Traveling

[MichBoyBlake]

Although this is about traveling in general, I promise it's actually a question for other escorts and not just me talking about travel plans, so I do feel that it fits here best. I'm sorry if it doesn't, and if asked by a mod I have no problem moving it to the travel section.

 

Anyways, it's finally getting nice out, summer is starting strong, and although I love traveling and exploring new places, I haven't really had much of an excuse to make very many trips for a little while now. I'm really starting to get the itch, haha.

 

I'm curious about any insights other escorts might have on how to use being a provider as a way to create an excuse to go on some trips. I've heard providers will do a thing sometimes where they list travel dates, and then cancel them if they don't drum up enough interest. I might try that a bit as a way to help, but I really don't want that to be my only tactic. For all I know it has a lot to do with my area, but I'm so used to flaky clients at this point, that I would hate to feel like I've drummed up enough interest, make the plans, go on the trip, and then end up having not enough clients follow through to justify the trip in the first place.

 

Also, is there a good way to try and put out some message to potential clients along the lines of... "I really enjoy traveling and even if you're far away still contact me if you're interested because knowing enough people in your area are interested can give me enough of an excuse to make a trip to your area" ?

I'm not so much looking for how to word that necessarily, but just a way to put out that message without making it seem like needy or aggressive or something.

[Mocha]

I'm curious about any insights other escorts might have on how to use being a provider as a way to create an excuse to go on some trips. I've heard providers will do a thing sometimes where they list travel dates, and then cancel them if they don't drum up enough interest. I might try that a bit as a way to help, but I really don't want that to be my only tactic. For all I know it has a lot to do with my area, but I'm so used to flaky clients at this point, that I would hate to feel like I've drummed up enough interest, make the plans, go on the trip, and then end up having not enough clients follow through to justify the trip in the first place.

 

Also, is there a good way to try and put out some message to potential clients along the lines of... "I really enjoy traveling and even if you're far away still contact me if you're interested because knowing enough people in your area are interested can give me enough of an excuse to make a trip to your area" ?

 

Welcome to the club. Sometimes business getting drummed up in another city doesn’t always promise the desired outcome.

 

However, I’m confused as to what you mean by find a good excuse to travel? Personally, I would make it very clear that the trip is specifically to see clients, even if it's not specifically him. But even if it is. That way a deposit can be made. I wouldn't make excuses like you're traveling to do other things, otherwise it's going to give the flakes less accountability.

 

I have mixed feelings re: The cancelling travel dates when not enough business is expected. A good client may get really pissed off about that, others can be more understanding. Regardless, some of those may or may not reschedule. But when push comes to shove, it's going to be the escort who's stranded miles from home if shit doesn't go accordingly. So, if you think you can break even and have the money to atleast go and come back, by all means go. Sometimes, you may not get the responses you want until you actually get there.

 

Even on this roller coaster Washington D.C. Trip...I came with only 1 advanced appointment from a regular, and just been riding the waves with spur of the moment sessions. I like to let people know that wherever I'm going, is usually strictly for expected client visits. Even getting a hotel is for clients only. That way, they understand I'm not just on vacation having fun. If they think that, they'll cancel and change plans whenever they feel like it.

 

Who cares if it makes you look needy or aggressive. After paying $3 a gallon and more for gas, and $100 a night for hotels to get somewhere, I'm obligated to feel a bit needy and aggressive. Traveling is not a joke. Gas is too high, hotels too expensive. When I hear about these guys getting all expenses paid trips to stay at 4 star hotels by THEIR job, I would feel like a goddamn clown to be traveling around like a chicken with no head...paying for my own hotels and expenses, while people flake and play games. Oh HELL no. I have 0 tolerance.

 

Now, if Rentmen was paying for all my travel, hotels, and lunches and dinners...AND paying me a $100,000 salary a year like these corporate dudes are getting, I wouldn't complain as much. But that's all fantasy.

[MichBoyBlake]

However, I’m confused as to what you mean by find a good excuse to travel? Personally, I would make it very clear that the trip is specifically to see clients, even if it's not specifically him. But even if it is. That way a deposit can be made. I wouldn't make excuses like you're traveling to do other things, otherwise it's going to give the flakes less accountability.

 

To clarify, by "a good excuse to travel" I more or less mean that like, if I ended up getting enough bookings to break even or make a tiny profit after considering general travel expenses, e.g. flights, hotels, rental cars, food, etc... then that would give me a good enough excuse to go visit pretty much anywhere. I really enjoy exploring new places and like, if left to my own devices any travel plans I make would probably end up being relatively predictable in terms of like location/city.. but I do definitely love the idea of just visiting random places that I normally wouldn't really have a reason to visit, and spending a few days or a week there exploring. It's just hard to justify going out and doing that by myself without like some sort of reason to be there.

[MichBoyBlake]

Who cares if it makes you look needy or aggressive. After paying $3 a gallon and more for gas, and $100 a night for hotels to get somewhere, I'm obligated to feel a bit needy and aggressive. Traveling is not a joke. Gas is too high, hotels too expensive. When I hear about these guys getting all expenses paid trips to stay at 4 star hotels by THEIR job, I would feel like a goddamn clown to be traveling around like a chicken with no head...paying for my own hotels and expenses, while people flake and play games. Oh HELL no. I have 0 tolerance.

 

Now, if Rentmen was paying for all my travel, hotels, and lunches and dinners...AND paying me a $100,000 salary a year like these corporate dudes are getting, I wouldn't complain as much. But that's all fantasy.

 

If this was as much of an income source for me as I think it is for you.. (I promise I don't mean any shade at all I'm just guessing that based on the limited interactions I've had with you on here and obviously I fully support this as a viable career), then I'd definitely get pissed about that kind of thing happening too. That does make complete sense to me.

 

I think it's really cool how people set up travel dates and even do like tours and such, don't get me wrong, it's just not the thing for me.. at least for the time being.

 

I'm much more interested in like, finding enough of a work excuse to visit random places here and there, especially this summer since it's been killing me how little I've been outside of my own area lately. But I'd really hate to try and drum up business, and then decide it isn't worth it and cancel, because on a personal level it'd feel unprofessional to me. I PROMISE I'm not at all saying that others who use that tactic are unprofessional.. I just wouldn't be comfortable with canceling traveling dates like that.

 

But I also can't think of any way to find that excuse without planning travel dates and then canceling if I decide there isn't enough interest to be worth it. So I'm kinda having difficulty figuring out how I'd want to go about planning and setting this sort of thing up haha.

[Mocha]

To clarify, by "a good excuse to travel" I more or less mean that like, if I ended up getting enough bookings to break even or make a tiny profit after considering general travel expenses, e.g. flights, hotels, rental cars, food, etc... then that would give me a good enough excuse to go visit pretty much anywhere. I really enjoy exploring new places and like, if left to my own devices any travel plans I make would probably end up being relatively predictable in terms of like location/city.. but I do definitely love the idea of just visiting random places that I normally wouldn't really have a reason to visit, and spending a few days or a week there exploring. It's just hard to justify going out and doing that by myself without like some sort of reason to be there.

 

Ah I see. Well, you learn that you don't really need a reason beyond clients. It's just like when these business travel guys do: they go from the airport, to their hotel room, to the meeting downstairs, back to the airport and back home. I mean, the money is the main motivator for me.

 

Sometimes I don't even like feeling obligated to do touristy things when visiting cities. Especially the 1st time. I remember visiting Denver for the first time, I didn't even go to the mountains. It wasn't until a few months later when I returned, and only because a client had called me up to visit him out there. Glenwood Springs, Colorado. Most scenic drive I'd ever had, at time.

 

Of course if you want to do other things, by all means. But don't feel obligated to have other reasons to go somewhere. When it comes down to it, most cities are similar. I usually just try to go to a club or bar and meet guys offline when I have spare time. It gives a chance to meet new people, and expand your horizons and have people to take the mind off business. If business sucks though, I won't even bother and will just keep it moving.

[MichBoyBlake]

I guess that all makes sense haha. I guess I just need to figure out like, what places I would actually want to visit on my own that could also be very beneficial in terms of booking clients. I'll have to do some thinking about this lol. Thanks for the insight @Mocha !

[Shawn Monroe]

Traveling can be a headache, but I find it ultimately rewarding.

 

If you can figure out how to navigate it and stay sane the perks will outweigh the benefits.

 

I will say, though, that there are a few counterintuitive things that come with traveling. First off: summer isn’t the best time. Clients are usually traveling themselves, and there are lots of events and pride festivals happening. August is basically a wash. You can make summer work, but make damn sure there’s not any event happening where you plan to travel.

 

You don’t always need the best most expensive hotel. The doors need to be on the inside, but besides that, location within the city matters much more (and i kill myself over this more than anything).

 

Time of week matters a lot too. Another counterintuitive thing: weekends can work, and if they’re the only time you can travel (like in my case) you can make it work. But in many instances some combo of weekday and weekends work best for travel spans.

 

Also, drum up interest before hand. It can be a pain, but pick your travel cities and advertise them in advance, put them in your headline and your body text, and put them here. Having advanced appointments will save you some headache and give peace of mind that the trip is worth it. In many instances, traveling to a city more than once is better as people know you’ll get there fairly regularly.

 

And if you end up canceling the trip, you won’t be out much, or you can keep the trip and end up seeing something new (OR SLEEPING).

[Shawn Monroe]

Traveling can be a headache, but I find it ultimately rewarding.

 

If you can figure out how to navigate it and stay sane the perks will outweigh the benefits.

 

I will say, though, that there are a few counterintuitive things that come with traveling. First off: summer isn’t the best time. Clients are usually traveling themselves, and there are lots of events and pride festivals happening. August is basically a wash. You can make summer work, but make damn sure there’s not any event happening where you plan to travel.

 

You don’t always need the best most expensive hotel. The doors need to be on the inside, but besides that, location within the city matters much more (and i kill myself over this more than anything).

 

Time of week matters a lot too. Another counterintuitive thing: weekends can work, and if they’re the only time you can travel (like in my case) you can make it work. But in many instances some combo of weekday and weekends work best for travel spans.

 

Also, drum up interest before hand. It can be a pain, but pick your travel cities and advertise them in advance, put them in your headline and your body text, and put them here. Having advanced appointments will save you some headache and give peace of mind that the trip is worth it. In many instances, traveling to a city more than once is better as people know you’ll get there fairly regularly.

 

And if you end up canceling the trip, you won’t be out much, or you can keep the trip and end up seeing something new (OR SLEEPING).

[Ryan Roman]

Traveling can be a headache, but I find it ultimately rewarding.

 

If you can figure out how to navigate it and stay sane the perks will outweigh the benefits.

 

I will say, though, that there are a few counterintuitive things that come with traveling. First off: summer isn’t the best time. Clients are usually traveling themselves, and there are lots of events and pride festivals happening. August is basically a wash. You can make summer work, but make damn sure there’s not any event happening where you plan to travel.

 

You don’t always need the best most expensive hotel. The doors need to be on the inside, but besides that, location within the city matters much more (and i kill myself over this more than anything).

 

Time of week matters a lot too. Another counterintuitive thing: weekends can work, and if they’re the only time you can travel (like in my case) you can make it work. But in many instances some combo of weekday and weekends work best for travel spans.

 

Also, drum up interest before hand. It can be a pain, but pick your travel cities and advertise them in advance, put them in your headline and your body text, and put them here. Having advanced appointments will save you some headache and give peace of mind that the trip is worth it. In many instances, traveling to a city more than once is better as people know you’ll get there fairly regularly.

 

And if you end up canceling the trip, you won’t be out much, or you can keep the trip and end up seeing something new (OR SLEEPING).

 

I'm curious: why do doors need to be on the inside when traveling and meeting clients? Mine always have been that way, but I'm curious as to why you recommend that design feature.

[MichBoyBlake]

I'm curious: why do doors need to be on the inside when traveling and meeting clients? Mine always have been that way, but I'm curious as to why you recommend that design feature.

 

Personally I'm horrible and I actually prefer staying at places where the doors are on the outside, although I'm not saying I prefer fleabag motels either. I'm not the person you're asking obviously, but I think if I were to stay at a hotel that I planned on meeting clients in, I would definitely want it to be not just doors on the inside, but also the type of hotel that has a small bar and maybe even a small restaurant inside as well; I would feel more comfortable with the added buffer of a lobby that's relatively busy most of the time due to amenities offered by the hotel.

 

If the client is just walking right up to your room door from their car, it completely removes that buffer.

[Shawn Monroe]

I'm curious: why do doors need to be on the inside when traveling and meeting clients? Mine always have been that way, but I'm curious as to why you recommend that design feature.

 

I was more getting st the doors to the rooms at the hotel. As in don’t stay in a motel in most cases; stay in actual hotels.

 

Like @MichBoyBlake said, it provides some buffer. Not only that but it gives off the impression of being a little classier. Even clients have said “don’t stay in a hotel where the doors are outside” so they may look for it too.

Edited May 24, 2018 by Shawn Monroe

[MichBoyBlake]

I was more getting st the doors to the rooms at the hotel. As in don’t stay in a motel in most cases; stay in actual hotels.

 

Like @MichBoyBlake said, it provides some buffer. Not only that but it gives off the impression of being a little classier. Even clients have said “don’t stay in a hotel where the doors are outside” so they may look for it too.

 

Totally unrelated but your signature on here just gave me a good idea and I'm not gonna make mine exactly the way you've done yours but uhh.. you might notice some influence

[Mocha]

I'm curious: why do doors need to be on the inside when traveling and meeting clients? Mine always have been that way, but I'm curious as to why you recommend that design feature.

 

Hmmmm...I hate to be nit picky and not agree with my friend @Shawn Monroe, but it’s one of those things that I would have to say is more of a personal preference, than a law.

 

I’ve had clients come see me in everything from the econo lodge up to the entire family of Sheraton, Mariott and Hilton. I’ve only once had a client balk at me staying at a doors outside hotel. That was in Houston, and I doubt it was because of the hotel anyway.

 

The thing is, that same rule ends up being applied to clients as well...which can be unfair. I’ve made as much money in an hour at motels as I’ve done in hotels. Some clients stay in motels due to pets, or saving money to hire escorts

 

Also, if anyone remembers...the Boston murders that took place years ago, happened to a provider who was staying inside a doors in hotel. Granted, cameras helped catch the suspect, but those same cameras can also cause an escort to get spotted and get kicked out.

 

I’ve also stayed at a doors in hotel (Phoenix, Arizona), and had my car broken into. I’ve never had my car messed with in a doors outside hotel. I usually park in front of my room and leave the curtains open. Personally, if it were up to me...I’d choose those hotels all the time. I hate walking miles thru hallways and elevators, especially when I’m already tired from traveling. But I realize they tend to be run of the mill. Also in the summer, flies get into doors out motels much easier (speaking of which, my worst fly infestation at motels happened to be in Oklahoma City of all places lol)

 

I personally have to switch between upscale and low budget hotels for my comfort. Sometimes I get so tired of these posh business hotels where everyone is White, dressed suit and tie, and sitting around talking about work and politics. On weekends, all the families pack the nice hotels and get on my fucking nerves with their kids and shit. Sometimes I just want to park the car, and walk straight to my room without seeing anyone except my next client. And that usually involves getting a 1st floor room where I only walk 6 feet from the trunk of my car, to the front door of the room.

 

The ONLY budget hotel chain I would not recommend, is Motel 6. Simply because their beds are like bunks, and even though their new style is cleaner, the rooms are often like children’s rooms and beds...and I’ve got a sensative back that hurts in the mornings on flimsy beds. Rodeway inn, America’s best Inn, and Econo Lodge seem to have a knack for not making budget motels FEEL like budget motels

[wklucas]

"""I hate walking miles thru hallways and elevators, especially when I’m already tired from traveling."""

 

 

Too tired to walk down hotel hallways and/or ride elevators ???......for a supposed 30 yr old, too, too funny......a real dream hire - too tired to keep "it" up.

[Mocha]

"""I hate walking miles thru hallways and elevators, especially when I’m already tired from traveling."""

 

 

Too tired to walk down hotel hallways and/or ride elevators ???......for a supposed 30 yr old, too, too funny......a real dream hire - too tired to keep "it" up.

 

Boy please, shut that shit up. I don’t even know you, and I could leave you in the dust on the track. Who you think you’re fooling?

[AJ Doyle]

Although this is about traveling in general, I promise it's actually a question for other escorts and not just me talking about travel plans, so I do feel that it fits here best. I'm sorry if it doesn't, and if asked by a mod I have no problem moving it to the travel section.

 

Anyways, it's finally getting nice out, summer is starting strong, and although I love traveling and exploring new places, I haven't really had much of an excuse to make very many trips for a little while now. I'm really starting to get the itch, haha.

 

I'm curious about any insights other escorts might have on how to use being a provider as a way to create an excuse to go on some trips. I've heard providers will do a thing sometimes where they list travel dates, and then cancel them if they don't drum up enough interest. I might try that a bit as a way to help, but I really don't want that to be my only tactic. For all I know it has a lot to do with my area, but I'm so used to flaky clients at this point, that I would hate to feel like I've drummed up enough interest, make the plans, go on the trip, and then end up having not enough clients follow through to justify the trip in the first place.

 

Also, is there a good way to try and put out some message to potential clients along the lines of... "I really enjoy traveling and even if you're far away still contact me if you're interested because knowing enough people in your area are interested can give me enough of an excuse to make a trip to your area" ?

I'm not so much looking for how to word that necessarily, but just a way to put out that message without making it seem like needy or aggressive or something.

I always post "Close to traveling" for areas under 50 miles from me. But if I'm gonna travel further and get a hotel I post dates I am traveling. I also announce in my ad that I am taking pre-bookings. I explain I don't want to be on my phone the whole time I'm there, so please pre-book. If the person messages and books with you after a few questions you can be pretty sure they are for real. If they ask to book you, but can't give a date and time...don't take that as a for sure booking. I write them down on a post it note as someone that might come thru. Also if a client seems like they are just trying to have free phone or text sex with you...they probably aren't serious about booking Another post it note. Most clients that book ask a few questions...settle on a date and time...and then disappear until the day of. You send out a confirmation...they respond. You meet. Fun ensues. If they want an all day or Overnight take a Paypal Deposit to hold the date. Those are my favorite cause I'm like okay this is For REal Happening!!

[AJ Doyle]

Welcome to the club. Sometimes business getting drummed up in another city doesn’t always promise the desired outcome.

 

However, I’m confused as to what you mean by find a good excuse to travel? Personally, I would make it very clear that the trip is specifically to see clients, even if it's not specifically him. But even if it is. That way a deposit can be made. I wouldn't make excuses like you're traveling to do other things, otherwise it's going to give the flakes less accountability.

 

I have mixed feelings re: The cancelling travel dates when not enough business is expected. A good client may get really pissed off about that, others can be more understanding. Regardless, some of those may or may not reschedule. But when push comes to shove, it's going to be the escort who's stranded miles from home if shit doesn't go accordingly. So, if you think you can break even and have the money to atleast go and come back, by all means go. Sometimes, you may not get the responses you want until you actually get there.

 

Even on this roller coaster Washington D.C. Trip...I came with only 1 advanced appointment from a regular, and just been riding the waves with spur of the moment sessions. I like to let people know that wherever I'm going, is usually strictly for expected client visits. Even getting a hotel is for clients only. That way, they understand I'm not just on vacation having fun. If they think that, they'll cancel and change plans whenever they feel like it.

 

Who cares if it makes you look needy or aggressive. After paying $3 a gallon and more for gas, and $100 a night for hotels to get somewhere, I'm obligated to feel a bit needy and aggressive. Traveling is not a joke. Gas is too high, hotels too expensive. When I hear about these guys getting all expenses paid trips to stay at 4 star hotels by THEIR job, I would feel like a goddamn clown to be traveling around like a chicken with no head...paying for my own hotels and expenses, while people flake and play games. Oh HELL no. I have 0 tolerance.

 

Now, if Rentmen was paying for all my travel, hotels, and lunches and dinners...AND paying me a $100,000 salary a year like these corporate dudes are getting, I wouldn't complain as much. But that's all fantasy.

He didn't really specify how much interest was required to not cancel plans. I can say though I agree with what you are saying. One or Two clients to me is enough interest...cause you will likely drum up at least one other client in addition to that once you arrive. So for me as long as I have enough "for sure clients" to pay for my travel expenses I go thru with it. I don't believe in canceling on clients. So if I book a client I follow thru. Now if my one client I have is not giving me the feeling he is "for sure" then I might consider not following thru travel plans if that is all I am getting as far as interest.

[AJ Doyle]

Hmmmm...I hate to be nit picky and not agree with my friend @Shawn Monroe, but it’s one of those things that I would have to say is more of a personal preference, than a law.

 

I’ve had clients come see me in everything from the econo lodge up to the entire family of Sheraton, Mariott and Hilton. I’ve only once had a client balk at me staying at a doors outside hotel. That was in Houston, and I doubt it was because of the hotel anyway.

 

The thing is, that same rule ends up being applied to clients as well...which can be unfair. I’ve made as much money in an hour at motels as I’ve done in hotels. Some clients stay in motels due to pets, or saving money to hire escorts

 

Also, if anyone remembers...the Boston murders that took place years ago, happened to a provider who was staying inside a doors in hotel. Granted, cameras helped catch the suspect, but those same cameras can also cause an escort to get spotted and get kicked out.

 

I’ve also stayed at a doors in hotel (Phoenix, Arizona), and had my car broken into. I’ve never had my car messed with in a doors outside hotel. I usually park in front of my room and leave the curtains open. Personally, if it were up to me...I’d choose those hotels all the time. I hate walking miles thru hallways and elevators, especially when I’m already tired from traveling. But I realize they tend to be run of the mill. Also in the summer, flies get into doors out motels much easier (speaking of which, my worst fly infestation at motels happened to be in Oklahoma City of all places lol)

 

I personally have to switch between upscale and low budget hotels for my comfort. Sometimes I get so tired of these posh business hotels where everyone is White, dressed suit and tie, and sitting around talking about work and politics. On weekends, all the families pack the nice hotels and get on my fucking nerves with their kids and shit. Sometimes I just want to park the car, and walk straight to my room without seeing anyone except my next client. And that usually involves getting a 1st floor room where I only walk 6 feet from the trunk of my car, to the front door of the room.

 

The ONLY budget hotel chain I would not recommend, is Motel 6. Simply because their beds are like bunks, and even though their new style is cleaner, the rooms are often like children’s rooms and beds...and I’ve got a sensative back that hurts in the mornings on flimsy beds. Rodeway inn, America’s best Inn, and Econo Lodge seem to have a knack for not making budget motels FEEL like budget motels

Agree with all that. Except the Rodeway Inn Last time I stayed at one it was super Scary! A client paid for the room for me after our session. Was soooo Loud! Cars coming and going in the parking lot. I decided not to book any other clients and just locked the doors...and went to sleep. If u stay at a motel like this choose a room on the inside of the courtyard as on the outside it is too damn LOUD!

[Mocha]

Agree with all that. Except the Rodeway Inn Last time I stayed at one it was super Scary! A client paid for the room for me after our session. Was soooo Loud! Cars coming and going in the parking lot. I decided not to book any other clients and just locked the doors...and went to sleep. If u stay at a motel like this choose a room on the inside of the courtyard as on the outside it is too damn LOUD!

 

Oh yeah, well what @Shawn Monroe said def has some truth to it though, about keeping the doors on the inside. But there’s a misconception about doors outside motels, that aren’t necessarily true. Some have said to not see clients in such hotels, because they may be cops. Untrue.

 

Also, up north, most hotels are doors inside...but doesn’t mean it’s not ratchet either lol. And then sometimes you never know what you’re going to get.

 

But obviously, interior room hotels look less intimidating than exterior room hotels. However, the exterior ones are the easiest, least fuss ones...and I tend to switch between the two at random.