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I would be surprised if anyone who generally hires would be satisfied with joining an orgy. Afterall, if you are hiring, you and the client are one-on-one. But an orgy would definitely be a different experience. I know in the past at IML in Chicago over Memorial Day weekend providers do visit. Part of the visits may also be do with a porn award event called the Grabbys that takes place the same weekend, and also the Leather Market has many booths with providers in gear or featuring online site. Also at IML, there is frequently action in the bathrooms of the hotels, and plenty of private parties either in the hotel or offsite.

You are right as his ad has changed. His previous ad read something like experience the difference between being f* versus poked, but now he says no anal period. I recall he was once also on RentMasseur but now he is on MassageFinder only. In my opinion or advice, if I was in Palm Springs and interested in him, I would try the basic massage first to see if we had chemistry for more erotic/sexual action as I rather would be disappointed with a $120 massage (his current rate, which he seems to be changing as he offered neuromuscular massages at $200 but now that is gone from his list) rather than an obviously much higher rate for escort services.

I thought his ad said he was bi.

I think he is also does massages. I see a similar guy based on description on MasseurFinder (not RentMasseur). He changed his RentMen ad recently, but it mirrored his requirement for "PROOF OF LIFE", but it still has the "I DO NOT ACCEPT NO CALLER ID". See linkhttps://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/43442/

Sound like robberbaron4u is getting a kick-back. I'll pass!

Johnson's Instagram is promoting their 6-year anniversary on Thursday Aug 17 with special drinks and hors d'oeuvres during happy hour. I still think they will charge $5 after 8 pm.

Is this the same guy? StrongHandsOnU on RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com If so, therapeutic and sensual only...

Wonder if he is dancing at Johnsons's during his Ft Lauderdale visit...

I met him years ago in Montreal and his recent pictures look like from years ago. But he was a nice person. As I like muscle worship, he was fine for me. He told me that he grew up with Candian BB Antoine Vaillant. I guess he was hoping to hit it big on the BB scene and become a pro like Antoine, but that has not happened as of yet.

But he has more recent pictures of him older as well. I've seen quite a few do the same, such as VitalTouchMiami on RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com and ConnorMuscleMan - Pornstar Performer, Rentboy, Gay Massage in Tysons, VA | RentMen RENTMEN.EU Pornstar Performer & Rentboy in Tysons, VA - ConnorMuscleMan: Handsome Mature Bodybuilder Endowed Some may not change their age...the moral is that look at all of the pictures and the oldest looking one is probably the most current. I was considering VitalTouch Miami until I noticed he posted on where was obviously older (with gray hair) and not as attractive to me.

Are they any hustler bars anywhere now? I'm guessing that since just about everyone has a smartphone, and younger guys were raised with the Internet, and you can easily set up a social media account, it is probably easier to go the online way. I don't know if Only Fans and Just Fans charges, but it even seems some guys would rather make their money using those sites than even in-person services.

Not true in Ft Lauderdale with Johnsons, which is busy on Wed and Thursdays. Granted, not as busy as weekends, but still busy especially later in the evening. I would surmise that Montreal's clubs would be busy on Thursday especially in the summer.

I can't think of any time when a dancer bar would be even remotely busy in the late afternoon or very early evening except if there is a day event like the Pride march, a street fair, or maybe the Sunday T-dance. Even in Montreal's heyday or any other city with an active gay scene, I don't think bars would be hopping busy at that time. I would also think Montreal gets much more busy after US Memorial Day. Do they still close St Catherine street to auto traffic in the summer?

My response was not snarky. There are all types of bodybuilders by physical characteristics. For example, I am not fond of BBs with tattoos or with a lot of body hair (I also like older BBs more than younger ones). So linking a few from Rentmen in other cities would give someone an idea. But as I said, Johnsons has several BBs that perform, but they usually come in later in the evening and they are usually straight. Boardwalk also has at least one gay BB that occasionally listed on Rentmen as MonstaMike, but I was told that Boardwalk does not get busy until well after midnight.

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I'm not sure how you expect anyone to provide suggestions if you don't provide information or examples of what you like through Rentmen or another site link. Maybe you can consider going to Johnsons and checking out the dances, some of whom are also providers, although most are hetero.

I actually don't have an issue with providers saying that they don't do drugs. But a provider statement about naturally born men just comes across as negative or a turn-off given the current anti-trans environment going on today that borders on hysteria to me. Of course, I am not sure why this statement would be made, but I wonder how many transmen would be answering his ad anyway. It just reminds me bad occurrences of US history with regards to race and gays, but I don't think we need to go into it any further here.

Has anyone been to these parties? They just had one in Dallas last weekend (April14). Thinking of going to the FTL to see one of my favorite porn stars. FORNICATION WWW.FORNICATIONPARTY.COM

I sometimes get uncomfortable if a provider does that because it reminds me of the old personal ad days, but maybe I am overreacting. Thoughts? Example that probably okay but seems to be yelling or emphatic about it: RippedMuscle on Rent.Men RENT.MEN View my profile on Rent.Men But I am not sure about this.... DaddyPhoenixXXX on Rent.Men RENT.MEN View my profile on Rent.Men

The profiles of the clients willing to pay is the major factor. They generate the demand. So, race, along with age, weight, and other factors that influence perceived 'desirability', are material based on client's desires and their profile (wealth, age, race, etc.).

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He is coming to DC, April 28 - May 2 according to his website. I've never been with him but he does seem sexy as hell and what you may be looking for.

I would think the list should work even for NYC as the list is more geared towards a sensual massage even with touching. It says that if the chemistry is there than it can become more 'exotic' based on both the provider and the client enjoying the experience. I would guess that the client would want several sessions with the provider (I certainly would), so it would still be profitable for the provider and I would think that the provider would not feel cheated as he would be enjoying the experience as well.

I don't think so. It would maybe even get worse, at least for a while. And I don't think it is merely a gay issue as I suspect that nonwhite women generally make less than white providers. I'm not sure how people can talk about rates when they are not published on Rentmen, which is the only site I know of right now. And even if a provider quotes a rate, can we assume that they get a lot of clients or more clients than a provider with a lower rate? On RentMasseur, I've seen rates of some massage providers for $200 -250/hour or more and wonder if they are making out better than other providers with lower rates, as I did not think they were that more special/attractive or their ad was all that more enticing to pay their massage rate.

How are all of you finding the rates on Rentmen? I though they used to publish rates for some providers, but I don't see them anymore. I guess I have become a cheap old man - I have hard time wanting to pay more than $250-300 even though I have a much higher net worth than when I was younger and paying about the same amount....