More Conservative Masseurs Lately?

[fratphysicals]

Has anyone noticed a lot more masseurs becoming much more conservative with their offerings (not politically), lately? There are even some I’ve seen before that have transitioned over to the legit side of things lately.

[FrequentMassageGetter]

Yes. I’ve noticed that. I’m guessing it has to do with them getting into serious relationships though can’t say for sure that’s the reason.

[+ sync]

I believe they are doing it with good reason in light of the current anti-sex worker prosecution craze.

[+ glutes]

I've seen one masseur for over 8 years, he's clammed up too.

That said, I will not see him anymore. His loss!

[Dmitri]

I've seen one masseur for over 8 years, he's clammed up too.

That said, I will not see him anymore. His loss!

 

That has not happened with anyone I have used. The ones I use it is business as usual. With the ones that have become more "conservative".....such as yours @Oaktown .....are they still charging the same rate, or did they drop the rate when they dropped the offerings? Seems only fair if they offer less, they should charge less.

[maninsoma]

I've seen one masseur for over 8 years, he's clammed up too.

That said, I will not see him anymore. His loss!

 

That seems odd that a masseur would change his practice with a client he's been seeing for that long. I understand being hesitant to offer anything beyond a therapeutic massage to a new client if the masseur is worried about entrapment, but an existing client?

[+ newatthis]

Yes. I’ve noticed that. I’m guessing it has to do with them getting into serious relationships though can’t say for sure that’s the reason.

Not a trend, but it has happened once or twice. And before the current sex-traffic hysteria. Relationship is a good guess. Another: someone exceeds his usual limits (for whatever reason, e.g. heat of the moment) and moves back to where he's more comfortable.

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

Not a trend, but it has happened once or twice. And before the current sex-traffic hysteria. Relationship is a good guess. Another: someone exceeds his usual limits (for whatever reason, e.g. heat of the moment) and moves back to where he's more comfortable.

I had brief period years ago where I was doing massage. The limits I had set up for myself were that every client got the option for a HE if they wanted it (surprisingly not everyone did) and that's where I drew the line. About 2 months into it, I found myself engaging in more with certain clients when I found them attractive. I didn't actively advertise that I was available for "extras" and I never charged for it. It was weird though, after I started playing more with clients, I got a LOT more requests for the extras from potential clients. It started to feel more like an escort ad rather than a massage ad. It was a reality check for me, and that's when I stopped offering the extras and went back to my original limits.

[Trick]

I’ve experienced the opposite. A masseur I’ve seen last year who offered no extras at all offered “full” service when I met him yesterday.

 

I don’t know how true it was but he said it was the first time he did it with a client.

[Capitano]

I had brief period years ago where I was doing massage. The limits I had set up for myself were that every client got the option for a HE if they wanted it (surprisingly not everyone did) and that's where I drew the line. About 2 months into it, I found myself engaging in more with certain clients when I found them attractive. I didn't actively advertise that I was available for "extras" and I never charged for it. It was weird though, after I started playing more with clients, I got a LOT more requests for the extras from potential clients. It started to feel more like an escort ad rather than a massage ad. It was a reality check for me, and that's when I stopped offering the extras and went back to my original limits.

 

I totally understand this evolution of things, and I so don't enjoy massages where extras are part of the deal upfront, that makes it too escorty for my taste. However, it is unfortunate that you seem to be forgoing something you like to do in some of the cases. I mean, could you still do it and then simply make it clear in the end by saying: "hey, this is not what I normally do, I just like and feel comfortable with you, but please don't talk about it or recommend me to others based on it? It is very awkward and unpleasant when a new client comes in expecting it." There is nothing wrong with two adults enjoying some intimacy if they both like and agree to it and there is absolutely nothing illegal about it if no sexual favors are exchanged for money.

 

PS I fucking hate the current environment that is making people restrain their most intimate behavior for fear of being persecuted while, for example, none of those motherfucking embezzlers that caused the housing crash ended in jail. Or any of the lying warmongers, but that's a whole different story.

[maninsoma]

I had brief period years ago where I was doing massage. The limits I had set up for myself were that every client got the option for a HE if they wanted it (surprisingly not everyone did) and that's where I drew the line. About 2 months into it, I found myself engaging in more with certain clients when I found them attractive. I didn't actively advertise that I was available for "extras" and I never charged for it. It was weird though, after I started playing more with clients, I got a LOT more requests for the extras from potential clients. It started to feel more like an escort ad rather than a massage ad. It was a reality check for me, and that's when I stopped offering the extras and went back to my original limits.

 

I'm sure that the clients with whom you played talked with other clients and that's what caused your sudden surge of inquiries for more "extras." That's why I am always hesitant to provide too much information about what transpired between a particular masseur and me. I have no idea whether that masseur's behavior with me was his normal level of service or whether I got something extra due to chemistry or timing or some other reason. I think it's reasonable for prospective clients to want to have some idea of what they can expect when they hire a masseur that is charging way above the normal rate for a therapeutic only massage, but I think it's unwise for people to discuss masseurs in the same way they do escorts. If someone really wants "full service," he should be contacting an escort and not a masseur anyway even though I have had a few fortunate encounters were some masseurs and I hit it off and they ended up providing much more than sensual massages.

[+ newatthis]

I totally understand this evolution of things, and I so don't enjoy massages where extras are part of the deal upfront, that makes it too escorty for my taste....

 

I'm sure that the clients with whom you played talked with other clients and that's what caused your sudden surge of inquiries for more "extras." That's why I am always hesitant to provide too much information about what transpired between a particular masseur and me....

I have benefited multiple times from people's willingness to be open about what they've experienced, especially since, like Capitano, I am really turned on when a massage turns into something more (without any discussion beforehand about that happening).

 

But -- I always ask for and give out information in private messages*, not in public fora. I always accompany my remarks with a "YMMV" disclaimer and make clear that nothing other than a standard massage was arranged in advance. Most importantly, I never go to a newly recommended masseur with the expectation that things will heat up erotically. I do what I always do -- look for, and give out, gentle signals that more is possible and follow up on them when appropriate.

 

*I am cautious about whom I share information with -- someone with no posting record who starts his PM "does this guy fuck?" is unlikely to receive a response.

[hornytwells]

It is always a dilemma when guys you dont know pm and ask for details about masseurs. I feel if you give out the info then there is a chance they will demand from the masseur and say :"Oh I heard that you do this" etc. I am usually pretty trusting when approached for info, and I try to gauge from the wording if the poster is genuine, but even so I feel a little uncomfortable disclosing things that could potentially harm a masseurs reputation, or breach their trust. I always suggest that you do your research but go with little expectations, treat them with respect etc and take your chance. They are not escorts.