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Probably due to my ignorance, m very surprised by hotel prices there. Almost all the rcmndd r $300 + )-:

Any recommended hotels that dont care about visitors? Would it help if I reserve double occupancy?

Thnk u VERY much; quite enlightening. I had read that guys there prefer pesos to dollars; guess it's not always so. M pestering with money questions, bcs OOH - I dont want to b disrespectful offering too little, OTOH - dont want to b taken advantage of as an ignorant newbie. Seems like u were tipping $3-4 (60 pesos) every 5 minutes. Does it matter if its musclelworshipping or erection playing or sucking? VERY useful tip to negotiate b4 going private. Whats the rates there for body cntct, sucking, etc? Does it matter con/sin leche ?

Meaning, u speak spanish or he speaks english... ?

Thank u, Vegas. Pinata charges $300+ per night.

As a newbie, I just noted there r 3 dfrnt threads on PV. Having done my due diligence reading thru all of them, I have some questions: 1 - r the guys endowed brazil or DR size? 2 - beyond the set rates for private dances, there's a lot of tipping for the shows or for sitting, but scarce mention of sums. How much is a tip for a guy doing his rounds after a pole or a shower ? 3 - msclwrspr sat 2.5 hours with two hunks together or alternating. How much do I tip for such LT personal attention? How much for 10 minutes sucking? 4 - any recommended hotels in the vicinity? Thnk u one and all for posting reporting sharing (-:

Thank u, Vegas!!! So, on average u paid 20 usd every 7 minutes; which is half of the going rate for a private dance in the US. How much is a private dance in 69 ? All activities-rates (kiss, suck, cum) should b explicitly negotiated in details beforehand ? I undrstnd all these guys r not-sucking straights, but they have no prblm realy kissing? Assuming I'll want to play around for an hour, it seems I'll b leaving there 200 usd - drinks, tips, larger payments..... ?

For us newbies, could all you experienced guys be more graphic and detailed regarding activities and rates? For example: Vegas, who had "non-private fun on the couch with a dancer on his lap" - what does that mean? Mutual groping? Kissing? Dicks outside? Sucking? How much money per time/activity? One of the posters mentioned a respectful dancer wiping his cum off the patron's lips. Is that a private dance? Is it like montreal - every dance 2 minutes / 20 dollars, with activity escalation? Newbies would be grateful for clarifications...(-:

So most of the pics r from non-professionals, who either dont care or have been careless..... ?

If I'm in the wrong forum, pls direct me to the right one. All the GREAT nude erotic porn photos in the "members only" gallery - where do the come from? R they cut from porn vids, or r they published on the net by the proud exhibitionist hunks starring in them? R there SOOO many guys who dont care that the whole world knows about them (fortunately for us)..... ?

Some of u might rmmbr: circa 20 years ago a high NY official was caught paying a female escort $5000 an hour. A wise man wrote in the Washington Post: he paid that sum not bcs the sex was worth it, but bcs he wanted to feel like a man who can pay such sums. That's what I think about these "outrages" transactions.

Thx for the warning

Please LostUpstate, I've failed in my previous attempts to undrstnd what actually goes on in BB meetings. Could u please elaborate here or in a PM. Thx (-:

Isnt there a private board here for mmbrs only?

The indexing regulation should start with a rule: from where exactly in the base should IT b measured.

What r the differences, if there r, btw monstercock, huge dicks and hung? This is the division in the "gallery", and I dont see any difference. They r all equally mouth watering. Is there some cm scale?

I mean: its all free now, so how does the industry survive? What m I missing?

Visited Steamworks SF a month ago. Same setup. It's not really a GH, but a suck ramp. The 'holes' are actually big and wide frames or windows within a very open 'fence'. Everyone can see all the suckers and all the suckees all the time. Found this VERY sexy. Unfortunately, despite many silent men walking around zombi-like with poker faces, very few availed themselves of this facility.

Thank u, one and all.

Hi, I have a 40 yo very attractive friend, who is into oldies. Would this event, specifically in that location, b a good hunting ground for him? Is 40 too old for local oldies into youngsters? Any tips on how to proceed wld b appreciated. Thx (-:

I visited today SteamWorks Berkeley. If Blow Buddies was about bj, the suck ramp in SW might b an alternative.

Any recent experience, pro/con? I plan to b there thursday & saturday 4 - 7 pm. Good times or waste thereof?

Dont know how the staff could b on you; I didnt see any way they could monitor. OTOH, the dancer did seem to b looking around when and after he whipped his dick out.

Big Guy, I mentioned it....

Since my only point of personal reference is Montreal (Stock & Campus), the best way to caption the experience is: totally different. Thursday, 22:30. No cover charge. Later I saw some entering patrons doing something with a slouched 'doorman'; dont know what about. Drinks cheaper than in Mntrl. Biggest difference: there's no stage, and there was NO dancing. There r 2-3 small 'stages' for 1 or 2 dancers to stand upon. They were vacant most of the time I was there. When I entered there were about 15 dancers, more than patrons. By midnight when I left, there were about 40 patrons - most of them young. The dancers were all in tight bulging undies, some of them constantly fluffing their dicks. Most of the dancers were buff chubby budybuilders, not my type at all. Many of the others were actually overweight with a belly, which I find unappealing. There were only 2-3 dancers who were lean, one of them spent the whole time smooching with a very obese old patron (obviously prior acquaintances). 4 dancers came up to introduce themselves and politely solicit. We shortly chatted the usual, and I said "maybe later". None returned. After an hour I set my eyes on the sexiest lean guy; I thought he was Afro, but he turned out to b Cuban. I dont know why he (and most of the others) didnt solicit me, so I actively reached out to him at the partially open space at the back for smoking. He was polite, even effectionate, and despite the circumstances - smelled great. Another two differences relative to Mntreal. One, a $20 dance 'per song' isnt 3 minutes but 5. That's what he said and did. Two, the whole lap dancing 'area' is actually the size of maybe 2 standard cubicles. Right and left wings were occupied as we entered, so I sat in the middle. We werent crowded and didnt disturb other couples (who didnt notice us), but there's no way it's possible to have 4 couples simultaneously. However, I was sitting for more than an hour near the enterance to that area; didnt see any waiting cue. 'My' cuban was VERY good at his job, better than the 3 dancers I enjoyed in Mntrl. I was allowed to touch him all over; actually he was encouraging it. I asked if I could suck him; he said he charges $40 for that; and I went for it. He had a big dick, but didnt get hard. Had a great time with him. Gave him 60, meaning 40 for dance + suck and 20 bonus. Thinking back on it, he might have meant that 40 is for the suck on top of the standard 20. Guess I'll never know. We parted very amicably. I prefer the Mntrl style, with dancers in rotation on the stage. Just sitting and looking at other guys just sitting and looking is boring, all the more so when u r alone.