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A (muscular) escort told me that he was contacted through his Rentmen ad by someone at the Ellen Degeneres talk show to see if he would be interested in stripping on the show.

 

(Ellen frequently has "strippers" or at least hunky guys who remove their shirts on the show as eye candy.)

 

I always assumed these guys were male models in L.A. - but it struck me as funny that this guy was contacted directly through Rentmen. I asked him if he thought it was a scam - but when he called the producer back, he had the actual number for Ellen's production offices. However, He said the producer said he would have to "audition" first.

 

The escort declined (he told me he did not want to be on TV and he could not dance anyway). Not surprisingly, Ellen employs many gay men - and I was curious if some producer regularly reaches out to hot escorts to have them "audition".

 

There was a particularly hot stripper on Ellen's show today which reminded me of the escort.

 

Has anyone seen an escort they know personally on TV?

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Many of the people who produce TV shows are gay [so is Ellen], and very resourceful!

I can assure you that booking via Rentmen will be faster and less expensive that an LA Agency!

I have seen multiple guys I recognize on and off over the years.

The producer must get a piece of the action as part of the 'audition'. If the candidate passes their litmus test, they get to be on the show. Just think of the free publicity for the escort . . . Unless they already have a good following and prefer to stay under the radar.

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You might want to google 'harvey weinstein.' Just sayin...

Well what I'm suggesting would be voluntary, not mandatory. You know that no matter what, there are always ways to get a leg up on the competition. Just saying . . . And I believe that guys are less likely to dig up BS from 20 years ago like these women are doing. Crying on TV with Gloria Allred by their side, is truly nauseating. Don't get me wrong, I'm the last one to want to see anyone abused or discriminated against but there's no doubt in my mind that some of this stuff is all about the $$$$$$! All the more reason why we need a good message.

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Well what I'm suggesting would be voluntary, not mandatory. You know that no matter what, there are always ways to get a leg up on the competition. Just saying . . . And I believe that guys are less likely to dig up BS from 20 years ago like these women are doing. Crying on TV with Gloria Allred by their side, is truly nauseating. Don't get me wrong, I'm the last one to want to see anyone abused or discriminated against but there's no doubt in my mind that some of this stuff is all about the $$$$$$! All the more reason why we need a good message.

You are a misogynist pig.

 

Just sayin'

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Well what I'm suggesting would be voluntary, not mandatory. You know that no matter what, there are always ways to get a leg up on the competition. Just saying . . . And I believe that guys are less likely to dig up BS from 20 years ago like these women are doing. Crying on TV with Gloria Allred by their side, is truly nauseating. Don't get me wrong, I'm the last one to want to see anyone abused or discriminated against but there's no doubt in my mind that some of this stuff is all about the $$$$$$! All the more reason why we need a good message.

Unbelievable

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The giveaway, if the rest weren't blatant enough, is always "Don't get me wrong, I'm the last one to want to see anyone abused or discriminated against but..." It's a very big but. Gigantic, even. So big that what it really means is "I'm abusive and discriminatory."

No, not at all. You've got me wrong but you are entitled to your opinion. If you believe that all of these stories are valid and worthy of prosecution. that's your opinion. I tend to be a bit more skeptical and have learned thats it's not always wise to takes things at face value.

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Well what I'm suggesting would be voluntary, not mandatory. You know that no matter what, there are always ways to get a leg up on the competition. Just saying . . . And I believe that guys are less likely to dig up BS from 20 years ago like these women are doing. Crying on TV with Gloria Allred by their side, is truly nauseating. Don't get me wrong, I'm the last one to want to see anyone abused or discriminated against but there's no doubt in my mind that some of this stuff is all about the $$$$$$! All the more reason why we need a good message.

 

If it is true that "guys are less likely to dig up BS from 20 years ago like these women are doing," it may be because women were far more likely to be the objects of abuse and discrimination. I'm not saying that men did not have their moments (a lot of priests out there!) but women had a lot less power and leverage.

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No, not at all. You've got me wrong but you are entitled to your opinion. If you believe that all of these stories are valid and worthy of prosecution. that's your opinion. I tend to be a bit more skeptical and have learned thats it's not always wise to takes things at face value.

It's wise not to take things at face value when they stop making sense or don't check out, as in the Duke lacrosse team case. But until then, expressing skepticism about any and all allegations by women is misogynistic, especially if you aren't equally skeptical of allegations of crimes without a sexual component.

 

Besides, so far what women have said checks out with multiple, often dozens of survivors of the same man's abuse coming forward. Michigan State just settled claims with over 300 women and girls raped and molested by Larry Nasser under the guise of medical treatment for half a billion dollars. Stopping him after the first complaint would have prevented a lot of unnecessary trauma, suffering and damage to athletic careers and psyches and would have saved the state a lot of money.

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It's wise not to take things at face value when they stop making sense or don't check out, as in the Duke lacrosse team case. But until then, expressing skepticism about any and all allegations by women is misogynistic, especially if you aren't equally skeptical of allegations of crimes without a sexual component.

 

Besides, so far what women have said checks out with multiple, often dozens of survivors of the same man's abuse coming forward. Michigan State just settled claims with over 300 women and girls raped and molested by Larry Nasser under the guise of medical treatment for half a billion dollars. Stopping him after the first complaint would have prevented a lot of unnecessary trauma, suffering and damage to athletic careers and psyches and would have saved the state a lot of money.

Quoththeraven - I do agree with you. You are right on point about this. When I saw all of those young women come forward detailing the abuse that they were subjected to by Larry Nasser, I found it hard to believe that kind of stuff could have gone on for so long affecting so many women with nothing being done about it. There's no doubt in my mind that these women were being truthful. When you saw the look on the faces of these women when they had to testify and tell their stories, it was heartbraking. How did he get away with it for so long is the question? When these girls went home and told their parents, what happened? Could the school brush off that many allegations? I don't think this kind of thing would happen as easily today in the current environment.

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Quoththeraven - I do agree with you. You are right on point about this. When I saw all of those young women come forward detailing the abuse that they were subjected to by Larry Nasser, I found it hard to believe that kind of stuff could have gone on for so long affecting so many women with nothing being done about it. There's no doubt in my mind that these women were being truthful. When you saw the look on the faces of these women when they had to testify and tell their stories, it was heartbraking. How did he get away with it for so long is the question? When these girls went home and told their parents, what happened? Could the school brush off that many allegations? I don't think this kind of thing would happen as easily today in the current environment.

 

I think a lot has to do with the different way we treat sex as regards men and women. In the past (hopefully this will be changing) if a woman had been sexually abused first a girl/woman was made to feel as if it was her fault. Then if she gathered strength to report the abuse and testify she was made to feel shame sometimes from the very authorities that she reported the matter to or the prosecutors that were taking care of the matter. Is it any wonder women failed to report the matters for years? It will take decades to remedy the situation. Much of it will be due to an increase in the number of female judges and prosecutors.

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I think a lot has to do with the different way we treat sex as regards men and women. In the past (hopefully this will be changing) if a woman had been sexually abused first a girl/woman was made to feel as if it was her fault. Then if she gathered strength to report the abuse and testify she was made to feel shame sometimes from the very authorities that she reported the matter to or the prosecutors that were taking care of the matter. Is it any wonder women failed to report the matters for years? It will take decades to remedy the situation. Much of it will be due to an increase in the number of female judges and prosecutors.

An even more direct response: SMASH THE PATRIARCHY!

 

Socializing boys more like girls and socializing girls more like boys would be useful. Girls should not grow up thinking romantic love is the end all and be all of life and boys should not grow up thinking women exist to satisfy their sexual desires (if they're heterosexual or bi) or take care of them/the nitty gritty details or deal with their emotions.

 

I get angry because love and relationships have been dangled in front of women who've been abused and taken advantage of by more powerful and privileged men. I'm particularly thinking here of famed PoC authors Junot Diaz and Sherman Alexie, who preyed on female authors, students and aspiring authors of color.

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