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Oh, the Hungarian Ivan who used to advertise as IvanStud? That makes sense. He had mixed reviews because he seemed to send a lot of mixed signals. International man of mystery:rolleyes:, probably trying to clean the slate and reinvent with a new name/ad/pics.

 

Thx Navy

Not so sure your theory works here, although generally guys do that to reinvent themselves. I've had Ivan saved in my buddies list on RM for a long time, and although his name has changed, he remained in my list without me doing anything. I've noticed that when guys delete their ads and come back as a new persona, they don't remain in my buddy list.

I don't think the OP violated the escort's privacy, per se, (at least not affirmatively so) since he performed a rather simple online search that wasn't out of the ordinary. Had the OP hired a private investigator to dig up stuff, or rummaged through the escort's wallet while he wasn't looking, or something of that nature, then I think qualifies as actually invading someone's privacy. Blurting out the escort's name in a non-public setting when he doesn't know that you know his name, but where you haven't exposed or outed him, could be seen as a bit tacky or overstepping bounds, but I don't see what the OP did as violating the guy's privacy. It was a mistake, sure, but not nefarious.

I've learned the real name of my fave escort by accident, and he doesn't know that I know it, but I don't think that I violated his privacy. We had told each other our real first names on our first date because we had a good connection and, perhaps, chemistry. At an in-call in his apartment on maybe our second or third meeting, he went to use the restroom as I was getting dressed. During this time his cellphone buzzed and flashed because he presumably got a message or other type of alert. It got my attention and caused me to instinctively look in that direction, and what looked like his work ID was next to his phone. We were in his small studio apartment, so I was already standing next to the dresser on which the phone and ID were placed when I was getting dressed. In the second or two it took to glance towards the phone, I inadvertently saw his full name on the ID, which was photo and name side up. I've never told him this because I don't want to make him uncomfortable. But then again, I assume that he had felt comfortable enough with me (either consciously or unconsciously) not to take extra precautions to hide things of that nature.

Did I really violate my fave escort's privacy? If I mistakenly drop his full name in private conversation, is that then a violation of his privacy? I think it would definitely be an error to ever let him find out why I know in such a careless manner, and I could see why, absent an explanation, he would assume that I had violated his privacy in order to learn such information. But I don't think it would be fair or accurate to say that I had actually violated his privacy. I've thought about revealing this to him just in the interest of full honesty and openness between us, and to avoid potential future snafus, but I'm afraid that he might overreact or jump to the wrong conclusion. I'd be interested in hearing from the other escorts on this.

any chance you can provide links to both?

South African Eli

https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/eliblu.shtml

Middle Eastern Eli

https://m.adam4adam.com/?p=ELINOW. That's from the mobile site, since I'm on my cellphone. If the link doesn't work, his screen name is EliNow on Adam4Adam.

@lax8884, I saw Eli a few years back (2015, I think) in his escort capacity. He's well hung (though not monstrously huge), handsome, he was friendly, and he topped me well, although his studio leaves something to be desired. He used to advertise as providing both escort and massage services, but since the rentboy scandal, I've only ever seen him advertise his massage services on his profile.

I've been to Eli twice. He's as good and as large as other threads suggest. Any others?

Are you, @Jim_n_NYC, and @lax8884 talking about Eli the super handsome, but expensive South African masseur based in Hell's Kitchen, who's been well talked about on this forum, and who advertises on massuerfinder? Or do you mean the younger, also handsome Middle Eastern masseur who still does massages, and used to escort pre-rentboy, advertises on Adam4Adam, and is/was based on 14th Street near Union Square? I've seen the latter, and he is indeed well hung, and quite handsome, too.

He's pretty easy going about giving you the unlock code. I'm repeating myself but he's very handsome...

I concur. If you must see his face, @hornytwells, just request access. He was very agreeable, and made setting up an appointment quite easy.

My review will be forthcoming. But as a preview, I can say that @vaguyD certainly told the truth. Fun_Dude was, indeed, "pretty fucking amazing, in every way." I may have just found my NYC regular! *swoon*

Mike used to dance at the Adonis Lounge, where I met him. I never saw him outside of the lounge, but he was very kind and friendly. Plus, he was really handsome in person. I wish he was still around.

Strangely, the ad says that he last logged on in 2010. That might account for some of the age discrepancy.

Does anyone know anything about Ali, who works at Super Men's Spa? I'd never been there before, but I walked by there tonight to schedule some services for Friday night, including a 60-minute massage with Samet, who this thread has made out to be a very yummy masseur. But while there, I saw a strikingly handsome olive-skinned Mediterranean or Middle Eastern young man, with piercing dark brown almond-shaped eyes, dark hair and beard. I couldn't stop staring at him. I didn't have the courage to ask about the services he provides (not with him right there, in earshot) but I did catch his name tag. I don't think I'd want to replace Samet with Ali, but maybe I could get another separate treatment with Ali, too?

@tennisjock and @mikefl81 : I'm on the Adonis Lounge LA emailing list, and I noticed that he hasn't been featured in the weekly emails in quite some time. I've reached out to Tim, but no luck there on finding Kerry. Kerry went by "Nicky" at the Adonis Lounge, by the way. From others' reported experiences, it looks like Kerry has either quit the business, or has taken a hiatus. Oh well, it's a shame. Gotta strike while the iron's hot, I guess.

I believe this is his current M4rent ad http://m.men4rentnow.com/profile.cfm?CID=310415

Thanks so much for this. As an east coast guy, I'm so used to looking guys up on rent.men, that it didn't even occur to me to check out the Men4Rent site. Kerry's ad is current there, so he may have just chosen to switch advertising sites. He apparently prefers contact by email, so I emailed him through that site and at the email address listed in his most recent Daddy's reviews. Hopefully I hear back from him.

Thank you to everyone who answered this thread and provided suggestions. I'll let you guys know how it goes if I meet Kerry.

To @BigRic and others:

Does anyone have the contact info for @Kerryslate ? (www.rent.men/kerryslate) I'll be in LA this weekend for the first time in 2017, and I'd really like to meet him. One of my biggest regrets from my 2016 trip to LA is that I couldn't get to see him, and now I see that his ad is expired, so I can't get his current contact info, and it looks like he hasn't logged into the forum since December. Earlier today I texted the number listed in one of Kerry's earlier reviews, but no response thus far. It looks like Kerry may have quietly retired, but I'm hopeful that, like many working guys, he's still active but has just let his ad temporarily lapse. I'd very much appreciate help from the forum members in getting in touch with Kerry. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to read this and reach out. :-*

Absolutely fantastic legit. massage. He is totally cool with no draping and has no hangups about touching just about every bit of your body. But don't expect HE or mutual touch. That is really not going to happen.

 

It is a very fair price for the service received. It is a bit difficult to book as he only takes evening/night or weekend appointments and is busy due to skill and reasonable fee.

I saw Mark maybe 2 years ago, and I fully agree with this assessment. He's a very nice guy, gives a good massage and, as noted by @Dmitri , he's crazy handsome. But he offers a completely non-sexual massage. That's what I was looking for at the time, so it was fine for me, but if a client wants some sexual play mixed in with his massage (or a sexual experience under the guise of a massage service), then Mark is not the masseur for him.

Ditto on Anthony or Clark.

Can you or @workingoutnow provide a link for both or either of these masseurs? I'll be in LA in 2 weeks, and would appreciate the info. Thanks.

This may or may not help explain the use of N/A for in- and outcalls. Sean Xavier (many on this board will know him) did the same thing in his ad. When I asked him why he did that he told me that there wasn't a way on RM to advertise different rates for different cities. At the time Mr. Xavier was traveling and listed his travel cities in his ad. I believe the cities were L.A., San Francisco and Dallas. His West Coast rates were slightly higher than what he can charge in Dallas. He didn't want his Dallas clientele to think his rates had increased so he simply put N/A for in- and outcalls. That way West Coast clients and Dallas clients saw the same ad but were paying different rates. He admitted it was not the ideal situation and caused a lot of confusion but he did assure me he did both in and outcalls. Sadly, our schedules didn't mesh and I wasn't able to book.

 

I don't pretend to understand the ins and outs of the RM website but I have heard from other escorts that it can limiting and difficult to use sometimes.

I understand an escorts desire to maintain flexibility in setting different rates for different locations. But choosing "N/A" (which most would interpret as "not available" or "not applicable") seems rather silly, and conveys the opposite message. We all know that the site has an "Ask Me" option, so why wouldn't he just choose that? At least that doesn't tell prospective clients that the option they may be seeking isn't off the table.

Is this 'Pierre' from Montreal? He looks awfully similar. If he is, I understand/agree with the filthy apartment comment above. He gave me the crabs many years ago when he was visiting New York. Not nice!

Pretty sure they're talking about someone entirely different.

If this post was directed towards me I have absolutely no issue with his "reticence" to share his status with strangers or anyone. My post was directed at guys who ask someone's status, have faith that the reply they get is truthful or accurate, then potentially change their behavior based on the word of a stranger. Lumberjack hits all my buttons in terms of guys I'm attracted to. His status (or any potential hire's status) is not a factor in my decision. My question was directed to guys for whom status is a factor.

Sorry for the confusion. I quoted your post to express my agreement with your response to the poster whose concern seemed misplaced. I should have been more clear about whom I was critiquing.

What does his status matter? Why would you trust his reply (or anyone else's reply)? How would knowing his "status" affect your decision to hire him and what you would do with him? Results are only as good as the instant the sample was taken. Assuming you believe him if he says he's negative (although I don't know went you would) then what? I just assume everyone is positive and act accordingly. I know that's becoming an archaic attitude but it's been working for me for over 30 years.

Lumberjack has also advertised a strict "no bareback" policy for quite some time. Since he takes extra precautions like that, it seems strange to me that his reticence to share his medical status with strangers should concern this poster so much.

This thread has been viewed some 59X's since I posted it, but no one has simply typed a yes or no or a brief message. Come on guys, please respond so that I can report back to my Brit friend. He asked me to ask you since he knows that I have read and have posted a lot since coming here in the latter 90s.

Sorry, but like most of the non-responsive viewers of your original post, I don't have any recent information to offer you or your friend. I last visited Madrid, and that sauna in the mid-00's. I imagine neither of you had any luck with a simple Google search. Have you tried posting this inquiry in the other forum?

It doesn't matter anyway since he's so hot. Right?

Agreed. What does matter is that ridiculously high $400/hour rate, particularly for an unproven newbie. Hell no! Girl, that's a car payment!

No, we all got that email, which in your above post correctly says he was marketed as SOUTH AFRICAN. In your same above post you say he is really Australian.

You're partially correct. I never said Jed was "really Australian," although I said he "has a sexy Australian accent." I was clearly relying on Tim's email, which said that Jed was from South Africa, but had picked up an Australian accent. I never asked Jed about his accent or nationality; I simply accepted the truth of the email when I described Jed's accent as both sexy and Australian. I have no clue as to what type of accent Jed really has, or where he's really from. That not what I focus on when a gorgeous man is giving me an erotic lap dance. I also can't tell accents apart (Kiwi vs Australian, various West Indian accents, various Eastern European accents, etc.), so I'm never in a position to judge for myself if someone's being truthful about their accent. Interesting academic discussion, though.

As further food for thought, there was, supposedly, an actual Australian dancer at the Adonis pop-up party last weekend. He went by the name of Josh. Now, of course I don't actually know for sure this gentleman's nationality, either. But I asked him, and he told me he is Australian. That being said, it's been my experience that dancers are not always truthful about lots of things clients ask them about, such as their name, age, sexual orientation, relationship status, where they're from, what they do (besides dancing), etc.

Did he SAY he was Australian? Because ENGLISH South Africans sound Australian to 95% of Americans, and ENGLISH South Africans more often than not lie and say they are Australian so people don't assume they are racist.

I don't know what Jed said, or didn't say, about his nationality. I said that the Adonis Lounge promoter marketed him as Australian. I didn't ask Jed about it, since it wasn't foremost on my mind, given the context of our meeting.

Maurice based on the novel by E.M. Forster. Great movie.

I loved this movie! I saw it on cable when I was a teen, and immediately fell in love with British actor Rupert Graves. He was also the straight, cis male love interest in the British queer movie "Different for Girls," about a formerly "gay"guy who, as an adult, transitioned to "straight" female and then reconnects with, and falls for, his former grade school friend. He's still a decent looking guy now, in his 50s, but the young Mr. Graves was quite the crushworthy foreign actor for this then-closeted queen.

I met Tony once, about a year and a half ago, and had a nice time. He was perfectly pleasant with me, even though I contacted him for a same-day appointment at his apartment, so I could have been intruding on his plans for his day. I found him to be really handsome, with a deep, sexy voice, and he really put in the work to try to give me a good experience. So, I've been surprised reading some of the negative comments on this thread.

I met Jed last week at the Adonis Lounge private event in NYC, and enjoyed a lap dance with him. I don't know what that one negative reviewer was thinking, because Jed looks exactly like his photos. He's large and ripped -- in excellent shape. I don't have any knowledge or experience as to Jed's escorting skills, but he was super hot and sexy as a stripper.

P.S. Jed also has a sexy Australian accent, although I think he was marketed by Adonis Lounge as being South African.