Nick Sterling 3rd review and response. The client coulda woulda shoulda?

[marylander1940]

http://daddysreviews.com/cruise/bydate

 

http://www.nicksterlingnyc.com/

[OrdinaryJoe]

The client gave no details about what Nick did to make him feel like he wasn't into him so I don't know how to evaluate this. I also think it's a little douchey to not have a good time, consciously not tell the escort during the session and then submit a negative review. If he can wear the big boy pants to hire escorts, then he can engage them in a mature way.

 

Nicks response is essentially a non-response. Its more an advertisement. But he says he doesn't understand why the client didn't have a good time so there's probably not much he could say.

 

Nick mentions they both got off. Not a smoking gun but it is a bit telling.

[+ harey]

I think the escort handled the response very well, basically saying he doesn't want to make any negative comments about the client and would have stopped the session if he'd known it wasn't enough to satisfy. The client being "too shy and too nice" to say anything in person to the escort is BS, although some people are extremely non-confrontational. What struck me in the review was mention of client underwear fetish and that the escort "held his nose". If that isn't a metaphor...then of course most escorts will have limits.

[adriano46]

I knew this review was "in the pipeline" since the reviewer posted a negative review on Rentmen and I asked Nick about it. I did not find Nick defensive or even vengeful, but more philosophical in his measured response to me on what he thinks went wrong (and I point out, in private he did not say anything negative about the reviewer). I simply asked him "what happened?" and he responded in a way I have come to know as typical "Nick."

 

The negative review does not change my opinion of Nick, nor does it make me re-examine any aspect of past encounters. I have found Nick pleasant and passionate as well as funny, enjoyable, and considerate. I imagine - like any of us - he can have an off day, or his personality may not click with another's --it happens. The best is simply move on to find that escort who does live up to or who meets your expectations. I have accumulated a private list (as I am sure many long-time clients here have) of guys who both DID and did NOT meet my expectations, and these pages are full of those encounters. I have learned that not every review can match my experience and reaction, nor can my own encounters be used as a paragon for what anyone else will find with any particular escort. Not that it really matters, but I still consider Nick one of my favorite finds in recent years.

[caliguy]

Ha. I guess Mr. "too shy and too nice" (pussy) finally found his voice. Albeit after the fact in a review.

[bigvalboy]

I knew this review was "in the pipeline" since the reviewer posted a negative review on Rentmen and I asked Nick about it. I did not find Nick defensive or even vengeful, but more philosophical in his measured response to me on what he thinks went wrong (and I point out, in private he did not say anything negative about the reviewer). I simply asked him "what happened?" and he responded in a way I have come to know as typical "Nick."

 

The negative review does not change my opinion of Nick, nor does it make me re-examine any aspect of past encounters. I have found Nick pleasant and passionate as well as funny, enjoyable, and considerate. I imagine - like any of us - he can have an off day, or his personality may not click with another's --it happens. The best is simply move on to find that escort who does live up to or who meets your expectations. I have accumulated a private list (as I am sure many long-time clients here have) of guys who both DID and did NOT meet my expectations, and these pages are full of those encounters. I have learned that not every review can match my experience and reaction, nor can my own encounters be used as a paragon for what anyone else will find with any particular escort. Not that it really matters, but I still consider Nick one of my favorite finds in recent years.

 

+1...

 

The client in question never mentioned any of the above during our encounter... Had I known he wasn't happy, I'd have suggested we not continue, part ways, and dispel with compensation , rather than finish with dissatisfaction. But we both got off... And usually that's a good sign... But signs can be misleading.

If the client had been up front about his dissatisfaction, then Nick could have ended things amicably and as he mentions "dispel with compensation" ...Sounds like a very reasonable position for the escort to take. IMO anyway

[DonaldTramp]

+1...

 

The client in question never mentioned any of the above during our encounter... Had I known he wasn't happy, I'd have suggested we not continue, part ways, and dispel with compensation , rather than finish with dissatisfaction. But we both got off... And usually that's a good sign... But signs can be misleading.

If the client had been up front about his dissatisfaction, then Nick could have ended things amicably and as he mentions "dispel with compensation" ...Sounds like a very reasonable position for the escort to take. IMO anyway

If you eat the steak, you got to pay for it!

[MiamiLooker]

I can’t imagine that the client hired hoping for a mediocre experience, and I doubt that the client consciously tried to sabotage the session. In hind sight, he probably could have done better at communicating his expectations. This is why reviews of less than stellar experiences can be helpful to both clients and escorts. Both clients and escorts can learn what they might do better to increase the likelihood of a successful experience.

[jimboivyo]

it's the same ol thing. gotta communicate folks. if you're gonna swim in the deep end then you gotta put on your big boy nappies!

[marylander1940]

I think the escort handled the response very well, basically saying he doesn't want to make any negative comments about the client and would have stopped the session if he'd known it wasn't enough to satisfy. The client being "too shy and too nice" to say anything in person to the escort is BS, although some people are extremely non-confrontational. What struck me in the review was mention of client underwear fetish and that the escort "held his nose". If that isn't a metaphor...then of course most escorts will have limits.

 

Yes, but he was shy not to say it in person yet he took the time to write a negative review about him. Is like complaining about not liking the escort's lubricant or his bad breath in a review (or even better and faster a mean comment on this forum) yet not having said it when it really fucking mattered at the moment...

 

it's the same ol thing. gotta communicate folks. if you're gonna swim in the deep end then you gotta put on your big boy nappies!

 

Ha. I guess Mr. "too shy and too nice" (pussy) finally found his voice. Albeit after the fact in a review.

 

Yes but stabbing in the back is more fun for a guy who calls himself "too shy and too nice..."

 

 

The client gave no details about what Nick did to make him feel like he wasn't into him so I don't know how to evaluate this. I also think it's a little douchey to not have a good time, consciously not tell the escort during the session and then submit a negative review. If he can wear the big boy pants to hire escorts, then he can engage them in a mature way.

 

Nicks response is essentially a non-response. Its more an advertisement. But he says he doesn't understand why the client didn't have a good time so there's probably not much he could say.

 

Nick mentions they both got off. Not a smoking gun but it is a bit telling.

 

It was nothing but a sweet revenge, and I wonder if the poster enjoyed writing a negative review on RentMen.com and on here, as a way to show power/the last laugh over an escort...

 

Reminds me of @SilverDollar writing a negative review about @Aaron Amour 6 months after they met to make sure Aaron didn't have his cellphone or wasn't even able to identify him, and Aaron Amour not having told Silver Dollar about his alleged bad breath (it could happen to any of us without even noticing) during the encounter to make it more pleasant for the 2 of them.

 

Other escorts have said similar things replying to a negative review. Considering the stats of the poster I'm sure Nick did his best yet it wasn't enough to make it up for other things in the life of the OP and his refusal to communicate when it mattered yet taking the time to write a review shows his true colors.

 

 

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[+ Keith30309]

When I began hiring I found it very difficult to express that something was wrong when I was with someone. It felt like I was sabotaging my own experience by wrecking any chance of intimacy that may remain.

 

After reading a few months of posts by more experienced Forum members like the above it became easier in that I realized that no one is a mind reader and if I'm not communicating something then the other guy assumes all is well. I had an ahha moment when I was with a guy who mentally disengaged a couple of times to have a brief text chat. From his perspective he always had his phone in his hand and nothing unusual was happening. I remembered some of the posts here and silently got up, put on my shoes and jangled my keys looking toward the door. (Yes, passive aggressive - I know and am working on it).

 

It's my goal to get better at this such that no companion will ever be surprised by anything they read in a review (and, more importantly, that there are no negative reviews).

[MiamiLooker]

Keep in mind, communication is a two-way street. In the review/response we’re discussing, it seems that both the client and the escort talk more about what wasn’t discussed rather than what was. The client does mention, however, that he discussed a certain fetish (as well as kissing and cuddling) with the escort, so the escort agreed to the session knowing these expectations, but he wasn’t able to pretend he was into it to the satisfaction of the client. And, to top it off, he made the decision to leave before the session was over. Maybe the escort shouldn’t have agreed to the session.

[humboldt]

I have never hired Nick, and I probably never will. However, I thought his response was very professional.

 

I work in a profession where others, from time to time, will offer public critique of the work that I do. It can sometimes be very difficult to maintain professional composure and not get defensive when that critique is negative.

 

I think we've all seen many, many instances on this site when an escort's response probably ends up doing more harm than good to his reputation. I don't think this is one of those instances.

[adriano46]

MiamiLooker - you make a good point. One thing I have tried to do when hiring is to be as truthful and honest about "me" to the other, so that he knows what to expect when he arrives. I learned a great lesson from one great escort (no longer, sadly, in NYC). He absolutely insisted on a phone conversation before agreeing to any meeting.

 

I generally was very shy about this (giving out my phone number and... initiating a call to a guy while still wavering). Michael (the escort) is a mature guy and so has a lot of experience. He admitted to me later, the calls are his way of trying to screen perspective clients and weed out those he knows will be difficult for him to satisfy. I think most escorts try to do the same, but I also know that this is not a fool-proof method. There is ALWAYS risk on both sides.

 

Isn't this the whole dynamic of hiring? Sometimes you miss a bit; sometimes the guy shows up and is definitely NOT the guy you thought you hired; sometimes he has not showered, or reeks with tobacco or marijuana; sometimes he has pimples all over what was - in the photos - a flawless skin; sometimes he has bad breath; sometimes.... the list can go on and on, and I know escorts have the exact same reactions once they see he perspective client who is behind the door.

 

I would assume too if someone is into fetishes, these have to be more clearly discussed before the meeting. I do hope the client in this case with the bad encounter with Nick would learn he may have to be more detailed in explaining what his fetish is as well as his full expectations on what he means by passion, etc.... and... understand that escorts - like clients - are human and sometimes things do not turn out 100% the way we expected. This forum has said often enough -- learn from experience (your own first of all, and the experience of clients and escorts that you already have come to learn to trust). BUT realize, my experience with an escort may not (and should not really) be the same as yours.

[coriolis888]

 

The client does mention, however, that he discussed a certain fetish (as well as kissing and cuddling) with the escort, so the escort agreed to the session knowing these expectations, but he wasn’t able to pretend he was into it to the satisfaction of the client.

 

And, to top it off, he made the decision to leave before the session was over. Maybe the escort shouldn’t have agreed to the session.

 

 

Perhaps some of the harsh criticism of the client should be reconsidered in view of the above facts taken from the review.

 

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[marylander1940]

Keep in mind, communication is a two-way street. In the review/response we’re discussing, it seems that both the client and the escort talk more about what wasn’t discussed rather than what was. The client does mention, however, that he discussed a certain fetish (as well as kissing and cuddling) with the escort, so the escort agreed to the session knowing these expectations, but he wasn’t able to pretend he was into it to the satisfaction of the client. And, to top it off, he made the decision to leave before the session was over. Maybe the escort shouldn’t have agreed to the session.

 

Escorts can't read your mind, specially the mind of an allegedly shy person.

 

Perhaps some of the harsh criticism of the client should be reconsidered in view of the above facts taken from the review.

 

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Maybe Nick was so bored he didn't realized the hour wasn't over yet, I guess he's no clock watcher.

[MikeBauer]

I, too, am very shy and would find it hard to voice a serious complaint in a session, particularly if I think the escort were really trying to give me good service.

 

That being said, the escort cannot take all the blame for not satisfying this or any other client who does not TELL HIM what the problem is, when there is still a chance to fix it.

 

As difficult as it may be to express disappointment face-to-face, if you really want to resolve the issue (rather than simply vent about it later), you have to speak up.

[MiamiLooker]

Escorts can't read your mind, specially the mind of an allegedly shy person.

 

 

 

Maybe Nick was so bored he didn't realized the hour wasn't over yet, I guess he's no clock watcher.

The client had already told the escort what he expected. The escort was paid for an hour session. For some clients, $300 is a lot of money. There's no excuse for an escort that charges $300 and represents himself as a professional to make a decision on his own to leave before the hour is up.

[marylander1940]

The client had already told the escort what he expected. The escort was paid for an hour session. For some clients, $300 is a lot of money. There's no excuse for an escort that charges $300 and represents himself as a professional to make a decision on his own to leave before the hour is up.

 

How do you know he knew he was leaving earlier?

 

Besides the poster has some issues, I wouldn't even take his word about how many minutes Nick stayed there.

[coriolis888]

How do you know he knew he was leaving earlier?

 

Besides the poster has some issues, I wouldn't even take his word about how many minutes Nick stayed there.

 

 

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Being "shy and too nice" means that the client "has some issues" and is, therefore, not credible?

 

I suspect that this client will not be submitting any additional reviews at any time in the future.

 

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[marylander1940]

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Being "shy and too nice" means that the client "has some issues" and is, therefore, not credible?

 

I suspect that this client will not be submitting any additional reviews at any time in the future.

 

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Wow...

 

Do you know the client?

 

Why do you assume he won't be submitting new reviews?

 

Maybe because he'll read many of the posts on here and decide to start communicating with the escorts he hires when things don't go as expected?

 

That would be good, right?

 

One more time he was too shy and too nice to talk at the moment, yet he's not shy and nice enough to post a negative 1 star review on rentmen.com and on here too... Read the review, it's an emotional rollercoaster.

[coriolis888]

Wow...

 

Do you know the client?

 

Why do you assume he won't be submitting new reviews?

 

Maybe because he'll read many of the posts on here and decide to start communicating with the escorts he hires when things don't go as expected?

 

That would be good, right?

 

One more time he was too shy and too nice to talk at the moment, yet he's not shy and nice enough to post a negative 1 star review on rentmen.com and on here too... Read the review, it's an emotional rollercoaster.

 

 

No, I do not know the client, do you?

 

I read the review and the response. Quite simply, the review and response is a - "he said - she said" situation.

 

The client was aggressively criticized here without people knowing all the facts. Therefore, why would the client submit a future review and risk getting the type of responses he got from his first review to this site?

 

Hopefully, the client will learn to better communicate with escorts in the future.

 

I read the review. I did not see any "emotional rollercoaster" but I did see the review of a client who was disappointed at his experience with an escort.

 

Isn't a review the way we report our experiences with an escort? I think that some of the criticism of the client was too harsh.

[marylander1940]

No, I do not know the client, do you?

 

I read the review and the response. Quite simply, the review and response is a - "he said - she said" situation.

 

The client was aggressively criticized here without people knowing all the facts. Therefore, why would the client submit a future review and risk getting the type of responses he got from his first review to this site?

 

Hopefully, the client will learn to better communicate with an escort in the future. .

 

We agree on this one!

 

I read the review. I did not see any "emotional rollercoaster" but I did see the review of a client who was disappointed at his experience with the escort.

 

Isn't a review the way we report our experiences with an escort? I think that some of the criticism of the client was too harsh.

 

Sometimes is a window into the soul of the client, please read again the adjectives use by the client: depressing, shy and nice, sent pretty hot photos, 33 y/o cub, escort grossed out, did underwear fetish but held his nose, no exceptional experience...

 

The client will survive the "harsh criticism" so will the reputation of this escort.

[MiamiLooker]

How do you know he knew he was leaving earlier?

 

Besides the poster has some issues, I wouldn't even take his word about how many minutes Nick stayed there.

 

Well, the escort’s response seems quite honest and genuine. He doesn’t dispute anything in the review, not even that he may have decided to leave early. Do you think every review has to be an unpaid promotional advertisement for the escort?

[LADoug1]

The response really didn't cover the issues at hand. It was more self-promotion than anything else.

 

Communication is key here but as a shy client I find stopping a session with an escort to re-tool a major buzz kill so I don't do it. I'm probably in the wrong though.