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UPDATE: After telling me not to text him back, I was trying to decide what I wanted to do, when he texted me back to give me an update on his schedule for Sunday. So I then texted him back and frankly told him that because of my lack of experience and general anxiety about hiring, his previous text made me feel chastised and uncomfortable. I explained my approach to hiring and my rationale of vetting before making an appointment versus making an appointment, vetting, and then canceling on a person. After an hour passes, he then calls me. I was running errands and driving at the time so couldn't take the call. During this whole time I was thinking maybe I'd been to quick to misinterpret, that I should give him the benefit of the doubt, and that I would book something with him if the call went okay.

 

Once I got home and could call, I did, and it went straight to VM. I asked him to text me a definitive time this evening when I could call so we didn't play phone tag back and forth. Heard nothing for the next 3 hours. Then I notice a message in my RM inbox, a message from the escort that said this:

 

"It's been a stressful week for me. I've had an obscene amount of guys message me one or two times and then I've messaged and called them back LOTS of times with absolutely no response. I had a guy make an appt with me and when I went to confirm our appt the day before he informed me that his flight got changed and he forget to tell me. Two guys were messaging me only to meet at that exact time...it makes me wonder what kind of drugs their on.

Since I called you and messaged you a bunch of times today with no response I blocked all six clients that weren't responding to my texts...it was giving me far too much stress. I couldn't deal with it. Was it unprofessional? Perhaps. But did it help me get rid of all of that stress? Absolutely.

My point is: I blocked your number. After I blocked your number your voicemail somehow still came through to my phone.

So if you still want to get together you will either have to message me here or directly through my email. If you don't want to meet anymore it's absolutely understandable.

I hope you're having a weekend that is far more relaxing that mine."

 

Now what am I supposed to do with that? This guy seems very high maintenance and not worth the trouble, and yet, part of me is still considering reaching out again. I mean, if I just want an orgasm, I can achieve that at home for free. The point (to me) of going through all this is to have some genuine human affection, a genuine interaction, even if it is only for a couple of hours. Thus...the reason I want to vet thoroughly. At this point, I'm wondering even if we did get together, whether there's too much baggage to even have a good time with this guy no matter how hot he is.

So at this point, I say you are 100% justified in not hiring him and that he's not for you. The only times an escort should vent to clients about other clients or business outside of your agreement is if you specifically ask him. I can appreciate that he gave you a true explanation of his behavior in the follow-up, but that's about it.

I would nonetheless be reticent to infer anything about somebody’s personality from a couple of anonymous forum posts. More importantly I disagree with your assertion that egocentricity is demonstrated by @boldyoungone because he wanted some information about the escort’s preferences. But maybe you have some expertise in psychologically profiling people online, in which case I will defer to your judgement.

So notice how in my posts I didn't knock on @boldyoungone's needs to have his questions answered. I'm disagreeing on his views on why he didn't get what he wanted in the first place. I suggested that if he confirmed a time, he would have gotten his answers. Reading is fundamental.

And yes, people can ascertain views on someone's personality by how they post their personal situations and how they handled it and also post how they felt about the situation, even it's online. It doesn't require expertise. Just a little comprehension.

I was just being sarcastic in response to your unnecessary judgement of a fellow forum member, based on the scantest evidence. It wasn't a serious argument.

This whole forum is based on judgements on opinion and escorts/clients. And believe it or not, you can tell a lot about a person on how they treat other people and how they handle situations that they don't like.

Next thing you'll be expecting your barista to serve you the coffee you order and not what (s)he feels like, or nothing at all. It's just you, you, you. Baristas have feelings too!

let's not divert into strawman arguments here. The details in hiring an escort =/= going to a bar/restaurant. Or buying a car.

Customer Service is essential in this business, yes, but let's not act like there isn't any weird stuff that happens during the hiring process that baristas and waiters have to deal with.

So I'm an egomaniac for wanting someone I'm paying hundreds of dollars an hour to take an interest in me? Okay, sure.

glad we can agree on something.

but seriously, back to my main point - if you figured out your schedule first and THEN asked "Hey, I have free time on Tuesday at 8PM and I'd like to see you for an hour. Can I ask you a few questions about what to expect during our appointment?" you would have gotten what you wanted.

LOL - I'm the least ego-driven you'll ever meet. You don't know me, so back up. I'd rather not cancel other obligations without knowing first if the escort if even going to be a match. You call it being dramatic. I call it being kind. Empathy is obviously in short supply these days. God knows it is on this forum.

I'm sorry, but I was under the impression that as a paying client...

 

why is it that escorts (at least the ones I've contacted) never seem at all interested in finding out what makes me tick and what I'm interested in? I'm the one who has to volunteer that information.

 

Isn't this supposed to be their business? Yet they make it seem like you're bothering them by trying to communicate! Seems like a lot of guys are in this business who don't really want to be.

Sure, there's certainly no ego or entitlement in those comments. What about showing empathy for the escort who just doesn't want to engage further with a client who doesn't even know he can book a time?

You made this post asking for people's opinions. I'm certainly being direct on our disagreement, but it's pretty obvious you been made up your mind about how you went about this situation, so why bother making this post in the first place?

If someone isn't willing to even invest a few minutes in you upfront, how generous a lover are they going to be when you finally meet? The session will be all about them. They've already demonstrated that they aren't client focused.

Over. Dramatic.

You're entitled to hire how you want to hire, but keeping your ego in check will help you have a better time in hiring escorts. The escort said something you didn't want to hear, but he did it in a very respectful manner. There's really not an issue with his tone. There really isn't. And in your original post you stated that you are a paying client. You're not. So let's keep the perspective in check.

The escort's time is just as valuable as yours. Why entertain a potential client who just said he doesn't even know if he has the time to set up an appointment? How about you see if you even have the time first and then ask him your questions?

I guarantee if you figured out your schedule first and THEN asked "Hey, I have free time on Tuesday at 8PM and I'd like to see you for an hour. Can I ask you a few questions about what to expect during our appointment?" you would have gotten what you wanted.

I have 2 escorts that I'm a regular with - one of them I've been seeing for 3 years now and I do one overnight a week. The other one I see for a multi-hour appointment once or twice a month. It guarantees that our time is well spent and I know what I'm getting into. The weird thing is that these guys are have girlfriends,etc which is can be a huge negative for many, but for me it keeps my brain and feelings in check with these 2 so I'm able to keep viewing these relationships as FWB then catching feelings.

I hire new guys if I'm traveling but it does get a little tiring having to do the research on here and the initial nervousness of seeing a new guy.

okay - but the client doesn't even know if he can meet up with the escort based on his schedule. This isn't a confirmed appointment.

If the client ends up having the time to see the escort, and then confirms a time - then I'm certain this escort would be happy to answer questions about compatibility. If the escort replies back and it's good to go, then no harm done/no time wasted. If the escort and client find that they are not compatible, then cancel the appointment.

If anything the client is wasting his time by not even being sure if he can meet up with the escort at all. You guys are being so overdramatic and nit-picky about this.

"Please limit messaging me until you are 100% sure you can meet. Otherwise we'll end up chatting a lot and never meeting. I hope you understand ;-)"

I really don't see how this message is offending a lot of you guys, but ok. You guys are making it seem the text is the equivalent of "fuck you, don't waste my time with your texts". It really isn't.

well the thing is - you're not a confirmed client. And you're not a paying client yet. The tone of the escort's message was actually very polite while being firm about his rules.

I'd say confirm the appointment if you are able to/want to and then ask him the questions. If he refuses to answer your questions after you confirm, then yeah that's off putting and I would take caution in seeing him. If he answers your questions, then I don't see anything wrong with what he's doing.

oh he's gay. lol. I saw Den once and I didn't have a bad experience (not a great one either) and he talked to me for a bit. definitely not straight.

The coldness is a mix of him being Eastern European/he knows he's very attractive so a lot of clients will give him a pass for mediocre service. He does have an amazing body (one of the better ones I've seen) and he knows it.

https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/stan.shtml

No reviews, couldn't find anything in search. anyone have any experience with this guy?

There's actually a lot of profiles that allude to it. I've seen plenty of escorts say that they do personal training on their ads, but it's all about boundaries. I think the main worry is that escorts who PT think clients will want to flirt/mess around in the gym rather than actually train.

https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/sweetmasseur.shtml

Phillip is the best. He was in DC for a few days last year and I saw him every day.

I stopped trying to do privates with Adonis dancers. Especially the regular NY ones - the dancers tend to be a lot more shadier than the LA guys in terms of privates. There's one dancer in NY that was my favorite - we did a lot in those semi-private crappy booths in Fairytale but when it came to privates he did a total 180 on what was agreed upon. It was weird.

He answered my text once and he immediately asked for a face pic. I'm assuming he's either picky about his clients or he only escorts when he needs it. He's pretty easy to find on social media.

I texted him a few months ago about his MF ad (his RM ad is gone it seems - but I remember a flag was that he PNPs) and I asked him about what to expect and he just texted back "depends on if I find you attractive or not" - which I appreciate the honesty. Some mine not.

https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/sweetmasseur.shtml

Philip did a great job when he was traveling in DC. He did a great erotic massage (don't think he's licensed but he did a great therapeutic massage in the beginning and then slowly transitioned into fun).

I made my appointment with him the first night he's in DC. He's been quite nice over text with my questions and gives full service in terms of escorting (no bottoming though). I'll report back after I see him.

I see these "who was your best?" posts.

 

And i can remember some.

 

But really, it leaves me trying to run through my memories, wishing that i had kept some kind of list of all the hires. No major details, no contact info, just "oh yeah, that was the slender...." or "<sigh> the one & only time in my life a guy fell asleep during the act...."

 

Different bests for different reasons. Sadly, some of the bests werent bests again on repeat visits.

I think it's best that I didn't keep some record. This past year my hiring has been very infrequent since I stopped traveling so often for work and now my tastes have been trying to find 1 escort to stick to rather that hire around, but over the past 7 years or so I'd be scared but curious to see how many people I did hire. I honestly don't remember most of them.

Kerry Slate

Myrtle Tony

Nick Sterling

Alec Andrews (now retired)

Seven Dixon (only advertised for like a month and disappeared, but such a great time)

Craig Reynolds (only escorted for a brief time in SF)

CR was the first person I spent an overnight with (and then ultimately the entire weekend) and had a blast. Kerry Slate was the best guy I've ever been with.

He may be on break or officially retired. When I saw him in Pittsburgh he told me he was only escorting temporarily to save up to a certain point - he may have hit what he wanted and got out for now.

Stas is really hard to meet with if you have a specific time frame. He could only see me really late at night or in the morning when I was in town. He also has a weird haircut now (he shaved his hair in stripes) so keep that in mind if that bothers you.

He has good feedback on muscle service forums - he's full interactive but the only thing there's a bit of a language barrier since his first language is French.

I'm thinking of doing a trip up to Canada myself - the USD vs CAD exchange rate makes things a great deal.