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The South would be the states that allowed slavery in 1861 regardless of whether they joined the Confederacy or not. So that would include Maryland and Delaware. West Virginia in 1861 was still a part of Virginia and did not become a state until 1863.

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The South would be the states that allowed slavery in 1861 regardless of whether they joined the Confederacy or not. So that would include Maryland and Delaware. West Virginia in 1861 was still a part of Virginia and did not become a state until 1863.

 

If that were the case IL would be considered the south. By default slavery happened in IL. Let's leave politics out of this topic.

 

Hugs,

Greg

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If that were the case IL would be considered the south. By default slavery happened in IL. Let's leave politics out of this topic.

 

Hugs,

Greg

 

I wasn't trying to be political only attempting to set the geographical boundaries of what constitutes the South and not the culture.

 

Akin to New England consisting of six states - Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island (and Providence Plantations), Connecticut.

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States that I consider mostly Southern are Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Tennessee. Southern Delaware is Southern, but northern Delaware is not. A large part of physical Maryland and Virginia is Southern, but the heavily populated areas around DC are not. North Florida is Southern, but south Florida is Northern. East Texas is definitely Southern, but the rest of the state is really Western, and the same is true of Oklahoma. Southern Missouri is Southern, but the northern part of the state is Midwestern. West Virginia is a category unto itself. IMHO, to qualify as truly Southern, an area's economy has to have been historically agricultural.

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Alabama after the civil war's tricky. It was mostly steel mills and had a slew of Italian, Greek and Irish immigrants in Birmingham.

 

Michigan's got the most hillbillies/rednecks/bamas. Detroit's the capital of Appalachia, just not there.

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Alabama after the civil war's tricky. It was mostly steel mills and had a slew of Italian, Greek and Irish immigrants in Birmingham.

 

There are a lot of rich people in Birmingham

A lot of ghosts in a lot of houses

Look over there!...A dry ice factory

A good place to get some thinking done

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This are the Southern states yet some think Missouri should be added, and Oklahoma, Maryland, Kentucky and WV have identity crisis and should belong in different groups.

 

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/usa/statesbw/south/southbw.GIF

 

other versions

http://www.yuriar.com/aprendemosacademy/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2014/07/USA-Regions.jpg

 

Idaho, Mo and Wyoming as part of the NW...

 

http://www.studying-in-us.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/united_states_regions_labeled.png

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There are a lot of rich people in Birmingham

A lot of ghosts in a lot of houses

Look over there!...A dry ice factory

A good place to get some thinking done

David Byrne probably was talking about AL and not UK.

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