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you're entirely correct, of course, but my suggested "remedy" is intended to prevent any client from even getting to the awkward point of having to say no....we've all read the stories here of clients having just arrived to a provider's room and suddenly being shaken down for money by a hulking 6-4 beast who's standing between the client and the door.....

seems like I've been reading a lot more lately here in The Deli about clients who are getting scammed by providers who ask for payment up front upon first meeting.....this is a perennial topic, I know, and we've all read the periodic ALL BOLD FACE cautions offered by various forum members to DON'T DO IT.......yet we still hear that it happened again......I do know some clients always pay up front and never have a problem and other clients run for the hills if a "pay now" request is made.....any other number of variations on the transaction protocol exists....
I've mentioned this possible solution before, but I'd really like these horror stories to become a thing of the past.....if meeting a new provider for the first time, I'll usually politely mention in pre-meet planning that 1) I'll pay at the end of the meet, 2) that I don't want to talk money at all during the meet, and 3) then I'll ask the provider if all that is ok with him......I don't feel the need to do this, though, if meeting with a much-trusted, forum-endorsed, and/or friend-referred provider......this all sounds simple and efficient, but I fear some clients are uncomfortable talking money before the meet (other than the 'fee for your time" inquiry).......I certainly know providers are occasionally scammed/burned themselves and can have a 'once-bitten-twice-shy' policy.......and I know incall/outcall meet location can affect who has the upper hand......
'money on the dresser', a quick flash of the money beforehand, etc. may be 'meet you halfway' options......

So many fakes. Its getting nearly impossible to hire.

Well, that is disappointing.

Thank you guys for looking into and contacting this guy! 

Thank you for the research. Ill know to avoid!

So many fakes. Its getting nearly impossible to hire.

So many fakes. Its getting nearly impossible to hire.

Asked for face pix and got photos from three different guys.
When I called him on it...his response was: "'I'm discreet".
So none of the pics are likely authentic.

They do lie about age, stats etc.
At least we have the MF to communicate about these frauds.

Hiring has become a really tricky game, my best lesson learned is, if your gut tells you something is off, go with it, chances are its a scam. They will lie about age, stats etc.

Just like age shaving.

Why put up ONE fake photo???????

Shaving his age is possible.
He fuzzed out the face photo. Personally disappointed with the experience. I learned to always follow my instinct. Should have never met in the first place

Shaving his age is possible.
He fuzzed out the face photo. Personally disappointed with the experience. I learned to always follow my instinct. Should have never met in the first place

I've had a few sessions with Chris. He's a great guy and his sessions are a real mix of massage and sensuality. Give him a try!

OK, I was going to sit this one out, but I can't. I've seen him at Equinox Columbus Circle a few times and his gym etiquette is non-existent. He hangs out and sits on equipment while playing on his phone, not actually using the equipment....just using it as a lounge. He doesn't re-rack his weights....
If you approach him and ask him to move he'll smile and move, but there's no remorse and it doesn't click to him that he's being a dick. If his boyfriend wasn't 10 feet away and watching I'd be much more comfortable "educating" him
His body looks great in person but as far as I'm concerned he's a monster.

Was it good? Mind to pm me some details?

link for the guy you hired? hire again? thanks.

Do you have his actual link rentmen link .?

It's been a while and I can't remember his RM profile.