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I swear....

 

Nothing annoys me more than a "Client" who pretend's he's Interested. You make an Appointment. Then "Something comes up". You Reschedule...and In the meantime he plays 25 Questions on your phone. You answer all of his Questions politely and In a Prompt manner...and STILL you never end up meeting the guy anyways.

 

 

I'm noticing now more than ever that People who tend to play 25 Questions...as If You dont have a life and should devote all of your time, Attention to them.... Usually are the ones who aren't really serious about meeting

 

Anyways. I know some of You Client's might think It's rude if we dont go Full Throttle engaging In an Email but this is only because we Have learned how to weed out the Troll's.

 

 

Ok I'm done Ranting. I just cant with the Fake's...

 

 

 

What's everyone else's Pet Peeves?;)

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Pet Peeves:

 

Those who paint with broad brushes.

 

I dont know if anyone's compiled the statistics... but I'd guestimate that at least 50% of the posts here reveal that there's some caution regarding an escort. Maybe they're a total fake; scammer or even dangerous. Maybe they're just fudging age a little, or using genuine but not representative photos. Certainly those who are relatively disinterested don't advertise "I'm just going to go through the motions with no passion or fun whatsoever."

 

Despite these repeated examples, I choose not to project that all escorts are fakes, dishonest, etc.

 

I even choose not to believe that all Republican members of Congress are mean-spirited, despite evidence displayed by many. (whew.. that was difficult to type.)

 

Generalizations are one of my pet peeves.

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Self righteous people who comment on a post before reading just to hear themselves talk. Jock123 post labeled "that guy" only refers to one type of client. His paint stroke was anything but broad.

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Self righteous people who comment on a post before reading just to hear themselves talk. Jock123 post labeled "that guy" only refers to one type of client. His paint stroke was anything but broad.

 

I did not read his post that way. @LaffingBear complains about generalizations and @Jock123 is not making one. Both are sharing their pet peeves. Right?

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Self righteous people who comment on a post before reading just to hear themselves talk. Jock123 post labeled "that guy" only refers to one type of client. His paint stroke was anything but broad.

Couldn't agree with you more! I'll add that people who fail to understand the post they read before replying are a pet-peeve. As @latbear4blk stated:

 

I did not read his post that way. @LaffingBear complains about generalizations and @Jock123 is not making one. Both are sharing their pet peeves. Right?

To answer your question, @latbear4blk , Right!

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I am also against generalizing, but I do not see where @Jock123 did so. He was not saying all prospective clients waste his time, but was rather complaining about those who do. This is a repeated complaint of our professional companions, so I have little doubt that it occurs with some frequency. Unfortunately, I am not sure there is a very good solution.

 

Personally, I can say that I have never cancelled or missed an appointment once made, and I try hard to avoid spending any more of my companions’ time on pre-meeting communications than necessary. For me, it is usually limited to a few emails or texts about logistical matters. I also note that as @Kevin Slater has often pointed out, the odds of booking seem to be inversely proportional to the amount of contact required by the prospect beforehand. https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/how-much-pre-booking-talk-is-too-much-before-you-get-frustrated.108978/, https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/too-many-questions.120122/. Certainly, before clients complain about what they perceive as high hourly rates, they should remember that the hourly rate that is charged reflects not only the time spent in person, but also all the time that must be spent in pre-meeting set-up/prep and running the business as a general matter.

 

On the other hand, I think escorts would do well to recognize and accept that they will inevitably need to spend some time following up with prospects that in the end does not lead to anything. By analogy, many contractors have to spend time giving estimates in order to get customers, but if their bids are not accepted, the time they spent is just a loss that they absorb. While I’m sure it’s annoying to them, they understand that there will be a few dead ends for every deal that pays off, and they build this into their business model. The most successful businesspeople figure out a way to minimize such overhead costs and spend their limited time to maximum effect.

 

In this context, a few things I might suggest would be:

 

1. Develop standard answers to FAQ and figure out how to cut and paste them into texts or emails. Texts seem fast and convenient, but texting letter by letter can really add up.

 

2. You may be able to refer them back to your ad for some questions. Cut and paste: “Thanks for reaching out to me. I am actually in the middle of some things right now…maybe you could check my ad again and then let me know if you have more questions that aren’t addressed there. Thanks!”

 

3. Develop a sense early on about whether someone is starting to use too much of your time and try to politely move them along somehow. For example, cut and paste: “I am definitely interested in meeting and am happy to try to answer your questions, but just to make this more efficient for us both, can you please send me all your questions at once?”

 

4. In the end, if you realize this prospect is more trouble than he is worth, I suppose you could always just slow down your responses to a pace that is not inconvenient or just stop communicating with them entirely. I would give them some kind of warning first though, like “I’ve tried to answer your questions, but I really need to wrap this up. If you are ready to make a decision that you would like to meet, let me know. Otherwise, I just don’t think we’re going to be a good match, but good luck to you.”

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There are several clients on here who berate professionals at every chance they get. Why? Because most pros wont hit back for fear of being badmouthed here by the cackle.

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There are several clients on here who berate professionals at every chance they get. Why? Because most pros wont hit back for fear of being badmouthed here by the cackle.

 

It does happen on both sides.

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There are several clients on here who berate professionals at every chance they get. Why? Because most pros wont hit back for fear of being badmouthed here by the cackle.

 

Let's not frame this problem as clients vs. providers. I know I have made unfair generalizations, I know no matter how vigilant I may be, I will sin again. So let's just help each other by friendly confronting the fallacy when we see it in others, and friendly apologizing when we are caught in one.

 

Now, there are those who are tireless bigots and haters. Let's just ignore those.

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Those who paint with broad brushes.

 

I even choose not to believe that all Republican members of Congress are mean-spirited, despite evidence displayed by many. (whew.. that was difficult to type.)

Perhaps I don't fully understand the idiom "paint with a broad brush." I understood it to mean a generalization that would imply a majority but does not exclude the existence of exceptions.

 

I guess my pet peeve would be when people try to make the exception the rule. Yes, there are a few decent Republicans in Congress, but that does not change the fact that the majority are indeed mean-spirited, self-serving assholes willing to put party before country. That's a broad brush that I'll stand behind. :)

 

Same actually goes with Jock's original post. Virtually every escort that has ever commented on the phenomenon says that the number of successful meetups is generally inverse to the number of communications prior to the meeting. I don't think it's necessarily born out of a belief that the escort has no life, but it demonstrates a lack of experience and confidence on the client side. It really shouldn't take more than a couple communications to determine if you're a good match and a couple more to set a specific date.

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There are several clients on here who berate professionals at every chance they get. Why? Because most pros wont hit back for fear of being badmouthed here by the cackle.

Most of us clients are wise enough to catch on to those numbskulls and tune them out. And still hire the good guys.

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I do like to email back and forth a bit (though I don't think I'm by far a "25 questions" kind of guy, lol) - often I hire with a roleplay/fantasy scenario in mind, or otherwise specific stuff (I don't hire just for a quick fuck, lol - I like a little more substance and connection in a session), so I do want to make sure that the escort understands what I'm looking for, and also, much more importantly, that I can sense that he's generally imaginative and responsive - again, if the responses I get back are consistently of the "sup, wut r u into" variety, I tend to think we're not going to relate well in person, lol. So I do look for an escort than can, and is willing to, actually express himself. I know that can be done on the phone as well - I like to start with email and then cap things off with a phone call once things feel comfortable.

 

If early on I feel the connection isn't happening, I'll end things there. I wouldn't make an appointment unless I was committing to it.

 

Now - things do come up, and I've had a few times where it was the escort who had to reschedule - and usually that's worked out fine. As far as I can remember, I've only had one time where I needed to postpone, and that was the night after the election last November. I emailed the escort and just told him that I simply was too depressed and angry and shocked about the election, and that I didn't think I'd enjoy the sex. He agreed to reschedule, but he also said that if I wanted, he'd drop by and hang out - for free - if I wanted someone to talk to, commiserate with, etc. I took him up on that, and it was a nice evening with a very friendly guy. We did later meet for sex when it seemed like a better time.

 

One of the reasons I brought up that last encounter was this - I certainly wouldn't expect most escorts to offer free "perusal" time such as that - however, that chance to meet that guy "off hours" and knowing it would just be a platonic session (well, except for a few minutes of kissing at the end, lol) helped me get so much more comfortable with him, so that the sexual encounter later was most likely so much better than it might even have been originally. That seems like an obvious thing to say, lol, but it's not something that us clients get to do - have a way to really get comfortable with someone before the hookup - unless of course it's a full evening or overnight situation. (But I rarely if ever have the funds to do anything that long, lol.)

 

So - I would just say that some of us that get a little talkative are doing it for the best of intentions, not to take advantage of an escort's time. However, I totally understand why an escort would not want to indulge in too much conversation with someone that might just fink out on them, lol.

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Personally, I can say that I have never cancelled or missed an appointment once made

I'm in the same camp. Once I commit, I don't cancel. However, I like using email to test chemistry. Other than actually meeting a guy, I don't know another way to get a feel for the guy's personality, sense of humor, likes/dislikes, etc. Good communication is the same as good foreplay with me. Every guy I've hooked up with proved to me in an email that he would be worth my time and money.

 

I've said it other posts, if email is not your thing, then I won't consider doing business with you. I absolutely hate cell phones. I hate the quality of the sound and the quality of transmission. If I'm talking about the potential of sex, I want a clear discussion. For me, communication does not get more clear than email or a landline. But on a landline, I often have no privacy.

 

There will always be time wasters in the escort business. There are a lot of men who get tempted, but for one reason or another, can't seem to follow through. Showing patience, no matter how difficult that can be for an escort, is never a turn off. However, showing impatience can ruin a service business.

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I don't think it's necessarily born out of a belief that the escort has no life, but it demonstrates a lack of experience and confidence on the client side.

Maybe, but...I try not to reach the level of “That Guy,”, but I do tend to ask a lot of questions if I’m trying to determine if I really want to hire the guy. I try to give the escort the opportunity to answer in such a way that makes me feel meeting him is going to be fun. Sometimes, it just doesn’t happen.

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I'm noticing now more than ever that People who tend to play 25 Questions...as If You dont have a life and should devote all of your time, Attention to them.... Usually are the ones who aren't really serious about meeting

I was sharing a pet peeve. But in the interest of fairness, I was also inferring, and perhaps inaccurately.d8f85de506732c51766f5bc5a4a5fdf9.jpg

I apologize again for all my shortcomings.

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It really shouldn't take more than a couple communications to determine if you're a good match and a couple more to set a specific date.

Right!

 

I contacted my fist hire a month out. We tentatively set it up and said we'd reconnect when the date got closer.

 

My plans changed so I contacted him close to the original date and got a "uh.....who are you again?" response (which I now know was probably just due assuming I was a time waster and not a serious client). I just reminded him, we set and date, and it went very well. :)

 

I wasn't fazed by the "who are you again?" question. I guess I was lucky enough to realize that this escort's world didn't revolve around me--until we were in a session together! ;)

 

Keep the communication brief--a pro has to deal with an astounding amount of communication! And don't take an imperfect communication personally.

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I contacted my fist hire a month out.

 

I do assume you meant "first." But if not, I suppose that gave both of you a month to get ready for the fisting session? :D

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I do assume you meant "first." But if not, I suppose that gave both of you a month to get ready for the fisting session? :D

 

lol

 

You are correct.

 

I even edited that post 3 times to fix typos. :p

 

I would need a lifetime to prepare for that--if I'm wearing the red hanky on the right.

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pet peeve - random capitalizations ;)

 

My pet peeve is "computer speak" along with terrible spelling/grammar. Granted, anyone can make a mistake here and there, but it's clear when someone just really can't spell, etc. If I get "wats ur adress" or multiple references to "niples" (that's happened) or maybe the worst thing - run-on sentences with no commas or other punctuation - I just tend to give up. I find intelligence sexy. And my apologies to guys that I've missed out on who just can't type well, lol. My loss.

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I guess my pet peeve would be when people try to make the exception the rule. Yes, there are a few decent Republicans in Congress, but that does not change the fact that the majority are indeed mean-spirited, self-serving assholes willing to put party before country. That's a broad brush that I'll stand behind. :)

Some say ALL politicians are bottle babies, they weren't breast fed and nurtured as children, so they turn their narcissistic needs outward and run for political office to find nurture and acceptance. But in order to find it they have to prostrate themselves to special interests and every voter they meet, making them even more narcissistic. As evidence of the theory, may I cite only one example? Bill Clinton.

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