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I think you are right. It smells like a smear campaign.

 

First of all, the OP can't post reviews in the forums. That's against the rules here - mainly because it doesn't give the escort a chance to defend himself.

 

This escort has very strict limitations and screens his clients carefully. I respect that. It shows he is not desperate. He will definitely not sell his time to just anybody with 3OO in his pocket. Because of who he is, he can be selective.

 

I hired this guy several times and never had a problem. In fact, he IS a stunning young man. And always on time. And he delivers. But he WILL cut it off with you promptly if he smells a whiff of bullshit in whatever you send him.

It is also very troubling you consider other escorts that have less limits as 'desperate'. Your boy can not fully commit to his job does not make others 'desperate'. You are one of the people trying to cover up "Colton"s plastic implants. Getting used to "Colton"s abusive treatment on clients does not entitle you to call other escorts 'desperate'.

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don't know if the OP needed to mention to "Christian" that he knows Christian has been outed....Christian no doubt knows that already and it sounds like the OP knew the ship was sinking by that point and wanted to throw in one last jab....

 

the escort's instagram, with his real name, is fairly easily found with semi-shrewd googling and image searching....and he has apparently not yet made it private or entirely closed it (as of a few days ago)....so he's comfortable, to some extent, with all this.....treat him with courtesy, maturity, discretion, professionalism, and respect (don't we do this anyway??!!) and you'll have a chance....it's been well-established that he has limits - and that's not a problem for many of us....

 

and one more thing.....getting a little deep here!......just throwing this out there for thought.....I wonder if some of the negative reviews here and at MSS are due to some sort of jealousy on the part of the clients.....here's a straight, good-looking, in-shape, well-hung, twenty-something stud who can pick and choose his suitors and has only to sit back, show off, and/or flex a bit and can command $400+/hour for the pleasure......yes, there certainly have been no-shows/no-calls and the whole gamut of valid claims against "Christian", but I wonder......coincidentally, there is another young, good-looking, charismatic "Christian" who garnered jealousy from another man a couple centuries ago....take another look at "Mutiny On The Bounty"!

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don't know if the OP needed to mention to "Christian" that he knows Christian has been outed....Christian no doubt knows that already and it sounds like the OP knew the ship was sinking by that point and wanted to throw in one last jab....

 

the escort's instagram, with his real name, is fairly easily found with semi-shrewd googling and image searching....and he has apparently not yet made it private or entirely closed it (as of a few days ago)....so he's comfortable, to some extent, with all this.....treat him with courtesy, maturity, discretion, professionalism, and respect (don't we do this anyway??!!) and you'll have a chance....it's been well-established that he has limits - and that's not a problem for many of us....

 

and one more thing.....getting a little deep here!......just throwing this out there for thought.....I wonder if some of the negative reviews here and at MSS are due to some sort of jealousy on the part of the clients.....here's a straight, good-looking, in-shape, well-hung, twenty-something stud who can pick and choose his suitors and has only to sit back, show off, and/or flex a bit and can command $400+/hour for the pleasure......yes, there certainly have been no-shows/no-calls and the whole gamut of valid claims against "Christian", but I wonder......coincidentally, there is another young, good-looking, charismatic "Christian" who garnered jealousy from another man a couple centuries ago....take another look at "Mutiny On The Bounty"!

A brand new definition of 'jealousy', if you are a client who warns fellow clients of an unethical escort's behavior of no show/no call, you are guilty of 'jealousy'! Bravo! Yet, this mind blowing definition comes from another "Colton" defender. Just like the definition of 'desperate' we saw from this same thread "if you are an escort who do not have lots and lots of limits, you are guilty of being 'desperate'." I am blown away by all the "Colton"/"Christian" defenders.

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don't know if the OP needed to mention to "Christian" that he knows Christian has been outed....Christian no doubt knows that already and it sounds like the OP knew the ship was sinking by that point and wanted to throw in one last jab....

 

the escort's instagram, with his real name, is fairly easily found with semi-shrewd googling and image searching....and he has apparently not yet made it private or entirely closed it (as of a few days ago)....so he's comfortable, to some extent, with all this.....treat him with courtesy, maturity, discretion, professionalism, and respect (don't we do this anyway??!!) and you'll have a chance....it's been well-established that he has limits - and that's not a problem for many of us....

 

and one more thing.....getting a little deep here!......just throwing this out there for thought.....I wonder if some of the negative reviews here and at MSS are due to some sort of jealousy on the part of the clients.....here's a straight, good-looking, in-shape, well-hung, twenty-something stud who can pick and choose his suitors and has only to sit back, show off, and/or flex a bit and can command $400+/hour for the pleasure......yes, there certainly have been no-shows/no-calls and the whole gamut of valid claims against "Christian", but I wonder......coincidentally, there is another young, good-looking, charismatic "Christian" who garnered jealousy from another man a couple centuries ago....take another look at "Mutiny On The Bounty"!

You should read your own post and laugh at yourself. QUOTE "here's a straight, good-looking, in-shape, well-hung, twenty-something stud who can pick and choose his suitors and has only to sit back, show off, and/or flex a bit and can command $400+/hour for the pleasure.." QUOTE. This statement is only valid for a no self-respect client who is happy with all this and return for more, like yourself. Everyone else leaves a negative review to reflect such poor performance, then never return again.

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Well, a lot has been said since I logged off after making this post yesterday... I did not expect the amount of negativity that has been thrown my way, and to be honest I'm really disappointed.

 

There was no intention of smearing this guy in making the post that I did. Let's get that straight first and foremost. Someone noted that the offending text appeared to be the first I received from him, and that I must have been hiding something or attempting to frame the guy - please. As I clearly stated in my OP, he did not reply to me again on the day before. As such, I deleted the conversation from my Messages. I had no expectation of hearing from him nor did I have any interest in writing to him further... which is (a) why his text caught me off guard yesterday and (b) why it was the first text in that conversation window.

 

I think that many of you take for granted the experience level of users on this forum. I am much younger than a lot of you, so it is not on my mind when I reach out to anyone that I may be corresponding with their "agent" or some third party/middleman. But quite frankly, I don't care who called me a faggot. I was called a faggot, and that is wrong, regardless of the sexuality of the person using the word - especially in "professional" correspondence. That so many of you became mental gymnasts for the sake of discrediting me/defending this person says a lot more about integrity and values than my original sentiments.

 

As for the removal of my post and directive to write a review - I am not contributing a review because I was not provided a service. I was made to feel uncomfortable for inquiring about a service that I had been previously told this man offered. A service that at the initial point of contact was listed in his advertisement as something on the table. That's another part of my post that seemed to go over so many of your heads - I was not harassing someone who made no mention of offering training just because I liked his body. I was making a valid inquiry about a service being advertised.

 

I was speaking to this individual personally in the beginning, and he even told me to call him by his real name - a point which further gave me no reason to assume I was not doing so when I contacted "him" at this current number (somebody implied I was using multiple numbers - not the case, as I also thought I had made clear). A point which made me feel, as someone who has been on the receiving end of vitriolic sentiments, an obligation to warn "him" of the online fodder attempting to damage his reputation and expose his means of financial gain. There was nothing threatening or unclear about the way in which I shared the link I did with "him" - but by all means, assume I got what I deserved in this scenario.

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Well, a lot has been said since I logged off after making this post yesterday... I did not expect the amount of negativity that has been thrown my way, and to be honest I'm really disappointed.

 

There was no intention of smearing this guy in making the post that I did. Let's get that straight first and foremost. Someone noted that the offending text appeared to be the first I received from him, and that I must have been hiding something or attempting to frame the guy - please. As I clearly stated in my OP, he did not reply to me again on the day before. As such, I deleted the conversation from my Messages. I had no expectation of hearing from him nor did I have any interest in writing to him further... which is (a) why his text caught me off guard yesterday and (b) why it was the first text in that conversation window.

 

I think that many of you take for granted the experience level of users on this forum. I am much younger than a lot of you, so it is not on my mind when I reach out to anyone that I may be corresponding with their "agent" or some third party/middleman. But quite frankly, I don't care who called me a faggot. I was called a faggot, and that is wrong, regardless of the sexuality of the person using the word - especially in "professional" correspondence. That so many of you became mental gymnasts for the sake of discrediting me/defending this person says a lot more about integrity and values than my original sentiments.

 

As for the removal of my post and directive to write a review - I am not contributing a review because I was not provided a service. I was made to feel uncomfortable for inquiring about a service that I had been previously told this man offered. A service that at the initial point of contact was listed in his advertisement as something on the table. That's another part of my post that seemed to go over so many of your heads - I was not harassing someone who made no mention of offering training just because I liked his body. I was making a valid inquiry about a service being advertised.

 

I was speaking to this individual personally in the beginning, and he even told me to call him by his real name - a point which further gave me no reason to assume I was not doing so when I contacted "him" at this current number (somebody implied I was using multiple numbers - not the case, as I also thought I had made clear). A point which made me feel, as someone who has been on the receiving end of vitriolic sentiments, an obligation to warn "him" of the online fodder attempting to damage his reputation and expose his means of financial gain. There was nothing threatening or unclear about the way in which I shared the link I did with "him" - but by all means, assume I got what I deserved in this scenario.

 

I don't think you did anything wrong, you shared your experience. I thought that was part of what this board was for. Plus you didn't meet, so this board is your only outlet. Now a days, if you post anything the slightest bit negative, you're attacked. I guess all the scammers are gone now. Great news hire everyone!

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I hope you don't feel attacked. I get that you are less experienced. My intention was to recommend more successful ways of interacting with escorts based on my own experience - i.e. Don't reveal you know their real identity,respect their privacy, take "no" for an answer when the answer is no. And find a trainer at equinox not on rent men. And lastly, you are not booking a room at the four seasons , you are hiring a hooker, so have realistic expectations about professionalism. I'm sure your motives were good. Sorry you got called a bad name. You're 100 % right that that is not ok. It's never ok. My interaction with him was the complete opposite of yours. We made the appointment, I showed up and he was funny and friendly totally hot. and delivered what he offered in his ad. I would hire him today if he were in LA.

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And lastly, you are not booking a room at the four seasons , you are hiring a hooker, so have realistic expectations about professionalism.

 

on point! if the op is looking for a trainer, you should go to this guy. https://rentmen.com/thegamechanger. why hire a "a dime a dozen" average muscle guy (quoted term used by fellow forum member) when you can have a true professional bodybuilder to be your trainer. the result will not be in the same league.

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"A point which made me feel, as someone who has been on the receiving end of vitriolic sentiments, an obligation to warn "him" of the online fodder attempting to damage his reputation and expose his means of financial gain. There was nothing threatening or unclear about the way in which I shared the link I did with him. "

 

And Maybe check your motives on this one - Bringing his attention to the "online fodder attempting to damage his reputation and expose his identity." Given that he had already rejected your inquiry, were you merely trying to be a Good Samaritan by coming back to him with this juicy tidbit?

 

You alone know your motivations for sharing this info with him but I think he felt it a was passive aggressive threat. And he resoonded harshly.

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Reading comprehension is really lacking in this thread. I was not looking to ask a random escort who makes no indication of offering personal training about working with me as a trainer, for the very reasons you all have repeatedly mentioned while entirely missing every point I tried making in my posts. Cristian(o) offered training when we initially spoke, I do not know how else to say this so it will be clear.

On another note, I find it very telling how this forum exists to compare notes about experiences with escorts and masseurs, in the interest of guaging levels of professionalism, accuracy, etc., but the moment someone is directly critical of an obvious fan favorite that is seen as having over inflated expectations of a "hooker".

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Reading comprehension is really lacking in this thread. I was not looking to ask a random escort who makes no indication of offering personal training about working with me as a trainer, for the very reasons you all have repeatedly mentioned while entirely missing every point I tried making in my posts. Cristian(o) offered training when we initially spoke, I do not know how else to say this so it will be clear.

On another note, I find it very telling how this forum exists to compare notes about experiences with escorts and masseurs, in the interest of guaging levels of professionalism, accuracy, etc., but the moment someone is directly critical of an obvious fan favorite that is seen as having over inflated expectations of a "hooker".

seriously, man, just forget this christian or whatever, embrace the magnificent gamechanger! you can sign up for personal training at the gym he owns.

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Well, a lot has been said since I logged off after making this post yesterday... I did not expect the amount of negativity that has been thrown my way, and to be honest I'm really disappointed.

 

There was no intention of smearing this guy in making the post that I did. Let's get that straight first and foremost. Someone noted that the offending text appeared to be the first I received from him, and that I must have been hiding something or attempting to frame the guy - please. As I clearly stated in my OP, he did not reply to me again on the day before. As such, I deleted the conversation from my Messages. I had no expectation of hearing from him nor did I have any interest in writing to him further... which is (a) why his text caught me off guard yesterday and (b) why it was the first text in that conversation window.

 

I think that many of you take for granted the experience level of users on this forum. I am much younger than a lot of you, so it is not on my mind when I reach out to anyone that I may be corresponding with their "agent" or some third party/middleman. But quite frankly, I don't care who called me a faggot. I was called a faggot, and that is wrong, regardless of the sexuality of the person using the word - especially in "professional" correspondence. That so many of you became mental gymnasts for the sake of discrediting me/defending this person says a lot more about integrity and values than my original sentiments.

 

As for the removal of my post and directive to write a review - I am not contributing a review because I was not provided a service. I was made to feel uncomfortable for inquiring about a service that I had been previously told this man offered. A service that at the initial point of contact was listed in his advertisement as something on the table. That's another part of my post that seemed to go over so many of your heads - I was not harassing someone who made no mention of offering training just because I liked his body. I was making a valid inquiry about a service being advertised.

 

I was speaking to this individual personally in the beginning, and he even told me to call him by his real name - a point which further gave me no reason to assume I was not doing so when I contacted "him" at this current number (somebody implied I was using multiple numbers - not the case, as I also thought I had made clear). A point which made me feel, as someone who has been on the receiving end of vitriolic sentiments, an obligation to warn "him" of the online fodder attempting to damage his reputation and expose his means of financial gain. There was nothing threatening or unclear about the way in which I shared the link I did with "him" - but by all means, assume I got what I deserved in this scenario.

 

@GoldenGrill There is nothing in your posts here that comes across as a genuine attempt to help forum members, either with a general warning or new information. This is how it reads to me: 1) you got the brush off after being a time waster, 2) you responded by mentioning a nasty webpage that outed the escort, and then 3) you got called a dirty name. And...that's all, folks. The experience was likely unpleasant but hardly amounts to a threat to the Gay community. Nobody is in danger. Your OP was pretty strongly worded and could easily be seen as an attack. Even if you are being completely honest, which is never certain on a chat board, this thread is an overreaction.

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@GoldenGrill There is nothing in your posts here that comes across as a genuine attempt to help forum members, either with a general warning or new information. This is how it reads to me: 1) you got the brush off after being a time waster, 2) you responded by mentioning a nasty webpage that outed the escort, and then 3) you got called a dirty name. And...that's all, folks. The experience was likely unpleasant but hardly amounts to a threat to the Gay community. Nobody is in danger. Your OP was pretty strongly worded and could easily be seen as an attack. Even if you are being completely honest, which is never certain on a chat board, this thread is an overreaction.

 

How exactly is it being "a time waster" when I inquired about something, was told I was mistaken about a service being offered after having had a conversation about the very topic months prior, and was then expected to pay an unreasonable amount of money for being given the privilege of texting the guy? It is obvious to me that nobody wants to believe my intentions were good in alerting him to the website's existence, and I can't really do anything more to try and change your minds, but I know where my heart was. Perhaps my OP was strong, but only because of how I felt at the time of writing it. Perhaps, also, the threat posed to you by the use of such language is different than that which it poses to me - I am not going to feel shame for that.

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GoldenGrill - if I was an escort, I would never accept you as a client either. 'Cristianx' either directly, or indirectly through his pimp, got the same vibe I did when reading your posts, which smack of desperation. Bad vibes, desperation - not a good mix. A guy like 'Cristianx' has regulars who keep him in a comfortable life style. Why take a risk with a new client who acts like you?

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How exactly is it being "a time waster" when I inquired about something, was told I was mistaken about a service being offered after having had a conversation about the very topic months prior, and was then expected to pay an unreasonable amount of money for being given the privilege of texting the guy? It is obvious to me that nobody wants to believe my intentions were good in alerting him to the website's existence, and I can't really do anything more to try and change your minds, but I know where my heart was. Perhaps my OP was strong, but only because of how I felt at the time of writing it. Perhaps, also, the threat posed to you by the use of such language is different than that which it poses to me - I am not going to feel shame for that.

Goldengirl, I appreciate your attempt to share information here and the fact that you refuse to be silenced by fans of this escort. Your original post was vanished by the powers that be with an admonishment to write a review. Does anyone really believe that such a review would be published here? You never even got close to meeting with the escort. So why would admin say they look forward to your review? Are they saying that this would be a rare exception where they would post a review where no meeting took place? If I were interested in hiring this escort, I would want all information I could get from the forum, both positive and negative. I'm sorry you've been harshly attacked for your post, and your motives questioned, but please know that at least one person understands and appreciates you.

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Goldengirl, I appreciate your attempt to share information here and the fact that you refuse to be silenced by fans of this escort. Your original post was vanished by the powers that be with an admonishment to write a review. Does anyone really believe that such a review would be published here? You never even got close to meeting with the escort. So why would admin say they look forward to your review? Are they saying that this would be a rare exception where they would post a review where no meeting took place? If I were interested in hiring this escort, I would want all information I could get from the forum, both positive and negative. I'm sorry you've been harshly attacked for your post, and your motives questioned, but please know that at least one person understands and appreciates you.

 

That was a very nice post.

 

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GoldenGrill - if I was an escort, I would never accept you as a client either. 'Cristianx' either directly, or indirectly through his pimp, got the same vibe I did when reading your posts, which smack of desperation. Bad vibes, desperation - not a good mix. A guy like 'Cristianx' has regulars who keep him in a comfortable life style. Why take a risk with a new client who acts like you?

 

I guess it's a good thing that I was not looking to hire him - or you, for that matter - as an escort then! ;)

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GoldenGrill - if I was an escort, I would never accept you as a client either. 'Cristianx' either directly, or indirectly through his pimp, got the same vibe I did when reading your posts, which smack of desperation. Bad vibes, desperation - not a good mix. A guy like 'Cristianx' has regulars who keep him in a comfortable life style. Why take a risk with a new client who acts like you?

What is he doing posting an ad on rentmen.com? Why not just live happily ever after with his comfortable lifestyle? All OP did was responding an ad, got treated so rudely, then got attacked by freakshows like yourself. Anything else you freakshows want to define besides 'desperate' and 'jealousy'?

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I think we've reached the point where everyone is going to have to agree to disagree. It's getting nasty in this thread. I don't think personal attacks are going to help the situation any. Of course this is only one confused gay man's opinion. Take it as you will.

 

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then got attacked by freakshows like yourself. Anything else you freakshows want to define besides 'desperate' and 'jealousy'?

 

Tssk .... tssk. What sort of language is that? Is that how you talk to people? Didn't your freaking mother teach you anything?

 

If this is in any way an indication of how you and your buddy 'Goldengirl-something' interact with an escort, or with the public in general for that matter, I understand the reaction the escort gave you - you simply get tossed out. Next.

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