career being brought in by friends as "party favors"  with "VIP" gentlemen either at private parties or the obvious circuit parties run by "promoters," where the standard is the boys leave with envelopes or Venmos of a few grand and connections with new hot guys to hookup with, earn with, and the daddies and gents who scheduled dates, followed on social media, etc.
This is where things can get touchy.. the guys who are DL bi, "gay for pay", ambiguous, etc. often can continue to command multigrand prices if they are good at the game. The gay ones, being naturally more fluid and comfortable with the environment to party and play (and not infrequently, maybe, addendum erotic interest in cleancut successful gentlemen in a range of age and range of nerdiness to glamorousness), often end up maneuvering a range from multi hundreds ($500+, enough to be ~above~ an average escort via RM or porn, but selectively as coveted) to a few thousand when and where they can maintain the interest. Things like follower count/popularity/known exclusivity/ who you've shot with or modeled for/ if you're actually signed with an agency/ and where you're based etc. are all factors in effect for what you may negotiate or pay with these kinds of guys. This provider is Ivy educated it seems? Absolutely contributes to his expectations. There are very discreet "agents" or networkers who seek this out as well to groom the type of guy for professional or exclusive dates with all manner of successful and discreet guy some of whom may be on this forum but I deduce most are not. 
Like someone mentioned, they met this provider for less than $1000, didn't surprise me, but I'd bet it wasn't the $300 escort "standard". Similarly know a kept boy of a certain gay Hollywood bigshot still meeting interested parties for $500 dates despite presenting as the $1k+ type standard. The Brazilian babe surcharge NY-FL mentioned here on other threads is often because of this too. They're balancing interest via social media and, discreet or not, ads on RM.
This provider didn't get on RM delusionally expecting $1k, he was already groomed that way. I'm guessing the recent change in profile is because he's tired of the seedier enquiries via RM from guys maxing out at $400. Likely, one could reach him via IG DM for business but expect that $1k price tag in place or at least his starting point. It's not arrogance per se, mind you -it becomes something of a competition and discreet status game to be commanding the highest and most exotic offers, to be sought after for these parties... and subseqently presenting the most fabulous life online. None wants to be the one caught lowering their business to "whore" levels, and that often becomes an inside joke only for and among themselves.
Major extra caveat here is how this all works out when factoring international marketplace prices etc. but that's for a different tangent. 

Fine and well. I could keep writing a book about it 🤷🏻‍♂️

I could have said all of this in half as many words, but this seems reasonable.