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Life changing for me. Why I will never be taking an escort, trick or any other stranger home again!

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coriolis888 Grand Master

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2016/08/24/they-met-on-a-dating-site-and-went-bowling-it-was-a-setup-police-say-and-now-hes-dead/

 

True Crime

They met on a dating site and went bowling. It was a setup, police say, and now he’s dead.

 

A very tragic story and very eye-opening for me!

 

 

No question, the incident is a scary eye opener.

 

I am guilty of inviting repeat escorts to my home. I never think about things like what was reported in the news article.

 

What a shame that our lifestyle puts us in such potential danger, every now and again.

down_to_business Mentor

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Life changing? Eye opener?

 

I happens a lot, if it's too good (easy) to be true, it isn't.

 

 

This is the scary part. Nothing about it was too good to be true. Nothing about it was out of the ordinary. Just someone meeting someone else online and losing their life over it.

 

It was eye opening to me because I have not been particularly over concerned with letting someone in my house whom I haven't known very well in the past (i.e. someone I met online or an escort) and now I see how easily this could have been my own death, because they might have liked my TV or iPhone.

marylander1940 Grand Master

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This is the scary part. Nothing about it was too good to be true. Nothing about it was out of the ordinary. Just someone meeting someone else online and losing their life over it.

 

It was eye opening to me because I have not been particularly over concerned with letting someone in my house whom I haven't known very well in the past (i.e. someone I met online or an escort) and now I see how easily this could have been my own death, because they might have liked my TV or iPhone.

 

she could have done better... that's what I mean with: if it's too good to be true...

 

I has happened a lot of times, if it's scares you don't do it, don't bring anybody home, just go to their hotels/houses if you think that's safer.

coriolis888 Grand Master

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Life changing? Eye opener?

 

I happens a lot, if it's too good (easy) to be true, it isn't.

 

 

I am not saying it is a life changer for me.

 

However, reading about such a terrible thing is an eye opener for those of us who are not aware that "it happens a lot" as you wrote.

 

I was not aware that that type of event occurs often.

 

The only change I will make is to be more cautious when deciding to bring someone I don't know well, into my house.

marylander1940 Grand Master

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I am not saying it is a life changer for me.

 

However, reading such about such a terrible thing is an eye opener for those of us who are not aware that "it happens a lot" as you wrote.

 

I was not aware that that type of event occurs often.

 

The only change I will make is to be more cautious when deciding to bring someone i don't know well, into my house.

 

It's been talked about many times on here and in the news.

 

Now at least there are cameras in many places, and we all know because of Mr. Snowden there's a record of our text messages, phone calls, etc.

 

I often think about this on the escorts' end of things. How many times an escort opens his/her door to total strangers.

 

Exactly, it's even more dangerous for them.

down_to_business Mentor

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Just because the person may get caught (due to some email or phone trail), that won't help you from being dead!

 

I don't know why people try to make every thread about one-upsmanship between escorts and clients, yet here we go again. Is a murdered escort any more dead than a murdered client? It's not even about the escort /client dynamic, it's about meeting anyone at all over the internet and inviting them back to your home. It's taking precautions against things I didn't even know I needed to take precautions against. It's a scary place out there!

AdamSmith Grand Master

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This was tragic. But given the very large number of anonymous or close-to-it hookups that happen every day, and the minuscule number that end like this, I have a hard time drawing life lessons from it.

 

Somewhat like random urban street crime. Three years ago in Boston's Chinatown I was walking down a street not too late at night down which I had walked many dozens of times before with no incident. This time, four guys appeared out of the shadows and at knifepoint relieved me of wallet and iPhone.

 

Was there a lesson in it? Hard to see. I'm not going to cower behind closed doors to avoid any least chance of mischance. If that's living, why bother?

down_to_business Mentor

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I often think about this on the escorts' end of things. How many times an escort opens his/her door to total strangers.

 

I don't know Sync. The whole idea of this scheme is that someone is using the internet to meet you to check out your place with the intent to come back and rob and murder you. It seems very unlikely that the thief would be willing to fork out an evening rate of (say $500) to put such a plan into motion when they can kill an unsuspecting client or grindr user for free.

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This was tragic. But given the very large number of anonymous or close-to-it hookups that happen every day, and the minuscule number that end like this, I have a hard time drawing life lessons from it.

 

Somewhat like random urban street crime. Three years ago in Boston's Chinatown I was walking down a street not too late at night down which I had walked many dozens of times before with no incident. This time, four guys appeared out of the shadows and at knifepoint relieved me of wallet and iPhone.

 

Was there a lesson in it? Hard to see. I'm not going to cower behind closed doors to avoid any least chance of mischance. If that's living, why bother?

 

my potential lessons:

concealed carry

don't walk alone

carry a fake wallet

walk with a big dog

bigvalboy Grand Master

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Well I gotta say, that all these stories should be life's lessons. One would be foolish not to learn from them. (Not that I am calling Adam Smith foolish) ;)

 

I used to do a lot of yelling at other drivers. I was an impatient twat, everyday I would come home irritated about the ability of other drivers to correctly pilot their automobiles. One day I received a phone call, a dear friend of mine was driving home, and had gotten into a yelling match with another driver. You know one of those middle finger arguments. The other driver began following him. He pulled over, and got out of the car to ask the other driver what his problem was. And right there in the middle of day, in one of the safest neighborhoods in Los Angeles and on one of the busiest streets on the west side, the other driver pulled a knife and stabbed my friend 17 times. He died as dozens of people looked on in shock. He was 24 years old, and had been married less than a year. It has been thirty years, and I have never so much as looked at another driver again.

 

Yes, many of life's lessons are here for the taking everyday...or not.

AdamSmith Grand Master

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my potential lessons:

concealed carry

don't walk alone

carry a fake wallet

walk with a big dog

Practical.

 

I rather rely on the old saw The Lord looks after saints and fools. o_O

rvwnsd Grand Master

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What happened to this man is terrible. He went out on what he thought was a date and instead it was a setup for a robbery and murder. It could happen to any of us, regardless whether we entertain at home or go to an escort's home or hotel. It could also happen with someone who has been "vetted" on this Forum.

 

There is a risk associated with everything we do. Thousands of people die in car accidents every year. Is anyone giving up driving?

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I don't know Sync. The whole idea of this scheme is that someone is using the internet to meet you to check out your place with the intent to come back and rob and murder you. It seems very unlikely that the thief would be willing to fork out an evening rate of (say $500) to put such a plan into motion when they can kill an unsuspecting client or grindr user for free.

 

I see your point, but I was thinking of the possibility for spontaneous violent asaults.

AdamSmith Grand Master

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The interesting and light-shedding thing here could be how it helps each of us see how we respond to risk, the world, and the balance of risk and reward in any situation labeled 'opportunity.'

 

For the first half of my life I was wedded to a risk-avoidance model of the world and life. Then (through life circuits too tortuous to entertain here) I came out, arguably too far, on the other side.

 

This side is much better, to me.

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Time to come clean: I have a buddy who knows exactly who I'm meeting, where, when and for how long. So far, I've never needed the lifeline, but it is nice to know it is there. I text my buddy before and after a session, and we have a midway check-in that is very subtle. We have a protocol if things go off-track. I do the same for my buddy in return, but she does this with her dates - she doesn't hire. Maybe I have something to learn from her in that regard? By the way, I don't view this approach as living my life in fear, but living my life in full awareness of the risks that are out there. Sad but true.

Zman Proficient

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I agree there is a risk in this particular hobby of ours, for both escort and client. I've had experiences I wished never happened. But so far the rewards of hiring have outweighed the negatives.

 

I like hiring. I try to exercise caution and due care. That's one reason I follow this forum. But ultimately I know I'm going to keep hiring despite the risks.

 

As someone above said, driving is risky yet we drive. We wear seat belts if we are smart.

Bargara Leatherboy Mentor

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Time to come clean: I have a buddy who knows exactly who I'm meeting, where, when and for how long. So far, I've never needed the lifeline, but it is nice to know it is there. I text my buddy before and after a session, and we have a midway check-in that is very subtle. We have a protocol if things go off-track. I do the same for my buddy in return, but she does this with her dates - she doesn't hire. Maybe I have something to learn from her in that regard? By the way, I don't view this approach as living my life in fear, but living my life in full awareness of the risks that are out there. Sad but true.

 

I normally send myself a text containing details of the meeting, If I go missing , it gives the Police a head start.

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