Is 5K enough to offer a straight guy for muscle worship?

[jockstr]

Hey guys. Title pretty much says it all. I'd like to ask a straight guy (mid-20's, not an escort) for a strictly muscle worship experience. Also, is there a less creepy way of saying muscle worship? It sounds so subservient and pervy; I'm concerned the name alone might turn him off if he's not familiar with it.

[+ Truereview]

The magic is not in the the dollar figure;

It is in how you ask.

Good luck!

[slightly]

5k sounds like a lot to me for muscle worship, but I guess if he really floats your boat and you have that money, then have at it! I guess if I was in your position and inclination, I would start of vague, and not launching into an exact amount like in that film Indecent Proposal. Strike up the convo, build rapport, and subtly throw in hints just to get his general reaction to you? I suppose it's all about the context as to how you know this guy.

 

If you're going ahead with this, you're definitely a braver man than I am

[BaronArtz]

5K is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much, I agree.

 

It all depends how you know this guy - if indeed he doesn't escort. Is he a friend? Have you had conversations with him before? Do you go to the same gym? Do you seem him regularly in another social setting? Will it be awkward for both of you if the answer is 'no'?

 

If you feel there is a good probability that there will be no awkwardness, you can say something like 'you know training and supplements cost a lot of money. Has he considered being sponsored?' If yes, you could say you are interested in a 'private training session' and take it from there. All of this is a bit creepy and stalker-ish though. Just be careful and tactful.

 

Why not go for an escort who advertises as being available for muscle worship and take it from there? It will cost you a lot less than 5K!

[caliguy]

Hey guys. Title pretty much says it all. I'd like to ask a straight guy (mid-20's, not an escort) for a strictly muscle worship experience. Also, is there a less creepy way of saying muscle worship? It sounds so subservient and pervy; I'm concerned the name alone might turn him off if he's not familiar with it.

Oh come on. Is $5,000 enough? Lol Especially funny when there's plenty of "straight guys" that would be ok with it for $300.

[slightly]

Ooooh this post reminds of another that I stumbled on in my lurker days...I wonder if I can find it?

[jockstr]

A bit more on the situation: I've never met the guy. I just came across him on Instagram. He is quite possibly the best looking guy EVER. He's done some modeling on the side but it's not his primary job. Seems like an otherwise regular guy with impeccable genetics. Since I don't know him at all, I feel like casually reaching out over social media to test the waters would be very awkward. That's why I was leaning towards just spelling everything out in the first message. But that could backfire too.

[+ sync]

For me, a $5,000 venture is big business, and I would approach it in a very business-like manner. I would open with "are you aware of the lucrative muscle worship catering market?" His initial reaction should be a clear indication whether or not to pursue negotiations.

 

Good luck.

[caliguy]

A bit more on the situation: I've never met the guy. I just came across him on Instagram. He is quite possibly the best looking guy EVER. He's done some modeling on the side but it's not his primary job. Seems like an otherwise regular guy with impeccable genetics. Since I don't know him at all, I feel like casually reaching out over social media to test the waters would be very awkward. That's why I was leaning towards just spelling everything out in the first message. But that could backfire too.

I think you should go back to that recent burglary felon. A straight bad boy felon. What's hotter then that? I agree with the others though. Just don't bring any cash. He might forget why he's there.

[jockstr]

Ooooh this post reminds of another that I stumbled on in my lurker days...I wonder if I can find it?

 

If you're making a veiled reference to another post of mine, touché lol. However, this is a different situation and I'm genuinely trying to solicit real advice, not just draw attention. Incidentally, I was able to convince the other guy to meet but ended up chickening out due to his criminal record.

[slightly]

Oooooooh that was you with the guy and the tree? Wasn't a veiled anything at all just trying to be helpful.

[jockstr]

Oh come on. Is $5,000 enough? Lol Especially funny when there's plenty of "straight guys" that would be ok with it for $300.

 

I'm not interested in other "straight guys" that are happy to take less. Hasn't anyone here ever seen a random guy and thought, "Damn, what I wouldn't give to have a few minutes with him." The fact that he's not offering himself up makes him even more appealing.

[Epigonos]

I'm all for being direct. Tell him what you want and what you would expect from him. Then ask him if he is interested and if so what his fee would be. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. If he doesn't respond or tell you to fuck off what have you lost - nothing. It's not like you see the guy all the time and doing so might be a problem in the future

Frankly I'm with the group that thing 5k is over the top.

[Whitman]

Rich guys have such interesting problems.

[slightly]

@jockstr , I don't think it was your previous post I was referring to:

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/approaching-str8-student.103794/#post-954772

 

The situation was very different though, and I think I that case the forum consensus was against it.

[jockstr]

@jockstr , I don't think it was your previous post I was referring to:

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/approaching-str8-student.103794/#post-954772

 

The situation was very different though, and I think I that case the forum consensus was against it.

 

Gotcha. Yeah, that wasn't me. I thought you were referring to another post of mine about propositioning a straight guy with a record, as mentioned in @caliguy 's post. All good.

[jockstr]

Rich guys have such interesting problems.

 

... and then some

[gallahadesquire]

"Would you sleep with me for $1,000,000?"

"Well ... yes ... I suppose so."

"How 'bout for $50?"

"I'm not a prostitute!"

"Oh, we've determined that you are. Now we're just negotiating price."

 

Isn't this whole scenario considered soliciting? I ask merely for information.

 

"Have you considered being sponsored for your expensive supplements and gym cost" might be less illegal.

[+ azdr0710]

regarding the creepiness of the phrase "muscle worship", I sorta agree it's weird-sounding at times....other suggestions might include "private posing", "physique modeling", private modeling session" or similar....

 

start out slow, but stay to-the-point....be professional and brief....it's either yes or no.....I think he'll understand exactly what you want and will already have decided if he's comfortable with it

[+ azdr0710]

"Would you sleep with me for $1,000,000?"

"Well ... yes ... I suppose so."

"How 'bout for $50?"

"I'm not a prostitute!"

"Oh, we've determined that you are. Now we're just negotiating price."

thanks @gallahadesquire ...one of the world's classic jokes....appreciate you reminding me of it!

[jockstr]

Isn't this whole scenario considered soliciting? I ask merely for information.

 

It's not illegal because there is no expectation of sex being exchange for money. It's more along the lines of a massage. Paying someone to touch, kiss, or lick them (excluding certain areas), is not considered a sexual act. Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone.

[jockstr]

"Have you considered being sponsored for your expensive supplements and gym cost" might be less illegal.

 

Does the "sponsor" line really work? Several people have mentioned that here. Wouldn't most guys see through that?

[+ azdr0710]

wanted to add that you should tell him you are NOT a professional photog or modeling agent.....he may get those kinds of solicitations all the time

[UpDownUnder]

For $5,000, I suspect you could get him to agree to a lot more than just letting you worship his muscles. I'm thinking that's probably enough that he'd let you worship other things - up close and personal.

[UpDownUnder]

It's not illegal because there is no expectation of sex being exchange for money. It's more along the lines of a massage. Paying someone to touch, kiss, or lick them (excluding certain areas), is not considered a sexual act. Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone.

Depends on what you're touching or kissing. Most criminal prostitution statutes are written broadly enough that touching another person's privates with one's hands or mouth is considered a "sex act" for purposes of the statute.