IML - Mr. S Leather Brown Bottle

[jonnychgo]

So I bought some brown bottle "cleaner" at the Mr. S Leather booth this weekend at IML. I got the card showing that they had to find new supplier, etc. so I figured probably not the same as old.

 

Well, I opened one bottle and tried it. NOTHING. Barely even a smell. Thought perhaps I should wait a day as perhaps my senses needed to clear. Again, NOTHING. No effect. Waited a couple of days and tried a third time. Again, NOTHING.

 

Did anyone else purchase and if so what are your results. I'm REALLY pissed.

[+ WmClarke]

I know someone else who bought some. I'll ask him.

[Rudynate]

Quite a while ago, - 5 years or more - the Mr. S brown bottle was an outstanding product. When the legal climate changed, they stopped selling it. They found another supplier, but the new version was a lousy product, definitely not worth the money they were charging for it. I think I have just about decided that it isn't possible to buy good poppers anymore. Not long ago, I got together with a guy who is a chemical engineer and makes his own. His were pretty good, but still not like the poppers of the 70s and 80s.

[+ poolboy48220]

For the past few years I've gone with Jungle Juice platinum, and also like some of the spray-can version (I think it's called Maximum Impact).

[+ pitman]

For the past few years I've gone with Jungle Juice platinum, and also like some of the spray-can version (I think it's called Maximum Impact).

Maximum Impact and other spray-can products are not poppers. They contain ethyl chloride and carry more risk than traditional poppers. I have no experience with the spray-can products, but would welcome comments from others regarding these products.

 

http://betablog.org/poppers-not-poppers/

[Phil_musc]

I would second the above recommendation for Jungle Juice Platinum (in the larger bottle). But I would also say buyer beware - quality control is somewhat haphazard.

 

I don't do well on the maximum impact stuff - just too intense for me.

[+ OliverSaks]

@Eric Hassan,

 

Care to enlighten us?

[Rudynate]

Maximum Impact and other spray-can products are not poppers. They contain ethyl chloride and carry more risk than traditional poppers. I have no experience with the spray-can products, but would welcome comments from others regarding these products.

 

http://betablog.org/poppers-not-poppers/

 

You have to use some restraint with ethyl because it can knock you out. It used to be used as a general anesthetic. Used sparingly, it is a lot of fun.

[handiacefailure]

Don't use poppers but I'm surprised Mr S would sell anything subpar. I have a couple toys from there and their prices are high but worth paying more for since they always have quality stuff

[Rudynate]

Don't use poppers but I'm surprised Mr S would sell anything subpar. I have a couple toys from there and their prices are high but worth paying more for since they always have quality stuff

 

Pick up a bottle. I promise you will be disappointed.

[handiacefailure]

I'd try contacting them. They seem like the type of business that would stand behind their products they sell.

[Rudynate]

I'd try contacting them. They seem like the type of business that would stand behind their products they sell.

 

 

Simpler just not to buy it.

[handiacefailure]

Simpler just not to buy it.

Agree. But if you already spent the money may as well try to get a refund.

[Rudynate]

The brown bottle is weird. It's a strictly cash trasaction. They don't record it and they keep the cash from brown bottle sales segregated from their other receipts. So it's sort of quasi legal or quasi illegal and they don't want a paper trail.

[jonnychgo]

Actually I was able to charge it so I do have a receipt from them. Though the receipt only says I charged xxx to them not the product, so perhaps @Rudynate is correct.

[+ WmClarke]

Same here--I charged it when I bought a bottle for a friend. Who was disappointed in the product.

[handiacefailure]

I'd contact mr s and they may do a refund. They use to justify their high prices by claiming to have top of the line merchandise. If they realize how

Many people are dissatisfied they'll probably stop carrying the product

[+ Eric Hassan]

@Eric Hassan,

 

Care to enlighten us?

 

oh so much to say ...

 

the long and short of it is that ethyl chloride (maximum impact) is not in the same chemical class as most of what is sold as poppers, which are all alkyl nitrites. but, they are sold as poppers and people use them as poppers, so call it what you will, but people are still huffing these substances for the high.

 

the legal status in the US is pretty clear. amyl nitrite - the "original" poppers - are available (legally) by prescription only. the other alkyl nitrites are legally sold for commercial purposes. thus, they get labeled for things like cleaning video heads, removing nail polish, and odorizing rooms. personal use - huffing them - is illegal. the legal status in other countries tends to be variations on that theme.

 

because they are legally manufactured and sold for commercial purposes, there aren't the same standards and oversight that you would find in a product being made for personal use, so companies don't have to disclose what they put in the bottle and they don't even have to use nitrites - i've seen bottles sold over-the-counter lately that are labeled as having 85% alcohol. of course, it's not a good idea for a company to put something very dangerous in the bottle if they want to keep selling them.

 

what you might be able to get under-the-counter at some shops or via personal connections - often spoken of as "the good stuff" - is likely amyl nitrite (which, as stated above, is prescription only - and is mostly used these days to treat cyanide poisoning) and it's likely that a bust of some kind is what changes what's available from those outlets.

 

my best advice to people is to buy poppers from a reliable online source. this way, you are dealing with a company that has an interest in making a quality product because they want your continued business. i don't have solid facts to back this up, but i imagine they want to be super careful and probably have a higher quality control than a company manufacturing bottles to sell in a sex shop. i'm actually working right now on trying a bunch of online outlets to review products as well as asking other poppers users about their experiences and reviews.

 

also, check out my "poppers 101" - which is the start of a larger resource and information guide i am working on - http://thedudenextdoor.com/blog/poppers-101/

[whipped guy]

My unsolicited 2 cents. I have never touched them. Given the unpredictability of what is in the bottle I would not feel comfortable if someone else used them in a one on one private situation. In a club setting where there were many other individuals present I have played with guys who have used them. Interestingly most ask permission or at least inform you that they want to use them. As long as there is a phone line and the ability for someone to call 911 in such a setting it works for me.

 

Interestingly a couple of years ago at Folsom East a friend sampled a product that was supposedly imported from England. I have no clue what was in the bottle, but his face turned beet red, I swear that I saw smoke come out of his ears, and I thought that he was going to fall flat on his face. He regained his composure after a few minutes, but it was scary beyond belief.

 

If one needs a degree in chemistry to learn how to use them, or to do an analysis of what is in the bottle so as to determine their effects, then it's not worth the risk. My days as a chemist are long over... Here are some of the possibilities of what might be in the bottle and they don't even look similar! Except for the methyl group CH3 component that is. Now I have a headache. Shades of organic chem... not worth it.

 

Ethyl Chloride:

 

Amyl Nitrite:

 

 

 

Acetone: (Nail Polish Remover)

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/jmol/molecules/acetone.gif

[+ pitman]

oh so much to say ...

 

the long and short of it is that ethyl chloride (maximum impact) is not in the same chemical class as most of what is sold as poppers, which are all alkyl nitrites. but, they are sold as poppers and people use them as poppers, so call it what you will, but people are still huffing these substances for the high.

 

the legal status in the US is pretty clear. amyl nitrite - the "original" poppers - are available (legally) by prescription only. the other alkyl nitrites are legally sold for commercial purposes. thus, they get labeled for things like cleaning video heads, removing nail polish, and odorizing rooms. personal use - huffing them - is illegal. the legal status in other countries tends to be variations on that theme.

 

because they are legally manufactured and sold for commercial purposes, there aren't the same standards and oversight that you would find in a product being made for personal use, so companies don't have to disclose what they put in the bottle and they don't even have to use nitrites - i've seen bottles sold over-the-counter lately that are labeled as having 85% alcohol. of course, it's not a good idea for a company to put something very dangerous in the bottle if they want to keep selling them.

 

what you might be able to get under-the-counter at some shops or via personal connections - often spoken of as "the good stuff" - is likely amyl nitrite (which, as stated above, is prescription only - and is mostly used these days to treat cyanide poisoning) and it's likely that a bust of some kind is what changes what's available from those outlets.

 

my best advice to people is to buy poppers from a reliable online source. this way, you are dealing with a company that has an interest in making a quality product because they want your continued business. i don't have solid facts to back this up, but i imagine they want to be super careful and probably have a higher quality control than a company manufacturing bottles to sell in a sex shop. i'm actually working right now on trying a bunch of online outlets to review products as well as asking other poppers users about their experiences and reviews.

 

also, check out my "poppers 101" - which is the start of a larger resource and information guide i am working on - http://thedudenextdoor.com/blog/poppers-101/

 

Thanks for your input @Eric Hassan. I had not previously noticed the "poppers 101" on your site. Guess I was distracted by all the other interesting things there.

[Rudynate]

oh so much to say ...

 

the long and short of it is that ethyl chloride (maximum impact) is not in the same chemical class as most of what is sold as poppers, which are all alkyl nitrites. but, they are sold as poppers and people use them as poppers, so call it what you will, but people are still huffing these substances for the high.

 

the legal status in the US is pretty clear. amyl nitrite - the "original" poppers - are available (legally) by prescription only. the other alkyl nitrites are legally sold for commercial purposes. thus, they get labeled for things like cleaning video heads, removing nail polish, and odorizing rooms. personal use - huffing them - is illegal. the legal status in other countries tends to be variations on that theme.

 

because they are legally manufactured and sold for commercial purposes, there aren't the same standards and oversight that you would find in a product being made for personal use, so companies don't have to disclose what they put in the bottle and they don't even have to use nitrites - i've seen bottles sold over-the-counter lately that are labeled as having 85% alcohol. of course, it's not a good idea for a company to put something very dangerous in the bottle if they want to keep selling them.

 

what you might be able to get under-the-counter at some shops or via personal connections - often spoken of as "the good stuff" - is likely amyl nitrite (which, as stated above, is prescription only - and is mostly used these days to treat cyanide poisoning) and it's likely that a bust of some kind is what changes what's available from those outlets.

 

my best advice to people is to buy poppers from a reliable online source. this way, you are dealing with a company that has an interest in making a quality product because they want your continued business. i don't have solid facts to back this up, but i imagine they want to be super careful and probably have a higher quality control than a company manufacturing bottles to sell in a sex shop. i'm actually working right now on trying a bunch of online outlets to review products as well as asking other poppers users about their experiences and reviews.

 

also, check out my "poppers 101" - which is the start of a larger resource and information guide i am working on - http://thedudenextdoor.com/blog/poppers-101/

 

 

One of the most common nitrites found in store-bought poppers is isopropyl nitrite. Poppers containing isopropyl nitrite have been linked to retinal damage.

[Rudynate]

oh so much to say ...

 

the long and short of it is that ethyl chloride (maximum impact) is not in the same chemical class as most of what is sold as poppers, which are all alkyl nitrites. but, they are sold as poppers and people use them as poppers, so call it what you will, but people are still huffing these substances for the high.

 

the legal status in the US is pretty clear. amyl nitrite - the "original" poppers - are available (legally) by prescription only. the other alkyl nitrites are legally sold for commercial purposes. thus, they get labeled for things like cleaning video heads, removing nail polish, and odorizing rooms. personal use - huffing them - is illegal. the legal status in other countries tends to be variations on that theme.

 

because they are legally manufactured and sold for commercial purposes, there aren't the same standards and oversight that you would find in a product being made for personal use, so companies don't have to disclose what they put in the bottle and they don't even have to use nitrites - i've seen bottles sold over-the-counter lately that are labeled as having 85% alcohol. of course, it's not a good idea for a company to put something very dangerous in the bottle if they want to keep selling them.

 

what you might be able to get under-the-counter at some shops or via personal connections - often spoken of as "the good stuff" - is likely amyl nitrite (which, as stated above, is prescription only - and is mostly used these days to treat cyanide poisoning) and it's likely that a bust of some kind is what changes what's available from those outlets.

 

my best advice to people is to buy poppers from a reliable online source. this way, you are dealing with a company that has an interest in making a quality product because they want your continued business. i don't have solid facts to back this up, but i imagine they want to be super careful and probably have a higher quality control than a company manufacturing bottles to sell in a sex shop. i'm actually working right now on trying a bunch of online outlets to review products as well as asking other poppers users about their experiences and reviews.

 

also, check out my "poppers 101" - which is the start of a larger resource and information guide i am working on - http://thedudenextdoor.com/blog/poppers-101/

 

 

Prescription amyl nitrite is actually isoamyl nitrite, one of several isomers of amyl nitrite. Isoamyl nitrite is the only isomer that is a prescription drug, the others have the same legal status as other alkyl nitrites.

 

Some of the better store-bought poppers may be n-amyl nitrite, a different isomer of amyl nitrite.

[RandyC]

Anyone got a good source for poppers in NYC?

[whipped guy]

Anyone got a good source for poppers in NYC?

Well as per my post earlier in this thread I am not the person to ask, but a couple of years ago I was at the Leatherman on Christopher Street in NYC with a friend who asked about poppers and at least then they were not selling them there because of all the uncertainly of what was in the formulations. I am not sure if that has changed or not because I have had no reason to ask since then. But you might want to give them a shout as they deal in quality products. However, my guess would be that possibly the other sex shops in the West Village/Christopher Street (London etc.) or Chelsea (The Blue Store etc.) might deal with them and there a quite a few to choose from!

 

From what I gather most guys buy online.

[Rudynate]

There is a new brand available nationally called "Double Scorpio." Not bad at all, certainly better than most of the ones currently available. I read recently that it is becoming commonplace for people to make their own.