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God dam I need a cigarette after reading that. And I don't even smoke. Well done. 🤤

You seem to know a lot about this. 😎 I have a bookmark and login for both Chainalysis and CipherTrace sitting right here next to me. Both are insanely expensive and you have to be vetted to even get a discussion going with these two companies. Both are the ones used by the IRS, DHS, and FBI. It's what my company does. I'm in this space and probably know more about crypto than anyone on here, but you seem to have a solid grasp on everything based on your reply. But still, you'd be fucking floored by what you can see. Imagine if you could track the real-time moment of every hundred-dollar bill serial number in existence. I'd share a screenshot if there wasn't a risk of someone seeing it and us losing a lot. I genuinely believe that's why the government even entertains the thought of crypto being a thing. It's vastly superior to cash when it comes down to surveillance. lol

If we are traveling together, they sit next to me, and that means First domestic and Business overseas. Only exception is when we're together and I haven't paid for First myself -- I am solely relying on an upgrade for me and a companion. This is usually for shorter (under two hour) flights. When it is more than that, I pay for the First seats for both of us. When short flights, I have the highest status on American (Conciergy Key) and always get the upgrade unless First is sold out with revenue passengers. No exceptions to this rule 99% of the time. But I digress, basic rule is when we're together, we ALWAYS sit together and I am never in the back of the bus, lol. 🤣 For them traveling solo, it really depends on a combination of the fare, the length of the flight, and to be brutally honest: the size of the provider. I have a wide range and like everyone from the slimmer smaller jocks to the huge 6'4 bodybuilders. I would never put the latter in an economy or coach seat, even for a one-hour flight. The former, why not sometimes? My view is they don't "need" the extra space as much, especially for a shorter flight.. lol That said, I have probably paid for flights a sum total of ten times when they weren't flying with me. Of those, none were overseas and for domestic, nine of the ten were first class. I figure if I am going to hire the best of the best (which is really my criteria in almost all cases), they deserve the best from me. That stance has served me well in my personal life, my business life, and my hiring life. 😎

Yeas. Mostly from providers that I have hired more than once and that I have formed that connection with. At the end of the day, it's simply great marketing and good business. There is one in particular that I would hire as my VP of Marketing in a heartbeat. He's so great at follow-up and maintaining communication that he will forever get my cash, lol.

Yea. I'm a stereotypical "bear" and my partner of 14 years was fucking jacked. Like IFBB stage competition level jacked. The one thing I learned a long time ago is that natural masculinity + being calm and cool and comfortable + self-confidence = being able to attract anyone you want.

Alright, so how do you handle something like this exchange I had yesterday? Note the provider had three pictures, all are headless and from the shoulders down. ME/Client: "Hey man. Love your profile. Are you always in [MY CITY] or just visiting? I'm away this week but get home on Thursday and would be interested in spending some time together on Friday evening or Saturday evening if you're local. I'm [NAME]. More information about me and pictures are in my client profile on here if you want to take a look. " HIM/Provider: "Hi [NAME]. I’m local to [MY CITY], yes. I’m [HIS NAME]. Anytime you want to book let me know and be well. Safe travels" Me/Client: "Thanks for the quick reply, way cool. Any chance you have a few more pics you can share before I can commit to some time? That would be helpful for me and I am trying not to come off as a pic collector because I know most guys are just looking for pics and don't follow through. 🙂" HIM/Provider: "No problem. Here you go..." [SENDS FIVE PICS] Now here is the dilemma. I'm really not attracted to his face or his look now that I have seen more. The faceless pics were kind of hot, but I need the whole package, and it's just not there now. So, what is the appropriate response here as a client who doesn't intend to book? Just a "Thank you" seems too short so I didn't reply at all and that was last night. What should I say, if anything? I also don't think I can be 100% authentic here and say the true reason: "Thanks for the pictures. After looking at them, I have decided we aren't a match. Be safe and have a good weekend." That's just -- mean? I'm genuinely curious from the view of providers on here, because otherwise without a response, I am just a pic collector to this provider -- which was certainly not the case. The reason for this post is so that we can all learn, not just myself.

As someone who runs a SaaS (Software/Subscription as a Service) company, I have two pretty huge pieces of advice here for every reader of this thread, both providers and clients alike. They’re a little complicated but this is me 💯% swearing the return on investment is here and anyone who buys stuff online should be doing this already. If not, take time out of your schedule and reorganize over the next few weeks: First: Always, always, always pay for an entire year up front for sites and software you have already determined you like and already see good value in the service. Sure, trial them for a month or two but pay for it yearly after you see the value the site brings. Almost every single one typically offers at least a two month discount (e.g, $99/year vs. $9.99/month) which comes out to a 17% to 20% discount at minimum (sometimes more!) and let’s be honest… prices never ever decrease. They only increase so you’re locked in for the remainder at an even better discount when that happens. This applies to everything from Netflix to Hulu to Amazon Prime to every site that has monthly subscriptions. You always come out ahead, and the company backing the site itself loves the extra revenue their finance folks can recognize on their balance sheet. Total win-win all around. Second: Almost every major bank and credit card company allows this now, so leverage online banking tools from your bank or payment method’s site to create separate “virtual cards” unique to every merchant or website. Don’t pay with bank debits ever. Don’t use your main VISA/MC/AMEX card number that’s physically in your pocket either. At your financial institution site, in 2023, you can typically issue a new private card number and set a spend limit for each individual site you want to subscribe. For example, you can say a company is only allowed to charge $10/month to this virtual card. Sure, it requires a little bit more effort during the initial sign-up but once you’re in the habit, the benefits far, far outweigh the small inconvenience at the time and will make your finances exponentially easier to manage long after the fact. Anytime a site changes terms like Rent.men without notification, their charge is declined. Rent.men goes from $9.95 to $19.95 per change? Automatically declined. I personally probably have 60-90 virtual cards in regular use for everything at any given time. Pro tip: Label them well and using consistent naming conventions Benefit #1: Doing this protects you when your physical card is compromised or lost, something we all know happens regularly these days and can be a royal pain in the ass. With this model in place, you don’t need to re-enter your card everywhere when it happens. Not only software sites and streaming services, but little league fees for your kids, accounts at bookstores or libraries in town, saved payment methods at PayPal or Airline websites or Amazon or GNC.com or 5,000 other eCommerce sites. Trust me here, generating separate virtual cards for all your online activities —IS— a proven lifesaver not only with time but as a budget control stop gap measure. Benefit #2: It prevents sites from charging more without notice. It reverses the roles and puts you in control of the money and debits and you can easily shut off a virtual card where the site doesn’t make it easy to cancel. “Hold the fuck up! You want me to wait on the phone to call to cancel and listen to someone for ten minutes trying to convince me otherwise??” — in this separate card for each site model, you login to your bank and toggle that specific card tied to that site to the off position and never speak to them again. They automatically close your account after 30 days of declined payments. Win-win all around. ————————— That’s all for now typing from my phone at 3:15 AM. I have a half dozen other tips in these scenarios as this type of model is at the core at what my corporation does, but the ones above are mutually beneficial all around. Well, except shutting off virtual cards for individual sites that don’t offer an easy method to cancel recurring charges (think gyms and health/fitness clubs). But that’s on the company for making it harder to cancel. SaaS platforms should be able to flick on and off each month just a light ditch. That’s simply good business in 2023 where you do t have a 12 month or longer contract. This stuff is kind of my wheelhouse, so if anybody has any questions on the intricacies of how any of this works, feel free to post. My only goal is to educate and help everyone here not only with Rent.men, but the other 20-30 sites we all pay monthly for these days. It also helps you set overall budgets (and stick with them!) on sites like OnlyFans so they don’t get out of hand. 👀😳🤣😎 I hope this post was helpful to many others in the forum Upvotes or reactions are very much appreciated to show thanks and let me know if contributing like this is something I should do more. Anyway hope ya’ll got laid this past weekend. multiple times. 😳🍆

Just read through this entire thread, and there's a lot to unpack here. My $0.02 as a client: Removing the hiring aspect from this, we all have to recognize there are people in the world who just are shitty in their approach to almost everything -- and that is the norm. If I had a nickel for every time someone said "Hi!" on one of the apps and nothing more I could buy a few new Macbooks. If you're going to approach anyone in life outside of real person-to-person interactions, come at it with substance. Actually, that can be said for face-to-face too. That said, the provider took the initial step and posted an advertisement, so it's on the client to fully engage from there. I have never sent less than three sentences that include my name, what I am looking for, and a genuine introduction. I find this is always well received and my no-response rate is only about 1%. For me, I have all the time in the world and can make almost anything happen. I also don't really care about rates or prices as nothing is really off the table unless you're coming at me with $1,000/hour or something stupid like that. However, I am not one of those who is only looking for a one-hour sexual encounter and only into the mechanical aspect. I want to get a feel for a provider and our chemistry over text before committing to meeting up, however short or brief that might be. The 'back and forth' for me is part of the thrill, but I also try to disclose that in the beginning. When I approach a provider, I let it be known that I am looking for a more meaningful longer-term arrangement, so their interactions with me are more of an investment on their part. I also fully understand they can't know I am serious about that until after our initial meeting. I'm a pretty successful business owner and have invested eight figures in customer support. I know how fucking horrible "customers" (or clients in this case) can be overall, so all my interactions are from that lens. This thread has been truly helpful.

I turned 45 years old this past year and have mostly always been a total top my entire life since I came out when I was 21-22 years old. The few times I got fucked, it was uncomfortable and just not my thing -- and they weren't even especially big. Truthfully, I can't place my finger on the exact moment about one year ago when I was sitting at my computer and discovered Rent.men for the first time. Although I recall being in the mindset of "If you're gonna pay for this, get exactly what you want..." The funny part is that position (top or bottom) and cock size never was part of my equation at the time. My focus was mainly on other things such as a bodybuilder-type body, a real masculine presence, natural charisma that isn't "work", having physical features like a short beard or a sandpaper-ish 5'oclock shadow, a few "marks on the body" (e.g., not perfectly smooth skin) and face wrinkles (so let's say over 35 yo), among at least a dozen other things. I narrowed my list down from everyone in the USA to just a half dozen guys. Three of the six were semi-local (BOS/NYC/PHL/DC), so I didn't have to travel far for them so they were all on the table for hiring. Of the three, one of them was a total top and a pretty large cock. At least much larger than anything I had let near my hole in the prior 23-24 years. I met with all three and wound up topping the other two, but when I met this last guy, his presence in person was so damned comfortable that I almost immediately confessed to not having genuinely had a good fuck in my life. That was ALL he needed to hear. Fast forward about nine months to today, and I can still replay the entire thing in my head moment by moment. It was some of the hottest sex I have had in my life. He was so skilled he made me freaking love it. There wasn't a single moment where I felt uncomfortable or like it was too big. I single-handedly witnessed what a truly amazing top someone can be when they know what they're doing. I'm thankful he and I don't live in the same city because otherwise I would be filing for bankruptcy at the moment. LOL.

You know what -- Ben isn't even typically my "go to type" but shit I want to hire him just because of his posts, his stellar reputation, and simply how awesome he comes off on here. Oh, and I absolutely will at some point. Not even for sex per se, I just want to have dinner with the dude. For real.

The absolute best guys in this industry are the ones who have full time jobs and other commitments where the escort thing is on the side, because they genuinely enjoy sex and making connections with new people. You can’t begin to put a price on how amazing that is when you’re on the receiving end.

I do everything you’ve said and it works all around. I’ve also sent a private message to another clients to ask about the guy. I am interested in that. I noticed a review a lot of times they will engage and we can talk about the provider and I can ask a couple questions. It works out really well.

My favorite provider of all time has hired providers in his personal life 10-12+ times. He did it to sort through the "app" bullshit (Grindr, etc..) and get straight to the point when he wanted to fuck and not have many strings. I have a hard time believing someone that good fucking looking would do that, but he was being genuine and had very valid reasons and lots of stories. It does make sense if you think about it. You're paying for reliability in that scenario and don't want to bother with the flakiness.

He has face pictures available. I’ve been talking to him and he sent three that are on my RM chat. So maybe just approach respectfully and ask?

The best part about escorting and hiring is that it is a 100% pure, unbridled, open and free market. No regulation, no price manipulation, no nothing. Don't like a provider's rates? Offer something else. They can accept or pass. Providers who price too high don't get business if they are pricing themselves too high. If they're asking $500/hour then it must be working... for them. It's truly a free market.

Best piece of advice to anyone flying is to just get the earliest flight possible no matter where you're going. Typically airlines have equipment in position at the start of any given day. But as the day goes on, they're subject to downstream delays for X Y or Z reason. For this reason, I hardly book flights before Noon and will always move my schedule around to get a flight out of any given area in the mornings vs. later in the day.

Thank you for reading and saying that. It's beautiful. Life is good.

I'm going to back up the stellar reviews. Been with Trev over half a dozen times. We've not only done a bunch of overnights, but he and I took a trip out of the country together recently. He not only provided killer sex and the best BFE, but he completely fit in with the two other people who I knew that were on the trip as well -- the CEO of my company and his Son. Trev was 110% for me the entire time, not a single moment of getting aggravated or complaint which is admirable when you're with someone 24x7 for a lengthy time (4-5 days). He is hands down the most memorable and awesome escort I have ever been with. I suppose there is no such thing as a 5.0 across the board since even the best reviewed sellers on eBay or Amazon or drivers on Uber have a 4.97, lol. I'm really sorry that @musclecockhunt didn't have a great time It's impossible to please everyone in life for sure. Sometimes a person just doesn't click with another people and that's nobody's fault and that's okay on both sides.

Your requirements are NOT out in left field although it is more rare and will depend on the “connection” in general. I’ve experienced what you are asking with exactly 2 out of 11 providers I have hired since early last summer when I started doing this, so it’s out there but it isn’t easy to know up front.

I think all our definitions have evolved over time. The awesome thing about the 21st century is that we have instant communication with almost everyone on the planet. You can easily go online at that age where you're questioning stuff now and be like "Oh, okay, I'm not the only one out here like that..." which was with the case with almost everyone who is gay and over 50 years old. I'm right on that cusp where AOL in its early days let me know it was okay to be gay, simply because there were so many guys who were. As far as "straight" and "gay" that will be forever debated. I will add my own little antidote: The single hottest, toughest, hardest, most masculine guy I ever fucked (over 100 times) was someone you would never, ever consider to be "gay" and he wasn't one of my hires either. Money never changed hands and I met him on the sidewalk in New York City one random afternoon. Jump forward a decade and a half, and he's now one of my best friends in the world and he happily lives his life married with kids. I go over their house every year for the holidays, his wife texts me regularly, I bought and wrapped gifts for both of them and all of their kids last month, and they're both amazing people. He also still has a hankering to get fucked just for the pain aspect every so often. I posted a thread on another forum about that story, and it's really long but has every detail you could want. If you keep reading to Page 2, 3, 4, etc... I post some follow-ups about where we are today. There may be something in there about fucking him before one of his fights and that may have been at a place starting with M in Vegas. 👀 Point is that man has single handedly shattered every idea and notion I ever had of "sexuality" and "top/bottom" and all that jazz. Since the day I met him, I learned to throw all that out the window and you miss 100% of the chances you don't take. In anything. Anyway, just my $0.02. It's a good read, lol: Here: https://www.lpsg.com/threads/true-story-fucking-the-ufc-fighter.6137791/

I did, yes. But the both boys and kxds in the links (I get the cultural difference; not my first ride in the canoe that is Japan), combined with the few I did click on were all Japanese language with no other languages (I could do Spanish and a few others but not an option) available and really difficult to navigate, plus some were just blogs and really lite on the amount of people. I left thinking that there must be some "western" in Japan that is like the two I mentioned with like 1,000 providers. I guess not, or we just haven't discovered it yet. .... or that it's an incredible opportunity for a local who knows the market and has western web development skills, lol.

I'm heading to Japan next month for a while. Not my first ride in the canoe in Japan, but my first after beginning to hire. First, is it illegal and strictly enforced? I ask that because, second: What's the local equivalent of rent.men in the USA or Hunqz in EU? Meaning that one site with almost everyone on it, that is if they're online and not just in-person only? For a metro area of 38 million, there are TEN profiles on RM in all of Tokyo. Fine, maybe that isn't the culture there, but I would expect at least half the amount of NYC. That tells me there's another site out there I do not know about or they're actively putting escorts in prison. 👀

Despite the negative news surrounding FTX and whatever your thoughts are on cryptocurrency, the fact remains it is a mostly anonymous network that allows anyone in the world to transmit money instantly to anyone, without any trusted third party, as easily as sending an e-mail. It would behoove providers to get on board (e.g., have a mobile wallet and receiving address; advertise that digital currency is accepted) as the focus on traditional payments gets tighter and tighter over the coming years.

I've had a handful of escorts reach out to me on Rent.men, after me having viewed their profile -- and be all over me to get together. This isn't just the "Hi I noticed you viewed my profile. If you have any questions or would like to get together, let me know" type messages everyone gets, I am talking about the constant messages day or week after week, to the point of becoming a little annoying at times. Some of them are looking for business, yea, but others based on what they say or is in their profiles, I know I am their "type" in general, so they're looking for fun in many cases. One I told where I would be that evening (at which bar out in their city) and they showed up and we wound up going home together no money involved since they chased after me. However, this is typically a turnoff. I enjoy the 'chase' aspect of a meetup just as much as the actual acts themselves, and don't really like someone being all over me. As a client, I would never engage someone unless I was ready to fully pay their offered and advertised rate for the time I need. No such thing as a free lunch on either side. There's *awalys* strings, lol.

"Illegal activities. Income from illegal activities, such as money from dealing illegal drugs, must be included in your income on Schedule 1 (Form 1040), line 8z, or on Schedule C (Form 1040) if from your self-employment activity." Right from Publication 525 and the 1040 instructions. The last sentence basically calls out sex workers. LOL. The IRS fully expects every person in this country to evaluate every single dollar that passes through their hands and either pay appropriate tax on it or find out where it is excluded from the laws. Escorts should be reporting their gross receipts (total cash received), and deducting expenses like for lube and that stuff separately. Now... in practice. 👀