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I used to see Pan as well. He hasn’t updated his pics since about 1893, so I don’t know what he looks like anymore. He was sure beautiful though. I recall his massage being decidedly okay but not on a par with what I was discussing.

I don’t mind at all. It suggests to me that he might be horny and willing, and that the extras might be extra fun. At minimum, if he’s trying to drum up business he’s unlikely to be overworked and worn out when we meet.

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I’m in the SF Bay Area. I thought enough providers and clients travel we might want to know about all areas. My tastes also run to “conventionally attractive.”

Is it a loss of face to say you can’t afford it right now? One way I’d consider approaching it is to say something like: “I love meeting with you and really enjoy our sessions. Paying for your time can be a stretch for me, so I only contact you when I feel I can comfortably afford it. I’ll have to pass right now but I hope to hit you up soon.” It tells him to back off but leaves the door open for when you are ready.

As a client and horndog, I use it only to cross reference to see if someone shows face there or claims certifications, etc. I haven’t hired anyone based solely on a MF ad in years.

This has likely been addressed before, so someone with better search skills than me (or who has memorized every thread) can share receipts and show me up. Anyway: I have experienced some really deep, therapeutic bodywork in my day. I’m talking physical therapy, deep muscle work, etc. I have also had some experiences where I was like, “Wow! That was fantastic. Was there a massage?” as I gargled in the bathroom afterwards. I can think of only a few instances where they happened with the same person at the same time. Do any of you have massage therapists you can recommend who excel in both genuine therapeutic bodywork and uninhibited fun? Feel free to DM me.

My experience has been similar. I have tried multiple times when he came through town but was never successful. I think part of it is he doesn’t always update his location, so he isn’t available when you try. However, I think he’s cute enough to keep trying. I hope he (eventually) proves worth the effort.

I care that he looks like his photos, he’s good and accommodating in the sack, and he’s enjoyable to have a conversation with.

I don’t get the love for Legrand Wolf. It’s not just that he is completely not my type. He’s a selfish lay. Sure he has a big dick, but some of the boys he does scenes with are really beautiful. He never sucks their dicks, eats theirs asses, or does any sort of foreplay. He just shoves his cock in. Hard pass.

My point was that we’re already paying them a lot. I personally don’t feel a need to give them more.

Yes and no. It’s not that I’m unwilling to pay $300 or more for a fuck. I’m just unwilling to pay that much to fuck someone so very average. I look at what’s on offer and how much they’re asking, and I’m floored. Sometimes I want to tell them to look in the mirror and answer the question again. But I don’t. I simply thank them and move on.

Here is a bit of back of the envelope math. It obviously oversimplifies everything to make the point. Most of the escorts ask for at least $300 for a 1-hr session. In things like consulting, the rate is generally based on a 2000 hour work year (50 40-hr weeks). At $300/hour you’re trending to $600k annually-so on par with partners in a successful law firm. Even an escort who sees one client a day, five days a week will gross $75k/yr. The US median income is around $62k, so a guy working one hour per day earns 20% more than that. Theoretically at least, doing massage is less taxing on one’s body than escorting. Assuming a masseur charges $200, that still averages out to a $400k salary. Assuming he sees 2 clients per day, that is $100k a year. So, no. I generally do not tip at these rates. If someone goes above and beyond and their rate is reasonable, I may round up. I may also give an occasional gift or help out in a crisis. Lastly, when I travel to other countries and meet gorgeous, friendly men who ask for a pittance, I will always give them a tip. Those few extra bucks mean nothing to me but will help them.

How funny. I was just looking to see if there was anything on him before starting a new thread. He was absolutely adorable. Very nice, sweet, outgoing young man from Mexico. He chatted before our meeting, which gave a strong feeling of connection. He was a very willing bottom with a surprisingly fat uncut cock. I am counting the days until he comes back through town. Two thumbs up. DM me if you need more info.

I have met him several times. Sweet guy, looks just like his pics, completely smooth and not an ounce of fat on him. He is definitely not 24 as advertised, but who cares.

He has been around for a long time. He used to also escort, but I haven’t seen any ads for a couple of years (maybe since Covid?). I never met him, so I can say nothing about his services.

I met him a while back when he was living in SF. I think he has done some porn. He was a bit scruffy for my normal taste, but he was definitely hot and I recall that he was a lot of fun. The massage was decent, if I remember correctly, and he was open to some fun. I would definitely see him again if I were in the mood for his type.

Adorable. Handsome, buff AF, super sweet, very willing and experienced bottom. I highly recommend him.

I did not meet with him, but I did have a rather unpleasant exchange with him when enquiring about a meetup. From my experience at least, he is another in the long line of really rude, bitchy bottoms. Bullet dodged.

I met him a couple of years ago for a “massage” appointment. He was exactly like his photos, with big slabs of muscle, big solid butt, and massive piece of meat. As I recall, he rubbed it all over me and let me briefly taste his cock, but anything else was going to require an upgrade to escort pricing ($400), which I wasn’t prepared to do. Now a few years later I’m reconsidering. His ads say he’s versatile and kisses. Does anyone have personal experience of that? I think I might clean out my bank account if I can suck on his tongue while pumping my load into him. Still not worth it to me otherwise.

There are plenty of “masseurs” who advertise on RM without offering full sex. Many state “Ask Me” as the position and don’t include anal in the things they’re into. Discreetly state in your text that you don’t fuck (however you want to say it) but do put what you’re willing to do (blow, kiss, rim) down below. I won’t generally hire an escort who won’t get fucked, but sometimes eating out a beautiful ass is more than enough. Give your future clients enough to make an informed decision. PS: that holds true for all service providers. If you’re tired of “time wasters,” give enough information so we can weed ourselves out.

Apparently he’s a constant name changer. I have been in contact with him a couple of times but it never worked out to meet. He has always been responsive and quick to reply. I’ll eventually find out if he’s as pretty IRL as his pics. https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/153740-bladimirrr-west-hollywood/#comment-2333438

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Can you name names on your shitty experience?

I’m surprised I haven’t found anything about this guy here. I first came across his ads 10 or so years ago using these exact photos. The esthetic says they were taken at least 10 years before that–if not 20. I actually contacted him once and asked why he doesn’t update. He replied, saying he believes they’re an accurate representation of how he looks. (Really? Your hairline was receding then. It hasn’t changed since?) Needless to say, I never met him; it was really just morbid interest. He continues to advertise on secondary sites. So, fair warning. He may be perfectly nice but he’s no longer the guy in his pictures. I’m curious to know if anyone has actually tried him. https://www.mintboys.com/male-escorts/san-francisco/5a5c1f272b0bd7777cae8112