Hiring from out-of-state

[Milo Farnsworth]

What is the proper protocol for hiring one or a couple from another state? I assume pay airfare and all expenses. How do you protect yourself from a no-show scammer? I'm thinking of Tyler and Ace.

[+ José Soplanucas]

What is the proper protocol for hiring one or a couple from another state? I assume pay airfare and all expenses. How do you protect yourself from a no-show scammer? I'm thinking of Tyler and Ace.

 

Why are you concerned about being scammed? You are safe with those two. Just talk to them and discuss the arrangements. I think they participate here. @TylerandAce

[Milo Farnsworth]

I think Ace and Tyler are trusted. It's just you never know.

[+ lookingforfunny]

They seem like really amazing guys @TylerandAce

I would take the plunge and have fun with them.

[+ TylerandAce]

Hi guys-

Thanks for the support and the interest! Totally understand about the threat of scam. It's a big commitment and a financial risk on a client's part. I suppose there is no sure-fire guarantee, but we take our reputation seriously and treat any agreement like a professional contract. Happy to talk out the details in private if you like. We don't ask for reviews here due to legal issues, but happily there are a few guys here who can vouch for us .

XO

Ace

[Epigonos]

I can and gladly do vouch for Tyler and Ace. They are two great guy who are TOTALLY trustworthy. Whatever arrangements they make with a new client they WILL honor - that is fact NOT opinion.

[BluDay]

Not having met them, @TylerandAce seem like no worries. But it's a valid question. It's one thing if a companion doesn't show up to your hotel for whatever reason, but to have put out serious money for time and travel, and the companion not to show is expensive. In some businesses (not this one as far as I know), you could put the money in an escrow account and release it at some point. Where that would be nice I don't see it as possible here. So short of such a well regarded couple, what could you to to be sure the man showed up?

 

I'm excluding not having chemistry from my question, although I'll grant it's a risk. And the reason I leave first visits to an hour.

[+ Gar1eth]

I used to try to book flights on Southwest as if the guy didn’t show up, I could either use the tickets myself or get a refund. It’s more difficult even on Southwest now as if you don’t cancel the trip before the flight leaves, you lose the money. So I don’t know that there’s a good solution nowadays other than to use well-known guys-or to travel to them rather than bring them to you.

 

Gman

[big-n-tall]

A good number of my hires were of guys I brought in. I’ve only had one no show time waster (who has been much discussed on the board). Of those I brought... who came, all were great fun.

 

Tyler and Ace are upstanding guys and valued members of the forum. If you plan to bring them to you... I have no doubt you’ll won’t have issue with them showing up.

Edited December 6, 2017 by big-n-tall

[+ lookingforfunny]

Safest bet if you travel to their [insert name(s)] city and treat yourself to a getaway. If they no show, you still have options. In the end, you deserve to get away and check out a new market. I am beginning to like the idea of booking a few hours "tonight" and a few hours "tomorrow." Eliminates wasted babysitting time. You also get to feel out "tonight" and keep or cancel "tomorrow" as a result.

[+ TylerandAce]

Safest bet if you travel to their [insert name(s)] city and treat yourself to a getaway. If they no show, you still have options. In the end, you deserve to get away and check out a new market. I am beginning to like the idea of booking a few hours "tonight" and a few hours "tomorrow." Eliminates wasted babysitting time. You also get to feel out "tonight" and keep or cancel "tomorrow" as

Safest bet if you travel to their [insert name(s)] city and treat yourself to a getaway. If they no show, you still have options. In the end, you deserve to get away and check out a new market. I am beginning to like the idea of booking a few hours "tonight" and a few hours "tomorrow." Eliminates wasted babysitting time. You also get to feel out "tonight" and keep or cancel "tomorrow" as a result.

We happily play tour guide to all the best Bar-b-que joints in town!! Lol

[+ lookingforfunny]

We happily play tour guide to all the best Bar-b-que joints in town!! Lol

This has become a more recent angle on my part to expand options and reduce uncertainty. Pork Roast!

[+ m_writer]

Actually, I'm also interested in how to fly in an escort out of state.

 

So I take it when you buy the plane ticket, you pay for it but put the ticket under the escort's name when you settle on a time to fly in and out, correct? And have the ticket sent to their e-mail correct?

 

Then is there any advice I should know about buying the airfare the ticket besides looking at the refund policy in case the escort needs to cancel? Is it reasonable to buy a fairly priced ticket that does a layover as opposed to non-stop due to needing to save money? Or would an escort take offense to that?

[+ Gar1eth]

Actually, I'm also interested in how to fly in an escort out of state.

 

So I take it when you buy the plane ticket, you pay for it but put the ticket under the escort's name when you settle on a time to fly in and out, correct? And have the ticket sent to their e-mail correct?

 

Then is there any advice I should know about buying the airfare the ticket besides looking at the refund policy in case the escort needs to cancel? Is it reasonable to buy a fairly priced ticket that does a layover as opposed to non-stop due to needing to save money? Or would an escort take offense to that?

 

In my experience, flights with layovers can sometimes cost as much or more as direct flights. As for whether you should book a layover, sometimes it’s necessary depending on where you live. For example, I once lived in Corpus Christi, Texas. Unless I was bringing someone to me from Texas, there was almost always going to be stopover in either Dallas or Houston. As for whether you should book a flight with a stopover when you could, book a non-stop, you have to gauge the expense vs the escort’s comfort. I certainly wouldn’t book a stopover of two hours or more unless I had to. Remember flying all day can be exhausting. If the escort is all tired out because of an arduous flight schedule, you are adding factors that might lead to a less than successful meeting.

 

Take an average weekend hire. The escort comes in on a Friday and leaves on a Sunday. You are going to have less than 48 hours of actual face time due to flight schedules. If the escort is exhausted by the flights, that’s just less quality time you have to spend with them.

 

Gman

Edited December 7, 2017 by Gar1eth

[+ m_writer]

Actually, thank you. I didn't consider that. And I don't want the escort to be exhausted.

[big-n-tall]

Actually, I'm also interested in how to fly in an escort out of state.

 

So I take it when you buy the plane ticket, you pay for it but put the ticket under the escort's name when you settle on a time to fly in and out, correct? And have the ticket sent to their e-mail correct?

 

Then is there any advice I should know about buying the airfare the ticket besides looking at the refund policy in case the escort needs to cancel? Is it reasonable to buy a fairly priced ticket that does a layover as opposed to non-stop due to needing to save money? Or would an escort take offense to that?

 

Besides what Gman said, you also need to talk with the escort to see what he’s comfortable with when buying a ticket. I don’t know if all airlines require it (I mainly use Southwest) but you need the name and date of birth of someone you’re buying a ticket for. During security check a person’s Id is used to verify the person and the name on the ticket. You can’t use a stage name when buying a ticket. The escort may not get through security.

 

If the escort has never met you, he may be uncomfortable giving you his real name. Most of the guys I brought in didn’t hesitate to give me whatever info I needed to get them a ticket. A few bought the ticket on their own and I reimbursed them for it. Fewer still asked me to send them the money for the ticket first as I sign of good faith. Those who asked to be sent the money first, we had to have a fair amount of communication before I’d agree to it.

[+ Gar1eth]

Besides what Gman said, you also need to talk with the escort to see what he’s comfortable with when buying a ticket. I don’t know if all airlines require it (I mainly use Southwest) but you need the name and date of birth of someone you’re buying a ticket for. During security check a person’s Id is used to verify the person and the name on the ticket. You can’t use a stage name when buying a ticket. The escort may not get through security.

 

If the escort has never met you, he may be uncomfortable giving you his real name. Most of the guys I brought in didn’t hesitate to give me whatever info I needed to get them a ticket. A few bought the ticket on their own and I reimbursed them for it. Fewer still asked me to send them the money for the ticket first as I sign of good faith. Those who asked to be sent the money first, we had to have a fair amount of communication before I’d agree to it.

 

 

The only person I can think of right off the bat in all my years of hiring that I actually ended up hiring who wouldn’t give me his personal info and wanted to make the reservations himself was Steven Draker. That probably should have been a warning sign that I shouldn’t have done it.

 

Actually, I'm also interested in how to fly in an escort out of state.

 

So I take it when you buy the plane ticket, you pay for it but put the ticket under the escort's name when you settle on a time to fly in and out, correct? And have the ticket sent to their e-mail correct?

 

 

 

As for emailing the tickets, I usually cut and pasted the pertinent info and then emailed the ticket to the escort myself. If I had the airline send the email, it often had some of my personal information that I preferred not sending to the escort-things like my name and possibly my address. I usually had a nom-de-hiring name that I used with the escort prior to hiring. Once we actually met, I had no problems with telling them my name, but I was careful beforehand.

 

Gman

[BabyBoomer]

The only person I can think of right off the bat in all my years of hiring that I actually ended up hiring who wouldn’t give me his personal info and wanted to make the reservations himself was Steven Draker. That probably should have been a warning sign that I shouldn’t have done it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gman

 

 

~Boomer~