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Bo Benton reacted to SecretProvider in What went wrong?
Because I have time today, The red flags listed:
- I'm new. (for reasons mentioned above)
- creating a new profile to reach out. (this is often done by spam bots who create new accounts daily, or seasoned tire kickers who know if we see how old/visit the profile they have had means they wouldn't be messaging this way if they were genuine.)
-Not answering the very simple yet important question, which had to be asked THREE TIMES - what do you want to do? What do you get into? What do you like to do when it comes to gay sex? (could be answered in a non-explicit way, although to be fair I despise when people answer with 'i'm looking to have fun' because what the hell does that mean) For me this was the biggest red flag.
- asking questions that are already answered on his profile no1 - (do you do bb) listed on our profiles as safe only/ask me/anything goes. Maybe this provider had 'ask me' as his answer but the following two points would suggest that is not the case.
- asking questions that are already answered on his profile no2 - (are you neg) If he has taken the time to set up a new profile to reach out, why wouldn't he have read the providers stats? He was elongating the conversation for interaction.
- asking questions that are already answered on his profile no3 - asking the provider what THEY are into (this a common theme for the tire kickers trying to elicit free conversation of sexual nature. You tell us what YOU like, what we 'like' other than getting paid is irrelevant and the truthful answer is probably not fucking you)
- asking sexual questions with obvious answers - do you like to breed. (find me one top who would say 'no i hate it')
- He asked about traveling and hosting, despite later saying he only wanted to travel. Why would he ask about both if he only wanted one. If he wanted the provider to host he would have said "i am looking for someone to host, where are you located?' (example of elongating conversation instead of making a booking)
- "and other services?" This is a classic way to get conversation instead of booking. Real client would say 'i saw you list available for videos, can i ask what you allow?" or " i would be really interested in filming some of our encounter, is that included in a session?" these questions would provide an answer, but that is not what he wanted - he wanted to explore conversations ABOUT making videos, rather than meeting and actually doing it.
I hope this illustrates more about how the language of his texts were trying to get a conversation rather than firm down a booking. Does only one of these things mean automatic red flag block and ignore? Of course not. But the sum is greater than the parts, and after a while you start to be able to spot them easier.
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Bo Benton reacted to SecretProvider in What went wrong?
As I mentioned in my post - it is a regular occurrence that 'clients' message and say 'hey this is my first time reaching out' and then we discover evidence to the contrary. It was the first time-waster red-flag in his messages. Does it automatically mean he is lying? No. But more often than not it is fanciful and makes us proceed with caution. (re-read my post for examples of how we know this)
You don't see any indication because you are a customer and not a worker. You have seen this message once, we see them daily all the time. We are professionals. A builder can spot defects on a wall much quicker than an untrained eye.
Trust me, there are many that simply looking at his pics while getting to text him and have him text back and just imagine what they could be doing together is sufficient - and best of all: FREE. As someone who actually has experience and knowledge in these types interactions DAILY, there were things that raise red flags that you wouldn't see but we do.
Yes you are right the provider COULD have sounded more excited "Oh I LOVE FLEXING MY PECS' 'YOU CREATED THE PROFILE TO MESSAGE ME? WHAT A COMPLIMENT' and the result would have been the same - except the "client" would have continued to ask him about underwear and flexing his pecs, maybe asking for more pics of it (im sure that was his next step) then jerked off to completion and the provider would have spent that energy unpaid.
Every other person here on this thread who DOES hire has said they would reach out in a different way. Because they are not tire kickers.
And Hanlons Razor? I would have agreed with this when I was a newbie. But these people are not stupid, they are very very smart. They know exactly what they are doing.
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Bo Benton reacted to + FrankR in If the outcall rate is steep, don't bother!
The point is economics. Have you considered that your expectations about free or cheap travel time may not be reasonable? And the cost involved in travel is higher than you think. Do the math. Or just keep complaining about it. Whatever makes you happy.
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Bo Benton reacted to + PhileasFogg in *When a regular provider stops trying… what do you do?
I don’t want to put words in @Braziliancutee’s mouth, but it sounds like he’s saying “we reap what we sow”
Many clients treat their companions like property with no mutuality. Like the tense want - but with distance - relationship between Tanya and Portia in White Lotus. Let’s not assume we will get tenderness when we offer harshness.
This may of course have nothing to do with the OP…but we shouldn’t assume the provider is alone in creating the mood.
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Bo Benton reacted to Braziliancutee in *When a regular provider stops trying… what do you do?
Offer him some support. Be open to giving him a bit of money (around 200) without expecting anything in return. Spoil him a little, everyone enjoys feeling taken care of. All the clients want something from us and it’s nice when someone just spoil us and ask nothing in return.
is not all about money but unfortunately we just know when some client really care with us when they offer help and expect nothing in return.
Or maybe not money, send some food or some gift for him. Even a small thing.
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Bo Benton reacted to Rudynate in Escorts that use RentMen. Ever search for clients?
I like it when escorts say hello on RM.
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Bo Benton reacted to DWnyc in RentMen Membership
No disrespect meant - and we’re kind of all in the same boat - but is it really a “conquest” if the interaction is obtained this way?
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Bo Benton reacted to bimuscle in Not every escort is the same!
I have made this statement on here before. Escorts need to be treated with respect. They are not just a piece of meat you are buying for your use. I am sure that I will get some very nasty statements on what I am about to say.
Yes. There are some very bad escorts. Some are Thieves, liars, morally corrupt. Some come into this business that way. Others become that way. Because of the lifestyle and us. Alcohol and drug use is rampant by them and us..
Been reading the thread about Peachy. Gay baiter, gay or bi, his association with Austin Wolfe. Does he actually have sex with guys? Does it really matter. I would say that he is a prime example of a product that has been shaped by us. And there are plenty of other examples.
What i am trying to express to all of us. . That we are reaping the pats we have sowed.
I am as guilty as anyone on here. I have done things. Used my money. To get what i want. I cannot judge anyone.
I would just express this! Either every single one of us, changes our ways. Or this downward spiral the escort industry is going through will continue. Use to be, I could go through the ads and see lots of guys. That i would be interested in. Now I am lucky if I find one or two.