Can you request no drape on a 'therapeutic' massage?

[+ 7829V]

Hi guys, has anyone requested no drape on a 'therapeutic' massage? How did it go?

 

I think it makes a difference if the masseur goes to your place instead of you going to a spa type of place.

 

If you have experience on requesting no drape, hope you can share it.

[+ sniper]

I've said, "I'm warm enough, you don't need to bother with the blanket" at a place that put a sheet and then a blanket on top and was informed that it was spa policy. The guy wasn't shy about the glutes or anything though so I don't think it'a that he cared, but that the spa was cracking the whip.

[+ muscleboyinsd]

I've gone to private masseur who advertise as Legit or Therapeutic and asked for no draping. Most of them seem OK with that. And without the draping, most have still been Legit or non-sensual. But sometimes... things happen

[+ Nakedchi]

Same for me. I don't think most guys care about draping, even at spas, as long you're discreet about telling other customers.

[+ nycman]

I only ask a “legit” masseur after I’ve seen them several

times and we’re comfortable with each other. Several

times they’ve offered without my even requesting.

They usually say something along the lines of “This

sheet is just getting in the way. You don’t seem like the

“shy” type. Are you cool if we just get rid of it”.

 

None of them have seemed to care at all. None of them

became more sexual as a result though either.

 

A “blanket” during a massage is a deal killer for me.

If it’s “spa policy”....I get up off the table and make it

their problem. “I’m sorry, I didn’t know this is the kind

of sleazy place where proper spa etiquette might be

perceived as a “problem”. I will be getting dressed

and leaving now to find a more professional spa”.

Edited December 8, 2017 by nycman

[+ 7829V]

And if it's no draping and you have a hard on, you try to suppress it or just let it be...?

[LivingnLA]

In the USA, draping is frequently required by law. Check your local regulations because massage is regulated at the state and sometimes county and city levels. Any actually certified/licensed massage therapist who fails to drape, may have their certificate/license revoked, lose their job, or even face charges if they're caught. It all depends on where they work.

Edited December 9, 2017 by LivingnLA

[+ 7829V]

For therapeutic massage at a professional spa I have only had masseuses (women) so I am actually more comfortable with the sheet/towel.

At men’s spas I let my body language suggest that there isn’t a chance in hell that the masseur is going to cover me with a towel or blanket - and I get a sense they like it that way anyway.

 

How's that body language? You move so the 'drape' falls to the side?

[Guest MikeThomas]

Years ago I used a straight masseur in his private studio. I asked not to be draped. He wouldn’t agree to that... but, he suggested covering up my dick and ass with a face cloth which I folded to the minimum required. It would almost come off as I got hard. Quite honestly I found it very hot.

[+ 7829V]

Years ago I used a straight masseur in his private studio. I asked not to be draped. He wouldn’t agree to that... but, he suggested covering up my dick and ass with a face cloth which I folded to the minimum required. It would almost come off as I got hard. Quite honestly I found it very hot.

 

Yes, that could be kind of erotic!

[+ sniper]

In the USA, draping is required by law. Any actually certified/licensed massage therapist who fails to drape, may have their certificate/license revoked, lose their job, or even face charges if they're caught. It all depends on where they work.

I have no problem with a sheet. It's the sheet plus blanket that I find ridiculous. Too much of the massage time gets eaten up by handling it.

[+ sniper]

I also think it varies from state to state whether draping is required.

[Redwine56]

And if it's no draping and you have a hard on, you try to suppress it or just let it be...?

Let it be and say to "save it for the grand finale"!

[Redwine56]

I have no problem with a sheet. It's the sheet plus blanket that I find ridiculous. Too much of the massage time gets eaten up by handling it.

Agreed - what are we being laid to rest? Blankets are for taking a nap. If we are cold, ask them to "warm me up" with some special strokes.

[Redwine56]

Yes, that could be kind of erotic!

Are you certain he was straight? He may have been concerned about him getting aroused! I can picture a teepee being formed by the washcloth over the nice erection. That is hot!

[LivingnLA]

I have no problem with a sheet. It's the sheet plus blanket that I find ridiculous. Too much of the massage time gets eaten up by handling it.

 

A good therapist can drape and undrape an area very quickly and some spas are very strict about blankets because the sheets are sheer or any number of other reasons. Plus, if you're actually interested in a therapeutic effect, keeping the soft tissues warm is critical to achieving certain outcomes.

 

But, we're all on this website for erotic/friendly/fun activities, so I'm not surprised many don't like blankets.

 

Also, every professional code of conduct I've read for massage in the USA specifies proper draping, but on sites like massuerfinder, the majority aren't trained practicing therapists. A professional massage therapist will almost certainly have signed one or more professional codes of ethics and conduct that included proper draping. But, again, on sites like massuerfinder, it's mostly amateurs providing bodywork with extras. There's nothing wrong with that if a living can be made, everyone has fun, and no one is hurt or injured.

 

I'm a stickler on this one because men are a minority in massage and in my limited knowledge, they get only "1 strike" and they're fired if an employer learns they're doing anything inappropriate. Since this thread was about a real therapeutic massage, I felt it important to be firm about this because we're talking about someone's living, license, and possibly even criminal record if it all goes wrong.

 

If you really want undraped therapeutic massage, go to many different countries on Earth. We're prudes in the USA.

[+ EVdude]

And if it's no draping and you have a hard on, you try to suppress it or just let it be...?

As my Wicked favorite Idina Menzal sang.. “Let it go, let it go, And I'll rise like the break of dawn.”

[+ sniper]

The way some of you are talking, if this really is a therapeutic-only marketed provider, versus someone who is advertising on masseurfinder or the like, I think you are being rude to your provider if you are going out of your way to expose yourself and then hoping the towel falls off your erection.

[+ sniper]

I mean if they are on m4m massage sites even if they say therapeutic, they've seen it all before and know the score. But if you're at a hotel spa and pulling this stuff, I think you are overstepping.

[thedanNYC]

I mean if they are on m4m massage sites even if they say therapeutic, they've seen it all before and know the score. But if you're at a hotel spa and pulling this stuff, I think you are overstepping.

 

I agree with that. If you ask the wrong person, they might go into the massage thinking you're likely a creep. And then an erection or unintentional brush against the masseur/masseuse (say, as you go to scratch yourself) could be perceived as very inappropriate, as opposed to unintentional.

[Redwine56]

The way some of you are talking, if this really is a therapeutic-only marketed provider, versus someone who is advertising on masseurfinder or the like, I think you are being rude to your provider if you are going out of your way to expose yourself and then hoping the towel falls off your erection.

Sniper - you are absolutely correct. The way you stated it gave me a chuckle. I think it is fair to say that the expectations for a message at a first rate hotel vs. A message from a private masseur or men's spa may be very different. Also, I believe repeat visits after trust is created between masseur and guest may allow for less bedding.

[dfwmassagelover]

When I go to a spa, which is seldom, I just go with the rules. One straight masseur I go to says in his ad drape optional. Of course I said no drape. I think a drape restricts to flow on long body strokes and just takes time readjusting the drape. The first time I went to another straight masseur at his house I just started undressing in front of him and he said I guess you don't need a drape. Most masseurs that have their on studio could care less about the drape.

[MisterMike]

In the USA, draping is required by law. Any actually certified/licensed massage therapist who fails to drape, may have their certificate/license revoked, lose their job, or even face charges if they're caught. It all depends on where they work.

Please cite the case law to back up your claim. Is it a federal law? State? Local?

[+ EVdude]

I’ll never forget my first straight non-male spa experience. I won a raffle for a massage at Chelsea Piers. Arrive, given a robe and shown to a changing room, escorted to my massage room, told that my masseur would arrive shorty so get comfortable on the table, she leaves, I disrobe and hop on table ignoring the large plush towel on the table, masseur comes in and totally freaks out seeing my naked ass. It was so over the top. I told him no one said anything. He covers me with this too heavy towel then jabs me in the shoulder and says “see that sign”. Couldn’t enjoy anything after that.

[LivingnLA]

Please cite the case law to back up your claim. Is it a federal law? State? Local?

 

It is not Federal as far as I know. Massage is regulated state by state and even some cities and counties have regulations too. Also, I believe the national professional organizations and the national standard testing body also have a "code of ethics" or professional standards that each person signs and is supposed to uphold to grow the profession.

 

Here's from the regulations for a city in the State of California:

5.40.070 paragraph M: The patron’s genitals, pubic area, anus, and female patron’s breasts below a point immediately above the top of the areola must be fully draped at all times while any employee of the business or establishment is in the massage therapy room or cubicle with the patron. No massage therapy shall be provided to a patron that results in intentional contact, or occasional and repetitive contact with the genitals, anus, or areola of a patron.

 

Here's the relevant part of New York's:

the provisions of Section 29.1(b)(5) of this Part prohibiting immoral conduct shall apply in the practice of massage therapy. Massage of genital areas and massage of a client who is not properly draped for massage, or by a massage therapist who is not properly dressed, shall be considered immoral conduct;

 

It looks like Texas allows draping to be optional for adults if it's in writing and client consent is clearly documented. The exception is for minors, who must be draped.

 

Here's a link to all the other states. Feel free to check the states relevant to you. Maybe they don't explicitly mention draping like many big states seem to do.

 

https://www.abmp.com/practitioners/state-requirements

 

Last year in Alaska a MT was fired and charged because of his "inappropriate contact and poor draping."

 

And here's a site that discusses accusations against other MTs and how risky it is for MTs to work undraped, because all it takes is one client complaining to lead to problems.

 

http://www.massagetherapistaccused.com/

 

Here's an article from that same professional organization talking about draping and how nowadays it's pretty much the national standard. Thanks for asking about this topic. I'll try to clarify my comment above.

 

http://www.massagetherapy.com/articles/index.php/article_id/1772/Draping:-Uncovering-A-Touchy-Subject

Edited December 9, 2017 by LivingnLA