biggerbilly

Is it just me, are has XXL become the Smith of Escorts last names?

I don't want thing to get too political here, (good luck with that) but I'm generally interested in knowing from the guys based in DC, and from the frequent travelers, if one party does better for business when there in power.

Hmmm, I should start naming total top and see if history repeats itself

I’m referring to the fantasy stereotype I see being mentioned everywhere. I know reality is different.

It’s funny that there is general consensus for what a true top is. Macho, straight acting He-man top. I wonder if there’s a general consensus for a true bottom? I don’t have one. Do any of the tops here have one? I just like a guy that loves getting fucked. I find the twinks on Helix extremely sexy because they enjoy getting rammed. But I love the muscles bottoms on Tim Tales the exact same amount. I don’t think there is a fantasy bottom the same way there is a fantasy top.

Which is why I don’t get bottom shaming, isn’t that just called self-loathing?

Believe it or not, I don’t disagree with the majority of your post. I just categorize it differently. I think what you are talking about is false advertising. If I promise you one type of service but deliver another, then that wrong and I deserve all the negative reviews you can give me. However, if I promise you a professional service and I deliver that service, but later on you find out that I personally do something else, is that wrong? Am I a liar? Everyone talks about bottom shaming, which I don’t like or understand. But, people seem to not acknowledge the top shaming that goes on. As a top, apparently I’m a closet case who’s not in touch with my sexual. That I have issues with gay men, and I’m secretly a homophobe. This is surprising, all this time I just thought I like how topping made my penis feel, and the look on my partners face. Apparently, I hate them. Who knew?

LMAO!!!! Sorry, I live in the area. Dry spot.

Hey Eric, I tried to clarify this in my first paragraph. I am not asking for escorts to be what they’re are not, or do what they don’t want to. No, I don’t pay more. On several occasions people on here made it a point of saying that that was a thing to do. It drives me nuts every time I see that. I accept what a guy puts in his profile. If he a top, I move on. I may sometimes vent my frustrations (like now) but I accept things. Just to clarify one more time, it’s others not doing the same that gets to me. Accept that a guy saying he’s a top, is a top.

I love it too!

First, I’m glad someone got what I was saying! Now on to the part I’ve bolded, I can think of several escorts that have gone from verse to verse/top to just tops. I can’t speak to way each of these guys did this. However, I did message a guy who went from verse to verse/Top. I asked if he wasn’t interested in bottoming anymore, and he told me he was as versatile as he always was. He was attracting more eyes to his profile. He did eventually go back to verse. Like I said, I’ve seen a lot of guys go into the direction of total top. I never seen it go the other way. But I haven’t been here for forever, maybe someone can point me to guys that have gone the other way? I really interested in learning that this has happened a few times, so if you got it, share!

I knew people were going to ignore my first paragraph, lol. I’m not asking for anything to be fair, I’m asking for people to do what they don’t want. Basically, my point can be boiled down to the following, “take the win!” As someone who has accepted there being not as many bottoms and verse guys to choose from, I find it crazy that a guy can advertise as a Top, put in his ad that he will only Top, and someone can just say pass because they saw him bottom once.

Pre-rant clarification: Before I go on my angry rant, I want to first clarify a few things. I am not in anyway arguing against people being total Tops or Bottoms. I myself am a total Top, and I feel people shouldn’t be ashamed of what they like to do sexually. By extension, I am also not arguing against escorts advertising as total Tops are Bottoms. I definitely don’t want an escort to do anything they don’t want to do, or not be able to deliver something they can’t. Angry Rant: YOU GREEDY BOTTOMS ARE GETTING ON MY FUCKING NERVES RIGHT NOW! IT’S BAD ENOUGH THAT THE INDUSTRY IS ALREADY GEARED TOWARDS YOU, MUST YOU FUCKING MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE ELSE TOO! Normal Rant: Okay, so as a Top I known I’m in the minority of the escort hiring market. I try my very best to accept that. Every time a sexy guy gets posted to Deli, I know not to get my hopes up because he’s probably going to end up being a total Top. If I’m lucky, he will be a Top/Verse and I can start the uncomfortable process of decoding what that really means. Sometimes, I’ll mention my disappointment in someone being a top and I will get the same response. “Well I’m sure if you make a good enough offer,” someone will say, ”he maybe persuaded to go the extra mile.” Wonderful, $350 is not enough. I have to shell out more now. Well today, I show a post that just pissed me the fuck off. In a discussion about one of the many guys I would kill to hire (but can’t because he advertises as only a top) a guy says he wouldn’t hire him because he bottomed in a film. Suggesting that he wasn’t a real top. Excuse me? Seriously WTF!!!! I have to go out of my fucking way to find someone who will agree to bottom, while you can just push aside someone who took it up the butt once? You asshole! You’re the one ruining it for me. You’re the reason everyone guy has to advertise as a Top, and put “100% Top,” “Total Top” “Don’t ask me to bottom,” all over their profile. You’re the fucking reason I’m having to decode every profile I see, just to find a clue he may agree to bottom. You’re the one who makes me have to constantly ask what the hell a Verse Top is! You’re the reason I have to pay more money to do most of the fucking work! FUCK OFF YOU, AND ALL YOU GREEDY BOTTOM BITCHES! IF YOU WANT A TOTAL TOP, HIRE A GUY BORN WITHOUT A FUCKING ANUS!!!

Uhhhh! This post makes me so fucking mad! This is why every guy puts up an ad has to put Total Top every where across their ad! Why I can’t hire anybody! Because if they give the slightest hint at being verse, they are suddenly worthless! Really? I’m a tops. I’m tired of having to decode ads. Of figuring out what the hell verse top actually means. It’s because of post like this, I have to deal with “if you pay more I can bottom” nonsense. I don’t want to decode or pay more then asking price! For god sake, enough with this shit! If you want total tops, only hire guys born without an anus!

He uploaded it by accident, it was a family photo. It’s gone now.

I got him to unlock and I see what you are talking about. I decided to ask him about it. I won’t post it here because he does look young in it, but nothing is happening in the pic. Fully clothed and nothing at all sexual. It’s like a cheesy Polaroid you’d take with a relative. The guy in it looks like he just returned from the hospital or something. Very odd to include in a RentMen profile

A lot of homophobia is caused by the belief that “the gays are coming to convert you.” I argued that that ridiculous, only to see thread like this, appear again and again. I guess there’s no use to that. I not going to ask any not to hire straight guys, do what makes you happy. But if you do, especially if you are only interested in str8 guys, please do me one thing. Don’t ever protest, or speak out against conversion therapy!

I think you wear them in both. I was born after the code. Well technically during, but it was no use to me, lol. But I’m fascinated by it. http://78.media.tumblr.com/a172796a0a200d5cb91722b31efafff6/tumblr_owyj0bYE6T1tjnp1xo1_1280.jpg http://78.media.tumblr.com/a02dddb149a4a799c643a042028da7aa/tumblr_owyj0bYE6T1tjnp1xo2_250.jpg

bumping, hoping someone sees him while his in ATL

As a LI guy, I wish I could go to one of these. However, it seems the mission of these guys to have events when I’m working, lol. I work Sundays and Thursday, and I’m a second shifter. By the time I would get there, everything would have ended an hour earlier. Worst yet, whenever there’s a Friday or Saturday event, it in NYC. And at the Townhouse no less.

In addition, if any of you guys are using Grindr/Scruff or any apps as a means of advertising, or as a backup plan if the bottom falls out, and you don’t view freebies as competition; you better start!

@FTM Zachary Prince , you’re putting all your clients as a FTM escort on the same level as that of both gay/straight providers which I don’t think is an accurate picture. How many gay men hire female escorts and straight men hire gay ones? You fall into a unique category. In looking at the psychological differences between the hiring practices of gay and straight men, your answer probably lines in the hiring practices of straight and gay women.

Is it possible to be successful, of course. The question is how likely. And yes, if a relationship has developed, price may not be an issue. But, a relationship doesn’t always happen after the first meeting. Everything requires a lot of things falling into place. Finding enough rich gay guys, with that kink, and developing enough relationships. I think you should probably consider something on the side before counting your fortunes. I do think this thread is coming at things from the straight side of the fence. As noted by @MikeyGMin, the gay market place is different. You’re already dealing with a smaller market to begin with. And sex is not hard to come by. Do you know how many blow jobs I’ve been offered today on grindr? I don’t think a guy on tinder is getting that message as much.

I don’t have access to those pics. If you have both apple and Firefox, you can hit the Command Key and ‘M’ key at the same time. That allows you to view media and get its web address. If you (or anyone with access to those pics) can do that, I can figure out what’s going on.

You make it sound so easy. First you need to find a group of men, hopefully local, who have this precise kink. Then you have to hope that that can afford to pay $1000 an hour. And not only that, but are able to pay for more then 1 hour, and one a regular basis. Now let's say you are lucky enough to achieve all of this. You now have to pray to god they don't find someone that charges $500.