In defense of an escort attacked by MAGIC MIKE (Michael Wayne)

[marylander1940]

When I hear something negative about a fellow escort ONE TIME OR TWO TIMES OR EVEN THREE TIMES I ignore it and conclude that it is just one or two or three unhappy clients but when I hear something TEN times from GOOD clients who are ALL reputable DC businessmen or Government employees then we must take notice. A certain TOP (in both sexual positioning and fame) escort who has MULTIPLE DOZENS of reviews is using a technique to get them which is disturbing to say the least. First he goes through his very scripted and staged routine which he performs with every client in a very detached manner. Then he does his thing. He is GORGEOUS, has a great BODY and COCK and he always delivers the goods so to speak. Here are the issues: 1. He asks his clients to write him a Daddys' review. 2. he tells the client WHAT to SAY and HOW to say it. 3. He lets the client know that HE WILL NOT SEE THE CLIENT AGAIN UNLESS HE WRITES THE REVIEW. 4. Until the review is posted he contacts the client DAILY to check on the progress of the review. Now, all of this behavior is , to me, UNPROFESSIONAL!!! I have always wondered why CERTAIN guys have SO MANY reviews and other guys who are EQUAL or BETTER escorts have so FEW reviews. To me: if a client wants to review me then that is fine but that is HIS BUSINESS!! Another DC escort is going around claiming to be my friend saying he knows me and has done videos with me. He is outright flat lying about it as I have never met the young man. This same young man is posting fake pictures of a penis that is NOT HIS! I wonder if, since Rentboy died, escorts out of desperation are doing desperate things. For me I will stick to the old school ways of honesty and discretion. I felt these practices needed to be exposed. I do not feel that NAMING NAMES is called for here but certainly if this scam, scheme and (in my opinion) blackmail has happened to you then you know EXACTLY who I am talking about. My LEGIT reviews are on here as Michael Wayne DC and are @ www.rentmen.com/magicmikeydc

 

I marked what I think it's the truth in your post.

 

First of all, I'm legitimate, so is Peneampio and Truhart1 and others who wrote reviews about him.

 

I've met him many times, I just wrote a review about him and I will again next year, I did post 3 reviews about him on RM.

 

Do you mean to tell us when he asks for a review if the guy doesn't publish his review he won't see them again? Wow! Please what kind of work practice is that? Does he contact clients every day asking for a review? I'm sure he has a life too, and I guarantee you he doesn't do it. He may or may not ask: "do you write reviews"? that's all...

 

You're always coherent on your posts, pictures, and I'm glad you "made a fortune" in New Orleans' craigslist and other places and now you love living in DC.

 

Sometimes being asked to do something can you please write a review is nothing but that...

 

As the OP of this thread I want to thank everyone who responded in public or in private. I sent (at last count) 25 private messages to everyone who contacted me about the names. I still do not feel it is appropriate (or within the rules) to name the names in public. That is why we have the pm process and it worked well here. To clarify: these are both DC LOCAL escorts. One is extremely HOT. One is NOT. One is great at what he does and one is NOT. My issue is 99 percent with the first escort. I am OLD SCHOOL and I don't believe it is appropriate to contact a client much less badger them for a review and refuse to see them unless they write you a review. I believe a client should always contact me. To always email, text or call a client looking for biz is HUSTLING, not escorting. It is also not DISCREET.....it is STREET level! I could have said more about our current collection of so called "talent," but I chose not to. It seems in DC as if the usual pattern now is for the escorts to show up drunk, high or stoned and expect to be paid. They claim to be a TOP but are limp or claim to be a bottom but "my ass is sore tonight...can we just do oral tonight?" LOL!!!! I hear these horror stories 3 or 4 times a week and I am sure DC Is like everywhere else. Our DC market has recently been invaded and glutted by porn stars or wanna be porn stars who have NO CONCEPT of how to escort! It is two different worlds and very, very few porn stars can pull it off. They also fancy themselves as being worth DOUBLE the fee others are charging YET they deliver half the goods and bring an arrogant, nasty, I am better than you attitude. I don't like being anyones' second or third choice but in this day and age that practice is common. Here is a typical DC scenario: Client burns 400-500 on a porn star on a Saturday night. He is left unsatisfied. Second day of his visit he hires porn star number two and the experience is WORSE and now he has spent a grand. On the third day of the visit he gets the "STAGE SHOW" of an actual escort and he is horrified and loses another 300. Last day of visit, in desperation, he hires one of the few REAL, FRIENDLY, NICE and DISCREET guys in town like ME or the other 3 or 4 reputable local escorts and he has an AMAZING TIME and only spends 200. I have usually posted threads on here in years past about unethical conduct by clients such as threads like "The Cancellation Carousel Continues" or "The Death of Common Courtesy" or "Escorting From a Position of Power." I am very proud of those controversial, yet accurate threads, HOWEVER, in recent months it has occurred to me that many clients are acting out in those ways BECAUSE of the FOOLS, FAKES, FLAKES and FRAUDS they are meeting in the ESCORT community. The true ethical male escort or gigolo in the USA is disappearing as are many of the good clients. I thank God for the great regulars I still have and for the many great new clients I have met. I seem to be one of the lucky ones still doing relatively well in the biz which, at my age, is hilarious!!!!!!!! Love to hear from all of yall @ www.rentmen.com/magicmikeydc

 

Here is a typical DC scenario: Client burns 400-500 on a porn star on a Saturday night. He is left unsatisfied. Second day of his visit he hires porn star number two and the experience is WORSE and now he has spent a grand. On the third day of the visit he gets the "STAGE SHOW" of an actual escort and he is horrified and loses another 300. Last day of visit, in desperation, he hires one of the few REAL, FRIENDLY, NICE and DISCREET guys in town like ME or the other 3 or 4 reputable local escorts and he has an AMAZING TIME and only spends 200.

 

Such exaggerations not even in Fox News pornstars are slut-shamed they way you just did. Some pornstar don't even escort because they don't want to, some do it and have fun, some are bad at it. Such generalization!

 

I guess the pornstar invasion is also one of the main reasons for you to post this thread.

[humboldt]

Does this regard the "unfortunate practice" thread?

[marylander1940]

Does this regard the "unfortunate practice" thread?

 

Yes, about him asking daily about the review.... and denying service (his top routine) if they don't post a review.

 

I wonder if someone is jealous about him and all visiting pornstars because they never deliver...

[+ jc808]

I too have written a review of this escort. I am quite genuine, and I had a splendid time. I was not asked to write the review, let alone told what to write or nagged about it.

[marylander1940]

I too have written a review of this escort. I am quite genuine, and I had a splendid time. I was not asked to write the review, let alone told what to write or nagged about it.

 

Thank you for posting!

[Guest]

I have as well. I was never bullied into it. He is a great, sincere, sweet guy and a hell of a lot of fun. He asked if I would submit a review if I enjoyed my time with him. And I did enjoy my time and I did write a review!

 

I did so on Rentmen, so there are no details. But I think maybe it's time for me to add one to the stable of stellar reviews on Daddy's Review as well

[marylander1940]

I think this post is starting to become self-serving. But Mikey I do usually like what you contribute.

 

yes, that's the whole point of that thread, complaining about a local escort who competes with him and why not badmouthing pornstars because they're pretty but they don't deliver and thank God he's around to pick up the pieces for them and make the clients happy while they're visiting DC.

 

 

PM me the name of the escort you are talking about please.

 

Why? It's noting but a lie!

 

Wow! You post in the thread about gossip and drama that you don't care about gossip and drama.. Wink wink. You claim to be nothing like all us old farts who engage in "gossip and drama." Wink wink. I'm just thinking back to the "Dallas Mafia" business, when one particular escort, who cares nothing about gossip and drama, could not shut up about the "gossip and drama" revolving around that subject. You blasted an entire city over the actions of an alleged few; and tried to build yourself up upon your careless generalizations. But I'm old. I'm sure you can teach me alot about all of that I'm sure. Wink wink.

 

careless generalizations, right on!

 

Pornstars are bad in the bedroom, they will always disappoint you. LOL

[TruHart1]

Does this regard the "unfortunate practice" thread?

I too have written a review of this escort. I am quite genuine, and I had a splendid time. I was not asked to write the review, let alone told what to write or nagged about it.

I have as well. I was never bullied into it. He is a great, sincere, sweet guy and a hell of a lot of fun. He asked if I would submit a review if I enjoyed my time with him. And I did enjoy my time and I did write a review!

 

I did so on Rentmen, so there are no details. But I think maybe it's time for me to add one to the stable of stellar reviews on Daddy's Review as well

I do believe Mikey may have been fed a bill of goods here (on that "unfortunate practice" thread.) Since he tends to usually be thoughtful in his posts, it only follows that these gossip/rumors/innuendi are from clients who are more into Mikey's physical type than the escort in question, radically different body types AND personalities. I can't even see how Mikey and this escort could be in competition since they are such different types and thus would attract very few clients in common! I, personally, know the escort being drug into the mud as a beautiful young man with a sweet and giving personality who would never even approach threatening ANY client for any reason.

 

My only conclusion is to call bullshit on these indiscreet, gossipy clients who are slinging mud by complaining to Mikey, another escort. I've hired the escort in question over 15 times in the past 4 years and NEVER had a negative experience with him. The facts just don't hold up!

 

TruHart1

[marylander1940]

Getting the word out - stating the facts - isn't an issue in my mind. But all the editorializing and propagandizing added into the post just makes me doubt the authenticity of the claimed facts.

 

I agree with you on this subject!

[marylander1940]

I do believe Mikey may have been fed a bill of goods here (on that "unfortunate practice" thread.) Since he tends to usually be thoughtful in his posts, it only follows that these gossip/rumors/innuendi are from clients who are more into Mikey's physical type than the escort in question, radically different body types AND personalities. I can't even see how Mikey and this escort could be in competition since they are such different types and thus would attract very few clients in common! I, personally, know the escort being drug into the mud as a beautiful young man with a sweet and giving personality who would never even approach threatening ANY client for any reason.

 

My only conclusion is to call bullshit on these indiscreet, gossipy clients who are slinging mud by complaining to Mikey, another escort. I've hired the escort in question over 15 times in the past 4 years and NEVER had a negative experience with him. The facts just don't hold up!

 

TruHart1

 

you're always so nice but in this case the OP (of the first thread) has an agenda and that's why he's attacking a local escort.

[marylander1940]

There were rumors about another escort giving half of after a review is published, obviously Magic Mike wouldn't promote himself while attacking the competence (that escort, and all visiting pornstars) if they were participants of this forum.

 

Getting the word out is an honorable thing to do IF you feel a responsibility to do it. When done correctly, with class and without selling gossip as fact, we dont hurt anyone but rather get to the bottom of what may or may not be something to worry about. Id frame it in the form of a question such as "I suspect something shadey is happening with a local escort in X city, has anyone had (insert here) experience?" If it has, a few people speak up, its confirmed, you look like a hero. You know what you look like now? Something a person posting with class would not say. Oh and that comment was not meant for livinginla. Reply button hit by mistake. I dont get involved or care to know who is doing what but if I did, thats how id do it.

 

Yes, and in this case the facts and the self-promotion of the OP who doesn't like gossip yet he's openly gossiping, shows it's all a made up fantasy by him or by someone else who put it in his mind.

 

Don't worry Killian, you post on here, he'll never mess with you, and btw the first post has nothing to do with you either.

 

I wish Steven Draker was around to talk about his opinion of the victim of this attack by Magic Mike, after all they had 3somes together and I'm sure many clients in common.

[zeyfur]

Dosent surprise me. Mikey s sly bashing of other escorts is nothing new.

[marylander1940]

Dosent surprise me. Mikey s sly bashing of other escorts is nothing new.

 

Not only an escorts but those "visiting pornstars who are flooding DC", "4 times a week he has to do (finish) the job for them charging half their rate", 150 in, 200 outcalls.

[+ José Soplanucas]

How long is Steven Draker going to be timed out? Is it temporary or permanent? I know he is not very popular, but we did have good rapport the short time between me becoming active here and he being banned. Is. The time out information shared with everyone or it stays between the admins and the problematic one?

[marylander1940]

How long is Steven Draker going to be timed out? Is it temporary or permanent? I know he is not very popular, but we did have good rapport the short time between me becoming active here and he being banned. Is. The time out information shared with everyone or it stays between the admins and the problematic one?

 

I had a couple of feuds with him but he was honest, and he was very active posting new threads about subjects that sometimes had nothing to do with escorting.

[TruHart1]

How long is Steven Draker going to be timed out? Is it temporary or permanent? I know he is not very popular, but we did have good rapport the short time between me becoming active here and he being banned. Is. The time out information shared with everyone or it stays between the admins and the problematic one?

I had a couple of feuds with him but he was honest, and he was very active posting new threads about subjects that sometimes had nothing to do with escorting.

Sorry to say, TPTB have decided Mr. Draker will never be allowed back on the forum. There were times when he was much too caustic and got involved in name calling here, but I always found him to be an excellent escort. The last review I wrote about him was declined. Daddy said the site would no longer accept any reviews of Steven Draker.

 

TruHart1

[+ purplekow]

Sorry to say, TPTB have decided Mr. Draker will never be allowed back on the forum. There were times when he was much too caustic and got involved in name calling here, but I always found him to be an excellent escort. The last review I wrote about him was declined. Daddy said the site would no longer accept any reviews of Steven Draker.

 

TruHart1

I guess that was while the Escort of the Year was still a darling. Mr. Draker was an early and loud voice in that mess.

While Mike certainly knows how to backdoor compliment himself, I do not believe an escort has been named in any of the posts in this or the previous thread, so I am curious how many posters are so sure they know of whom he wrote.

[TruHart1]

No, the escort in question is never named, but all the posters here who defend him have asked by PM and do know who Mikey gossips of.

 

TruHart1

[TruHart1]

One other comment regarding that "unfortunate practice" thread: Mikey criticizes the escort in question for never attending the DC forum get-togethers or Palm Springs get-togethers and implies this somehow makes the escort less professional. I don't see the logic. Is it comparative to saying because someone may not want to play in my sandbox with me, there must be something wrong with him? I believe that's called circular logic.

 

TruHart1

[+ purplekow]

So in essence this thread is to defend the escort that is unnamed here but spoken about in whispers by the OP. Okay. Still the defense is moot for many of us as we do not know who you are defending, only who you are attacking. At least, that clarifies the agenda. Thanks.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Sorry to say, TPTB have decided Mr. Draker will never be allowed back on the forum. There were times when he was much too caustic and got involved in name calling here, but I always found him to be an excellent escort. The last review I wrote about him was declined. Daddy said the site would no longer accept any reviews of Steven Draker.

 

TruHart1

Wow, he was always nice to me. What is TPTB?

[+ quoththeraven]

How long is Steven Draker going to be timed out? Is it temporary or permanent? I know he is not very popular, but we did have good rapport the short time between me becoming active here and he being banned. Is. The time out information shared with everyone or it stays between the admins and the problematic one?

 

It is between the admins and the probematic one. However, I believe that he is in fact permanently unwelcome here now. I for one am glad. If you are interested in details, PM me.

 

TPTB is an acronym for the powers that be.

[+ quoththeraven]

So in essence this thread is to defend the escort that is unnamed here but spoken about in whispers by the OP. Okay. Still the defense is moot for many of us as we do not know who you are defending, only who you are attacking. At least, that clarifies the agenda. Thanks.

 

Mikey identified him today, though not by name, in the unfortunate practices thread. That is how I figured out who is being discussed.

 

Also, there is a third thread that actually mentions the other escort's name to which many of the same posters who are defending him here responded, so it's unfair to accuse them of hiding his identity.

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/something-odd-with-darios-reviews.115056/

 

My viewing of threads here has been hit-or-miss for the past week or so; I didn't see the other thread until after I saw the posts in the unfortunate practices thread and this one.

[marylander1940]

Mikey identified him today, though not by name, in the unfortunate practices thread. That is how I figured out who is being discussed.

 

....

 

Exactly, he doesn't like to gossip yet he does, he doesn't like to badmouth his competitors yet his rant against pornstars (limp dicks, look pretty, don't fuck, don't get fucked, lazy, drugs, and call him to satisfy the client) is something you don't even here in Fox News...

 

maybe among the visiting lazy good for nothing pornstar he should mentioned Killian James is not that kind of pornstar, obviously he won't mess with him because he posts in the forum. LOL

 

I've been telling his name by PM, just like Mike but defending him!

[+ purplekow]

Mikey identified him today, though not by name, in the unfortunate practices thread. That is how I figured out who is being discussed.

 

Also, there is a third thread that actually mentions the other escort's name to which many of the same posters who are defending him here responded, so it's unfair to accuse them of hiding his identity.

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/something-odd-with-darios-reviews.115056/

 

My viewing of threads here has been hit-or-miss for the past week or so; I didn't see the other thread until after I saw the posts in the unfortunate practices thread and this one.

 

I was not accusing them of hiding his identity. It is appropriate not to mention him by name.

 

The title of this thread is: In Defense of an Escort Attacked by Magic Mike. It seems less of a defense and more a counterattack. So I would be fine with A Counterattack on Magic Mike after he Attacked Another Escort. I have no interest in finding out who the initial escort in question is. I think that there is always a reason some motivation for an attack and one needs to judge that in accepting to know about the attack. That goes for a counterattack as well.

 

As I do not have a dog in this fight, I will back away. I just prefer if dogs weren't fighting.