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Montreal isnt dead. Stock and Campus r very much alive, as I had reported. I gather from old timers that relative to back then, the village is dead or dying. However, these 2 strip bars r delivering.

Daddy's Corner at Campus doesn't seem to work. It opens at 3 pm; I went at 6, hoping that later means more. The "corner" is a smaller bar, to the right of the stage and the main bar. There were 5 patrons sitting with their drinks: 3 solitary, 2 talking with a shirtless dancer. The barman was also shirtless. Per my question, one of the patrons repeated the concept on the website, but added that nothing is going on and left. I then talked with the barman. He said they intend to put in a curtain to make the space more intimate (smart). When I asked about dancers, he explained that 2 others were going in and out on errands, because "things were slow". Since the only dancer there didn't appeal to me, after 5 minutes I left. Newbie that I m, I humbly submit this concept probably won't work. Dancers won't come for 5-10 patrons instead of 50. Patrons won't come if there r only 1-3 dancers to choose from. Without the show in the background, u can come, sit with a drink for 10 minutes, take the only dancer for 2-3 lap dances, and then return to a rather "too tranquil" (the leaving patron defined it) setting. Hope to read future accounts that would prove me wrong. (-:

Sunday night 21:00 show hasn't started yet, so I came back at 23:00. Circa 45 people, 25% women. Most things very similar to Stock, but the space is wide and less deep, so more patrons get a closer view of the stage. Given the attendance, I don't understand why Stock isn't open too. One of the patrons told me that the previous night the place was packed, so it would seem - contrary to what I've read here - that Campus isn't underperforming relative to Stock. The dancers' build was more stocky, which I don't like. Only 2 were to my taste. I ended up going to a LD with A, the slimmest one and the only one who came up to chat with me. Unlike the curtained Stock cubicles, here they r open. Only one was occupied. I asked him to count the songs for me, and A was very professional and polite about it. First time I'm sure I got the full time. During the 1st song he started unbuckling me. I reciprocated, but he slowed me down until the 2nd song. When I brushed my face on his btm, he warned me not to rim him. Everything was said and done very politely friendly. When I told him I'd like to suck, he said he charges $250 for that. M proud of myself that I succeeded to refrain from laughing out loud. Since his cock wasn't big, I didn't bother to negotiate. On the whole, another pleasant experience.

M not sure, bcs I immediately made it clear that I won't b paying 100, let alone 200..

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Saturday 21:45 - Taboo: 95% women. As I entered the host was introducing a line up of 3 dancers, encouraging the ladies to entice them with bills. Rather than dancing, the 3 immediately worked the ladies seats collecting bills. I left after 2 minutes. 21:55 - Expose: No one on stage. 5 dancers sitting around, mostly with their phones. One, a bit effiminate, tried to engage me. Only 2 patrons, who left after a couple of minutes. I bought a drink, sat for 10 boring minutes, and left. A new patron walked in. Both places - no entrance fee. 22:20 - Stock: Entered with my free coupon. 60 people, few women. Later on, almost together, 2 groups of 6 bachelorette ladies took over the 2 wings of the stage. By then the place was packed. Same show and guys as on Thursday. Again only 3 flashed their cocks: Jovani only at the far back of the stage; Santiago was also jerking himself while working on the pole. That and his energetic moves made him the audience favorite. Again there were very few mingling with patrons and going for a LapDance. I don't understand that, when I remember all the reports here about 'stars' being snatched after dancing, or busy LD cubicles. Maybe patrons get hornier after midnight..... ? I picked a guy who solicited me on Thursday. [BTW, I saw him in Taboo earlier, and he raced over to Stock a couple of minutes after I had left there.] I didnt understand why he led me to the farthest cubicle, and then he said something like: "No dances. With me, 2 options: wild - $100, and very wild - $200. I will make u cum." He was all over me, while I negotiated him down to "wild and cum" for $70, time of 3 songs. Wouldn't let me suck him. He stripped asked permission to unzip me, and we played with each other per agreement. VERY nice surprise! After seeing the guys at the 2 other bars, I understood I had been mistaken in my first report. Undoubtedly the guys in Stock r not just "next door" types. Stock isn't open Sunday - Tuesday, so tonight I'll go to Campus.

Per my other thread, I totally agree. Ear plugs help a little...

Azdr, it's not a matter of policy. I asked 'my' dancer why he was almost the only one; "everyone does what he is comfortable with". I was surprised that apparently I was the only one motivated by his hard-on to hire him.

When I arrived there Thursday 20:50, there were 4 patrons. When I left at 23:15 - circa 50, about a third women. [They weren't grouped, shouting, or getting too much attention by the dancers.] The program started just as I arrived. The first dancer was in undies, but afterwards all were fully clothed gradually removing the shirt. About 13 dancers. At the second round everyone was in underwear. There was no hard-on round, unless it started after I had left. Only one dancer appeared on stage proudly sporting an impressive erection. Two others exhibited full nudity, but no hardons. Dancers circulated among patrons. 4 introduced themselves to me: 3 were nicely soliciting; one was cheeky and assertive. I enjoyed the eye candy and the athletic ability on the pole, but didnt find the 'dances' arousing. The moves were repetitive; nothing creative or un-amateurish. One real bodybuilder (Jackson), 3 tall hunks, one twink, the rest athletic guys next door. There was very little lapdancing going on backstage. When I finally got there, we were the only couple. I chose the hard-on guy, also because of his looks. Per my question as we were walking in, he said he takes his undies off at the second song and I could touch his dick. I enjoyed losing my lapdance virginity (I became fully aroused), though it was obvious he preferred his own hands on his dick rather than mine. I asked if I could suck; "no, just kiss the balls"; so I stopped at 2 dances. I don't think we really spent there full 6 minutes, but I wasn't clock watching. Added $5 as a tip. [M not sure it's ok to post his name here.] $6 entrance, same for my Sprite. The usual VERY loud music; used my earplugs. As I collected my coat at the reception, I chatted with the receptionist. For some reason he decided to give me a free entrance coupon for the next time, explaining that I'm a nice person (my mom would agree). I stopped for a minute at Campus. Was told that Daddy's Corner was already operating afternoons, but due to the loud music - couldn't understand if there was anything differentiating it from usual going-ons (other than the hours). Will b back on Saturday night.

Almost all countries scrutanize those deemed to b prospective violaters. Statistics show they usually come NOT from rich countries, and r NOT beyond working age.

I noticed there was a lot of writing about visas and saving time, but I didn't pay attention; my travel agent had unfortunately told me there'd b no problem after pre-paying online for the visa. After landing and scanning my passport, I was directed to sit & wait in "immigration 1" room. They said that all non citizens and non permanent residents r required to do so. I waited for two hours with about 80 people, 95% of which seemed 'immigrational suspicious'. [I'm a 65 y/o white, and showed them my outbound flight ticket.] When my turn came up, I was asked the same 3 quick questions asked around the globe, and waived thru. It took so much time because for the first 90 minutes only 1 booth was operational. The rest of the officers were mainly chatting among themselves, ignoring the waiting crowd. It was almost insulting. Besides venting my frustration, I'm really asking: why is Canada's system so obnoxious? I travel a lot; have never had such an ordeal, including in very bureaucratic or highly disorganized countries....

Apologize for the typo )-: Any rcmndations about optimal rather than ideal type? Maybe one rather than two way oral?

Personable Talented in both therapeutic and sensual Ending in two way oral Athletic but not bodybuilder Smooth, no beard Endowed and cut Does such an angle exist?

Thank u both!! So no reason to go on thursday night...? Thay's what I was planning )-:

Thank u both!! I certainly m NOT natural at this. The idea of cheat notes hadn't occured to me. Hmmm.....

Hi Guys, Could anyone please contribute any pros / cons about this venue? Which days and hours r best? Thx

Hi Guys, I read all relevant 2021-23 threads, towards my first visit there May 4-8. The majority favors Campus over Stock, with Taboo and Expose distant thirds (femboys and twinks). Did I get that right? Any news/details about Daddy's Corner? About the remodeled Stock? Read only about Thurs Fri Satur; r they all closed on Sundays? Not to show up before 9 pm, right? Will bring a lot of 20 CD. Is it also customary to tip for pre bar talking? Which bills do I need? Any additional etiquette tips would b greatly appreciated, including inviting me to PM u about specific dancers or discrete guidance. I prefer athletic or twunks, not bodybuilders. SIZE matters GREATLY. I promise detailed reports. Thx (-:

Poppie, I'll b there 1st weekend of May. Will that b before u ?

Thx Poppie for the link. Re Newatthis: it also doesnt mentions days of operation. Another novice question: beyond the schedule (afternoon rather than night), is there a real difference in the scene ambience interaction btw this new offer and the regular goings on ?

I'll b in Montreal for the first time in 2 weeks. I plan to visit Campus. What's Daddy's Corner?

Apologies Tassojunior. Re-read ur thursday post; u weren't referring to Montreal. So there aren't any places there offering more.....promiscuous action?

I'll b in Montreal next months. May I expect a BJ for $100, per Tassojunior's story? [I thought dancers dont give BJ, but rather get them.....] Any lesser activity for smaller tip?

Tassojunior, $20 per 4 mnts is 'only' 1.5K for 5 hours, and that's without a moment rest.....

"lost some of his size"..... ?

Dcsmlxl, Venues differ by what is and isnt done, in public and in private.