Verified ID for Justine?

[Wiley1]

This guy is ID verified. https://rent.men/justinetimeiss

 

Don't see how they verified him, he's hot, and cheap!

[Hhuu]

The ID verification system on rm is highly questionable IMO

[Wiley1]

The ID verification system on rm is highly questionable IMO

 

Can someone verify him for me please?

[MikeBiDude]

This guy is ID verified. https://rent.men/justinetimeiss

 

Don't see how they verified him, he's hot, and cheap!

Huh? Not sure what you're saying?

[JerseyBabyDaddy]

You may find this useful. @Kurtis Wolfe's insight pretty much tells you how reliable the Verified ID function is:http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/how-reliable-and-useful-are-the-rentmen-verifications-verified-id-verified-photos-etc.118160/

 

Have you tried asking for a personalized selfie? (With three fingers or something)? From my experience, most escorts will ignore you and no longer respond once you ask for a picture. It's as if my number is instantly put on a blocked numbers list. There were only one or two instances where the escort said he doesn't send/exchange pictures, but I still went on with the meeting. So, if you want to ask for a selfie, do it at your own risk.

[Guest MikeThomas]

Justin or Justine? Kind of important. LOL!

[Wiley1]

Huh? Not sure what you're saying?

 

Hi Mike. What I mean is that, if he is so hot, then why is he only $200 per hour? And the shots are model shots, too.

[Wiley1]

You may find this useful. @Kurtis Wolfe's insight pretty much tells you how reliable the Verified ID function is:http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/how-reliable-and-useful-are-the-rentmen-verifications-verified-id-verified-photos-etc.118160/

 

Have you tried asking for a personalized selfie? (With three fingers or something)? From my experience, most escorts will ignore you and no longer respond once you ask for a picture. It's as if my number is instantly put on a blocked numbers list. There were only one or two instances where the escort said he doesn't send/exchange pictures, but I still went on with the meeting. So, if you want to ask for a selfie, do it at your own risk.

 

Thanks. I asked for a personalized selfie or Facetime. He stopped asking me what time did I want to meet and didn't respond. Trust but verify.

[MikeBiDude]

Hi Mike. What I mean is that, if he is so hot, then why is he only $200 per hour? And the shots are model shots, too.

Have you tried asking for a personalized selfie? (With three fingers or something)?

 

Well, the requested selfie suggestion above is the best, since no one from the forum here has vouched for the boy. Yeah, he's hot...as far as his rate goes, "you never know". Could be "too good to be true" or could be any number of biz reasons he wants to charge that?

 

Ask for a selfie with today's date written on a piece of paper or 3 fingers or what not. Probably as @JerseyBabyDaddy and others before him predict, you might not get a reply

[caliguy]

Ha. He could charge double that and still have the phone ringing off the hook. He's either fake, really desperate, or the worst businessman ever.

[coriolis888]

Hi Mike. What I mean is that, if he is so hot, then why is he only $200 per hour? And the shots are model shots, too.

 

 

Perform a Google search on his phone number. The number brings up various other ads for the guy with the same photos.

 

The phone number is a Texas number but his rentmen ad says he is in D.C.

 

One telephone search result brings up the name that his cell phone is registered. You might try calling the phone number and asking for the person who the phone belongs to and also the person placing the ad. That might let you know if the ad is fake or not.

 

Someone just posted a link to another thread where the same photos are shown for this guy using different names. Now, I believe the ad is not real.

 

You are probably better off passing on this guy considering the prior ads with different information but with the same photos.

[Wiley1]

This is the same guy that has posted bogus ads before. http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/jasonpatriccc.117334/#post-1148292

[caliguy]

This is the same guy that has posted bogus ads before. http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/jasonpatriccc.117334/#post-1148292

Ha. I guess he isn't depending much on Daddies traffic since this seems to keep coming up on a regular basis. Just what Tennisjock said..

 

tennisjockKnight

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Yes these pics have been around. Also keep in mind a guy at this age and build and height and hung like he claims would be closer to the 400 mark not the 200 rate.

I was wanting to believe the ad until I saw the rate ...that is a huge red flag

[rvwnsd]

The ID verification system on rm is highly questionable IMO

In what way do you find it to be questionable? Based on the help text provided on the site, they request a copy of the advertiser's ID. Not sure what else they can do. They are not a financial institution, so services such as Experian Precise ID would not be available to them. I suppose they could run a LexisNexis search, but that is fairly expensive and would likely render them unprofitable. Given most government-issued forms of ID contain poor-quality head shots, the only thing they can verify is the name on the application matches the name on the ID.

 

The photo verification process (which is different than ID verification) apparently involves the escort sending a selfie in which he is holding his screen name or advertiser ID number. Again, not sure what else they could do.

[coriolis888]

 

In what way do you find it to be questionable? Based on the help text provided on the site, they request a copy of the advertiser's ID. Not sure what else they can do. They are not a financial institution, so services such as Experian Precise ID would not be available to them. I suppose they could run a LexisNexis search, but that is fairly expensive and would likely render them unprofitable. Given most government-issued forms of ID contain poor-quality head shots, the only thing they can verify is the name on the application matches the name on the ID.

 

 

In order to satisfy rentmen with a "verifiable" identification, all one need do is prepare a computer page showing a fake name of choice, a fake address, a fake date of birth of choice, then print that page that contains the false data. Then, use a real identification. On the real identification, cut out the fake data prepared that is discussed in the first sentence.

 

Place the cut out fake data (use temporary glue) over the real identification name, address, date of birth and all. After that, you prepare a photo copy the real identification that contains the fake data placed over the real data.

 

You then scan the fake photo and send it to rentmen.

 

It is not at all difficult.

 

Therefore, when you see that an escort on rentmen had his identification verified, the verification means very little, if anything.

[Hhuu]

In what way do you find it to be questionable? Based on the help text provided on the site, they request a copy of the advertiser's ID. Not sure what else they can do. They are not a financial institution, so services such as Experian Precise ID would not be available to them. I suppose they could run a LexisNexis search, but that is fairly expensive and would likely render them unprofitable. Given most government-issued forms of ID contain poor-quality head shots, the only thing they can verify is the name on the application matches the name on the ID.

 

The photo verification process (which is different than ID verification) apparently involves the escort sending a selfie in which he is holding his screen name or advertiser ID number. Again, not sure what else they could do.

 

Like you said, they can probably only verify the name on the application matches the ID. So what's the point? It basically just says this is a real human being behind the screen and the application was not submitted by some agency?

 

The photo verification is more reliable. I have yet to see an ad that is fake and also photo verified

[MikeBiDude]

Like you said, they can probably only verify the name on the application matches the ID. So what's the point? It basically just says this is a real human being behind the screen and the application was not submitted by some agency?

 

The photo verification is more reliable. I have yet to see an ad that is fake and also photo verified

One poster in this thread felt the photo verification could be faked as well:

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/maxrichy-los-angeles.118043/

[rvwnsd]

One poster in this thread felt the photo verification could be faked as well:

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/maxrichy-los-angeles.118043/

Here is a portion of the photo in question as well as a snippet of his ad. Notice anything?

I'll give you a hint: read right from "Sponsor" and tell me what you see greyed- and crossed out.

[Hhuu]

Thanks rvwnsd. I noticed the same thing but didn't have the chance to reply. Seems verified PHOTO is the way to go

[MikeBiDude]

Here is a portion of the photo in question as well as a snippet of his ad. Notice anything?

I'll give you a hint: read right from "Sponsor" and tell me what you see greyed- and crossed out.

Yes noticed that from the get go, I guess the fact the advertiser even had such a pic with the date was considered a step forward, albeit not "verified" by RM.

[rvwnsd]

Yes noticed that from the get go, I guess the fact the advertiser even had such a pic with the date was considered a step forward, albeit not "verified" by RM.

That's a good point. However, this post:

 

One poster in this thread felt the photo verification could be faked as well:

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/maxrichy-los-angeles.118043/

 

was about the photo verification feature. I recognize you were quoting another poster's comment made on another thread, but wanted to clarify that despite the photo this guy is not verified.

 

All that being said, there is a limit to the type of verification RM (or any other website) can do, regardless what they want to do. There are several verification services, but they all use information gleaned from public records and credit bureau reports. When a company starts using that kind of information, regardless whether they choose to deny someone membership or simply stamp them with a "verified" label, there is a host of disclosures they are required to display/have the customer certify to agree to, record-keeping requirements to follow, and privacy disclosures they are required to mail not to mention compliance with FCRA (because verification services use credit data) and FACTA (ditto).

[MikeBiDude]

That's a good point. However, this post:

 

 

 

was about the photo verification feature. I recognize you were quoting another poster's comment made on another thread, but wanted to clarify that despite the photo this guy is not verified.

 

All that being said, there is a limit to the type of verification RM (or any other website) can do, regardless what they want to do. There are several verification services, but they all use information gleaned from public records and credit bureau reports. When a company starts using that kind of information, regardless whether they choose to deny someone membership or simply stamp them with a "verified" label, there is a host of disclosures they are required to display/have the customer certify to agree to, record-keeping requirements to follow, and privacy disclosures they are required to mail not to mention compliance with FCRA (because verification services use credit data) and FACTA (ditto).

Good clarification, thanks.

[Wiley1]

I doubt that you can open a bank account with the information that RM requires, but that's not the point, is it? Don't use the word "verification" if it means nothing such. The discussion here centers on how much trust one should give a RM verification. That doesn't mean that RM is doing a bad job at what it does. It just helps us understand that the word "verified" doesn't help us, as much as we would like, in ensuring that the person we may hire is the person pictured in the photos.

 

On the bright side, there is an economic opportunity here (that's what this is about, right?). Start a company and adopt the rigorous identity validation procedures that banks use. Escorts and forum readers here would be highly likely to pay to support it. That way, you get what you pay for.

[coriolis888]

 

Technically this is also how you open fraudulent bank accounts and a variety of other accounts as well. If someone with the skills wanted to, you can pretty much do anything.

 

Holding RentMen to higher standards than your local credit union is a very hilarious and unachievable proposition.

 

 

Sorry to disagree. You cannot legally open a bank account, credit union account or a credit card using only photocopied identification.

 

Many bank accounts or credit union accounts or credit card accounts can be opened on-line. However, a bank or other agency will ask security questions to confirm the authenticity of the person opening the account.

 

In addition to the security questions, banks and other agencies have access to on-line credit reporting agencies, department of motor vehicles records and other federal sources to confirm the data appearing on photocopied identification.

 

Rent-men makes no attempts to verify identification presented by advertisers.

 

Clients seeing rent-men ads that say "verified ID or verified photo" are misled with a false sense of assurance for making a choice of which escort to hire.

 

No, rent-men is not held to higher standards than credit unions for reasons shown above.

[coriolis888]

 

Don't use the word "verification" if it means nothing such. The discussion here centers on how much trust one should give a RM verification.

 

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Excellent point!