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I liked that very long story about a recent experience in a NY spa. I expected the last line to be, "And then I woke up from the best wet dream I've had in a long time."

I have had two masseurs come to my home, but I know their life styles and I know them, and I'm sure they don't take chances. I have another that I'd like to call, but I can't be sure where he's been the day before or the week before. It's a chance I won't take.

I have had two masseurs come to my home, but I know their life styles and I know them, and I'm sure they don't take chances. I have another that I'd like to call, but I can't be sure where he's been the day before or the week before. It's a chance I won't take.

I have had two masseurs come to my home, but I know their life styles and I know them, and I'm sure they don't take chances. I have another that I'd like to call, but I can't be sure where he's been the day before or the week before. It's a chance I won't take.

I can understand Oaktown's comments, but I don't understand what Otto means about the baby oil. Two of the best, and sexiest masseurs I know (RJ near Orlando, FL and Arjun here in NYC) use copious amounts of oil -- and know how to use it!
Why baby oil should signify that "the massage was going nowhere" is a mystery to me. Can you please explain?

I'll just add that masseurs in spas get 30% of what we pay. Our tips are important to them. On a $60 massage, I tip $40 if it was OK. If it was very good, I tip $60 .. And I don't consider myself all THAT generous.
"Private" masseurs are something else. Many don't tip, including me. Their stated price is it, and it's high enough. If some 21 year-old kid is just starting out, and charges $100, I'll usually give him $20 extra the first time.

How old is "older?" Utopia was my favorite spa, and Victor and Jerry were my favorite masseurs I'm reluctant to return to any of the spas yet. But I'm interested in your experience at Utopia. I hope to return in the near future.

6'4", 220, ripped -- and expensive! One would certainly be interested and tempted, but for that money, I'd want someone to take the plunge first -- like a food taster for those Roman emperors.

I'm pretty sure the video ("I want a baby from the client!") is part of a series, "Gay Massage House," available on DVD. (Icon Male.)
As I recall, the ones I've seen also have candles in the opening scene, and they're all about masseurs asked by psychiatrists to help the client to come out.
You can have a baby with the client I'll take the masseur!

If one has had COVID and survived, you are fortunate, but you can't assume long-term immunity. We just don't know enough about antibodies for this virus. As a non-physician, it seems to me that the disease may well have left you in a medically compromised position, and may INCREASE your susceptibility to a recurrence, rather than decrease it.
Have your lungs been damaged? Has your clotting mechanism been damaged? I have read that this may be a vascular disease, not a pulmonary disease.
There is SO much we don't know, and we should all be very careful, especially the elderly (I'm 82), those who may be taking immunosuppressive drugs, those with diabetes, asthma, and other diseases, and even those who have recovered from a recent coronavirus infection.

If one has had COVID and survived, you are fortunate, but you can't assume long-term immunity. We just don't know enough about antibodies for this virus. As a non-physician, it seems to me that the disease may well have left you in a medically compromised position, and may INCREASE your susceptibility to a recurrence, rather than decrease it.
Have your lungs been damaged? Has your clotting mechanism been damaged? I have read that this may be a vascular disease, not a pulmonary disease.
There is SO much we don't know, and we should all be very careful, especially the elderly (I'm 82), those who may be taking immunosuppressive drugs, those with diabetes, asthma, and other diseases, and even those who have recovered from a recent coronavirus infection.

If one has had COVID and survived, you are fortunate, but you can't assume long-term immunity. We just don't know enough about antibodies for this virus. As a non-physician, it seems to me that the disease may well have left you in a medically compromised position, and may INCREASE your susceptibility to a recurrence, rather than decrease it.
Have your lungs been damaged? Has your clotting mechanism been damaged? I have read that this may be a vascular disease, not a pulmonary disease.
There is SO much we don't know, and we should all be very careful, especially the elderly (I'm 82), those who may be taking immunosuppressive drugs, those with diabetes, asthma, and other diseases, and even those who have recovered from a recent coronavirus infection.

If this is the same Cam as before, I suggest you do a thorough search for all the comments on him. I think his ad said, "Cam can," or something like that. One post said that ought to be changed to "cannot." Might be a different guy,
but let the buyer beware.

If this is the same Cam as before, I suggest you do a thorough search for all the comments on him. I think his ad said, "Cam can," or something like that. One post said that ought to be changed to "cannot." Might be a different guy,
but let the buyer beware.

I assume that some people say January because they believe that a vaccine will be available by then. I think that's highly optimistic. I hope I'm wrong, though.

It's difficult for me to visualize enjoying a massage while wearing a mask, especially with my face in a cradle. I'm sure the spas do their best to wipe down surfaces and spray with disinfectant, but what do clients know about the last client in the room? What do clients know about their masseur? Did they spend last night in a crowd, without social distancing and without masks? Do they kiss their boy friend? (Or friends?)
I miss going to the theater, eating in restaurants, major league baseball, and massages, but the risk:reward ratio is not in my favor in a spa, sorry to say. Very sorry to say, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

I assume that some people say January because they believe that a vaccine will be available by then. I think that's highly optimistic. I hope I'm wrong, though.

I assume that some people say January because they believe that a vaccine will be available by then. I think that's highly optimistic. I hope I'm wrong, though.

There are several threads on this, and most of the comments are very sensible. I don't know your age or your health condition, but even if you are a 25 year-old stud in perfect health, you are vulnerable. Whatever your age, you are an adult. Act like one. There will be a vaccine, and it would be nice if you were around to receive it, and to resume getting massages, just like the rest of us.

It's difficult for me to visualize enjoying a massage while wearing a mask, especially with my face in a cradle. I'm sure the spas do their best to wipe down surfaces and spray with disinfectant, but what do clients know about the last client in the room? What do clients know about their masseur? Did they spend last night in a crowd, without social distancing and without masks? Do they kiss their boy friend? (Or friends?)
I miss going to the theater, eating in restaurants, major league baseball, and massages, but the risk:reward ratio is not in my favor in a spa, sorry to say. Very sorry to say, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

There are several threads on this, and most of the comments are very sensible. I don't know your age or your health condition, but even if you are a 25 year-old stud in perfect health, you are vulnerable. Whatever your age, you are an adult. Act like one. There will be a vaccine, and it would be nice if you were around to receive it, and to resume getting massages, just like the rest of us.

There are several threads on this, and most of the comments are very sensible. I don't know your age or your health condition, but even if you are a 25 year-old stud in perfect health, you are vulnerable. Whatever your age, you are an adult. Act like one. There will be a vaccine, and it would be nice if you were around to receive it, and to resume getting massages, just like the rest of us.

It's difficult for me to visualize enjoying a massage while wearing a mask, especially with my face in a cradle. I'm sure the spas do their best to wipe down surfaces and spray with disinfectant, but what do clients know about the last client in the room? What do clients know about their masseur? Did they spend last night in a crowd, without social distancing and without masks? Do they kiss their boy friend? (Or friends?)
I miss going to the theater, eating in restaurants, major league baseball, and massages, but the risk:reward ratio is not in my favor in a spa, sorry to say. Very sorry to say, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

It's difficult for me to visualize enjoying a massage while wearing a mask, especially with my face in a cradle. I'm sure the spas do their best to wipe down surfaces and spray with disinfectant, but what do clients know about the last client in the room? What do clients know about their masseur? Did they spend last night in a crowd, without social distancing and without masks? Do they kiss their boy friend? (Or friends?)
I miss going to the theater, eating in restaurants, major league baseball, and massages, but the risk:reward ratio is not in my favor in a spa, sorry to say. Very sorry to say, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

I believe that spas and massage parlors in NYC will reopen in Phase 3,which I assume will be in a few weeks.
 
I would expect an email from one of the spas where I was a regular, telling me that they're reopening -- if and when they do, which I hope they will. I was a customer on their last day, March 15, just before NYC was locked down. The owner told me that not only were clients reluctant to come in, but the masseurs didn't want to work, either.
 
I was taking a risk that day, and so was the masseur. I was fortunate that I wasn't infected, and I have to assume that I didn't transmit anything to him, either.
 
That's the problem with reopening. I'm absolutely certain that the owner will take every possible precaution regarding
health and safety, but I can never know where the masseur was last night. Was he partying in a crowd of people in a confined indoor space, where no one wore masks? Did he embrace anyone? Kiss him??
Likewise, they don't know where I've been, nor what I did last night. I could infect the whole place.
 
I recently had an October tour to California cancelled, and they said they hope to schedule it for next year, but it may depend on the availability of a vaccine. I mentioned this to a friend, and he said I would probably have to show proof of vaccination before they would let me on the tour. Maybe before I could get on a plane to California, too?
 
Welcome to the new normal.