Computerized calls from the IRS

[Frequentflier]

As has been said, the IRS doesn't make those calls. And Federal agents of any kind aren't going to call people and threaten arrest. If they want to arrest someone, they just show up.

 

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nomorobo.com

[alexslaveboy]

Anyone else receiving these calls. I have gotten three today and about 6 in the last week, Computerized voice indicating that the Federal Government will be arresting me within hours unless I respond to this call.

Anyone else receiving these scam phone calls?

Purplekow

It's ridiculous they call 4 times a day it's a pain in the ass!

I called AT&T to complain as I signed up for the do not call list years ago

They gave me the number for the FCC to file a formal complaint as this seems to be a countrywide scam!!!

Ugh!

Alex

[whipped guy]

I have been getting a series of calls on my cell phone from a town where a good friend lives. I have his home number, his cell phone number, and that of his wife in my cell phone so I know that it not from either of them. However, I always think of them when I get the calls which occur about once every two weeks. I always ignore them and especially since they always come from a slightly different number. In any event, I did a search on the numbers and they all were flagged as related to an identity theft scam. Go figure?!?!?!

 

Also, has anyone ever received a call where it says that you are calling yourself on your own house phone or cell phone??? It's confusing enough that you might be tempted to answer the call. Almost that is!

 

Incidentally, a couple of years ago I was getting annoying calls on a daily basis from an incomplete phone number on my cell phone. Verizon said that there was no easy way to block them because the phone number did not have the required number of digits to do so. There was an alternative that would involve a monthly fee. Fortunately the phone calls stopped shortly after making the inquiry and I have not had a similar problem since.

[+ Phactor]

How's this for an IRS scammer? ... A scammer's response to the County sheriff? Priceless

[whipped guy]

How's this for an IRS scammer? ... A scammer's response to the County sheriff? Priceless

 

Priceless indeed!!!!

[instudiocity]

That's why conservatives keep cutting the IRS budget. Reduce oversight, stress the system, bust it up.

 

Meanwhile, I hope your boss gets busted. He's the worst kind of welfare cheat, living off my dime (and of course yours).

HUH? How is he cheating WELFARE by not filing a tax return? How is he living off your dime or mine? He's just not filing a tax return --- that doesn't mean he's not paying his Federal Income Taxes through payroll deductions, that doesn't mean he's not paying his share of Sociable Insecurity through payroll deductions. It just means he's not filing a tax return demonstrating that enough tax has been withheld from his pay to cover his tax liability. In order for him to get away with it for more than 2-3 years his withholdings are sufficient to cover the taxes due after the standard deductions.

 

None of which implies he's getting Welfare benefits nor living off your dime. It just means he's not filing a tax return.

 

Next time you bash conservatives, it would be good for you to know something about the discussion.

 

Me, I'm betting Mo Mason's boss is a Democrat, after all he doesn't have any problem with how much of HIS money he's giving the government. Hell, he's probably giving more than the law requires.

[Kenny]

his share of Sociable Insecurity

The amount of income that you can earn before you are required to file a tax return depends on the type of income, your age and your filing status. Your "sociable insecurity" comment pretty much explains your right-wing world view. Ugh. And you know something about the discussion? Although you have no clue about his boss' political registration, your declared assumption that he's not Republican further discredits you.

[instudiocity]

The amount of income that you can earn before you are required to file a tax return depends on the type of income, your age and your filing status. Your "sociable insecurity" comment pretty much explains your right-wing world view. Ugh. And you know something about the discussion? Although you have no clue about his boss' political registration, your declared assumption that he's not Republican further discredits you.

Right, just like you trashing Conservatives for fucking up the IRS.

 

Again, to repeat myself for a third time, IF his tax withholding is greater than or equal to the tax due on his adjusted taxable income, the IRS will ignore him. If he doesn't owe based on IRS assumptions, they will call him an idiot and ignore the surplus taxes they are collecting from him.

 

As to your failure to react to the refutation of your bogus welfare and living off your dime comments. Your silence speaks volumes.

 

Typical lawyer response- if the facts are with you argue the facts, if the facts are against you, trash you opponent.

[Kenny]

Right, just like you trashing Conservatives for fucking up the IRS.

 

Again, to repeat myself for a third time, IF his tax withholding is greater than or equal to the tax due on his adjusted taxable income, the IRS will ignore him. If he doesn't owe based on IRS assumptions, they will call him an idiot and ignore the surplus taxes they are collecting from him.

 

As to your failure to react to the refutation of your bogus welfare and living off your dime comments. Your silence speaks volumes.

 

Typical lawyer response- if the facts are with you argue the facts, if the facts are against you, trash you opponent.

Make up all the b.s. you want. Your "explanation," which is common knowledge, that no tax filing is necessary when nothing is owed is typical deflection. As Mo explained, not only did the IRS not ignore his boss's failure to file, they came to see him and issued a warning.

 

Not a "thank you!" A warning. What, you think we're supposed to believe he was not getting all the refunds he was due?

 

Let's replay the tape, shall we? Here's the original brief comment:

"My boss makes over $100,000 a year and he hasn't filed his taxes since 2011. They don't care too much. They did warn him a few years ago, but it was not by phone. They showed up in person."

 

The implication of likely tax avoidance is clear. Your ifs, ands and buts are irrelevant. Time to take out the trash.

[+ SundayZip]

My boss makes over $100,000 a year and he hasn't filed his taxes since 2011. They don't care too much.

 

HUH? How is he cheating WELFARE by not filing a tax return? How is he living off your dime or mine? He's just not filing a tax return...

 

If the boss is overpaying taxes and has not filed a tax return to get a refund, then he's stupid (I doubt this is the case). If he's underpaying his taxes, then I agree with Kenny. He's no better than the worst kind of welfare cheat.

[+ SundayZip]

Anyone else receiving these calls. I have gotten three today and about 6 in the last week, Computerized voice indicating that the Federal Government will be arresting me within hours unless I respond to this call.

Anyone else receiving these scam phone calls?

 

I haven't gotten the fake IRS call in a while, but I do get scam calls from someone pretending to be Microsoft support. I'll play along for a bit and then ask the caller what he's wearing (it's always a guy). If that doesn't get him off the phone, I ask him if he has a big cock. That usually ends the call.

[Frequentflier]

I haven't gotten the fake IRS call in a while, but I do get scam calls from someone pretending to be Microsoft support. I'll play along for a bit and then ask the caller what he's wearing (it's always a guy). If that doesn't get him off the phone, I ask him if he has a big cock. That usually ends the call.

 

Nice. I'll have to try that if a call gets through the screening. And if its a woman called I can just say I prefer to talk with men - good looking men!

[Frequentflier]

I know of a married couple who flagrantly evaded payment of taxes for years. He was a very cocky medical professional and had pretty significant income (expensive cars, airplane, beach house, etc.). I'm not sure how it took the IRS so long to find them but when they did they pursued them with a vengeance worthy of Keyser Söze, seizing and freezing everything they had (and justly so). I recall one story of the wife, who was a fake-bake bottle-blonde, being pulled over on the highway by law enforcement and being left standing on the side of the road as her Jaguar was towed away. The last I heard they were living in poverty in a small apartment.

 

A recent estimated of unpaid annual Federal taxes is $450 Billion. Maybe if more people committing tax fraud like this couple were handled similarly that number would be lower. I can't get away with anything. If I underpaid by $100 a SWAT team would be making morning coffee in the kitchen waiting for me. And the butt heads in Congress cut the IRS (so we get bad service when we call and more $ goes uncollected), cut TSA and yet can't spend enough on "defense".

 

So since the budget isn't balanced, unpaid taxes end up adding to Federal deficits and put pressure on increasing tax rates for everyone else (although not when Republicans are in charge of Congress). People who evade taxes should face significant consequences.

[Frequentflier]

HUH? How is he cheating WELFARE by not filing a tax return? How is he living off your dime or mine? He's just not filing a tax return --- that doesn't mean he's not paying his Federal Income Taxes through payroll deductions, that doesn't mean he's not paying his share of Sociable Insecurity through payroll deductions. It just means he's not filing a tax return demonstrating that enough tax has been withheld from his pay to cover his tax liability. In order for him to get away with it for more than 2-3 years his withholdings are sufficient to cover the taxes due after the standard deductions.

 

None of which implies he's getting Welfare benefits nor living off your dime. It just means he's not filing a tax return.

 

Next time you bash conservatives, it would be good for you to know something about the discussion.

 

Me, I'm betting Mo Mason's boss is a Democrat, after all he doesn't have any problem with how much of HIS money he's giving the government. Hell, he's probably giving more than the law requires.

 

Doesn't he have to file a return regardless of whether it would show he owes money because he's over the income level cutoff for filing? He has no taxable interest or dividends or money from escorting he deposits the cash from into his bank account? No other legitimate tax deductions he'd like to take to get a refund so he can give that cash to his favorite subordinate employee? I'm thinking the standard deduction is likely less than state tax withholding/mortgage interest/property taxes/etc. I think there are penalties for failure to file even if there is no additional money due.

 

But I file so am not an expert on the ramifications of those that don't. I used to be an expert at the IRS but the conservatives cut the budget, resulting in the loss of my job, so more Republicans could cheat on their taxes and get away with it Or maybe it was the extra hours I worked focused on auditing the tax returns of politicians and bombastic real estate "moguls" that live in Manhattan and evade paying the required amounts!?!

[+ not2rowdy]

... I just keep them on the phone until they say they have to hang up. Then they don't call back."

 

If they want to waste my time I'll try to waste theirs. I just set the handset near the TV, walk away and see how long it takes before I hear the beeping disconnect. You can even pick an obnoxious TV channel of your choice. When the entertainment is over block the number.

[instudiocity]

Doesn't he have to file a return regardless of whether it would show he owes money because he's over the income level cutoff for filing? He has no taxable interest or dividends or money from escorting he deposits the cash from into his bank account? No other legitimate tax deductions he'd like to take to get a refund so he can give that cash to his favorite subordinate employee? I'm thinking the standard deduction is likely less than state tax withholding/mortgage interest/property taxes/etc. I think there are penalties for failure to file even if there is no additional money due.

Ours is a "voluntary" income tax system. We "voluntarily" pay our income taxes and we "voluntarily" file a tax return showing how much we've earned and how much was withheld and how much is due or due to be refunded.

 

My guess would be it miscreant isn't earning dividends and interest, or it's so little that when added to his total income and after standard deductions and personal exemption, he's still withholding enough tax to cover what the IRS calculates he owes. By law, you're only REQUIRED to file a tax return IF you owe more taxes than were withheld from your payroll. If you don't owe, you're not "required" to file a return because it's VOLUNTARY.

 

This is how the givemint slipped it past the US Constitution and the Supreme Court.

[rvwnsd]

If they want to waste my time I'll try to waste theirs. I just set the handset near the TV, walk away and see how long it takes before I hear the beeping disconnect. You can even pick an obnoxious TV channel of your choice. When the entertainment is over block the number.

I think my 82 year old father wasn't thinking about that.

[Frequentflier]

Ours is a "voluntary" income tax system. We "voluntarily" pay our income taxes and we "voluntarily" file a tax return showing how much we've earned and how much was withheld and how much is due or due to be refunded.

 

My guess would be it miscreant isn't earning dividends and interest, or it's so little that when added to his total income and after standard deductions and personal exemption, he's still withholding enough tax to cover what the IRS calculates he owes. By law, you're only REQUIRED to file a tax return IF you owe more taxes than were withheld from your payroll. If you don't owe, you're not "required" to file a return because it's VOLUNTARY.

 

This is how the givemint slipped it past the US Constitution and the Supreme Court.

 

I was curious so.....

 

IRS Pub 501

 

"Who Must File - If you are a U.S. citizen or resident alien, whether you must file a federal income tax return depends on your gross income, your filing status, your age, and whether you are a dependent. For details, see Table 1 and Table 2. You also must file if one of the situations described in Table 3 applies. The filing requirements apply even if you owe no tax. You may have to pay a penalty if you are required to file a return but fail to do so. If you willfully fail to file a return, you may be subject to criminal prosecution.

 

Married with income = or > $20,600 - "must" file. Half that income level if Single."

[+ quoththeraven]

Ours is a "voluntary" income tax system. We "voluntarily" pay our income taxes and we "voluntarily" file a tax return showing how much we've earned and how much was withheld and how much is due or due to be refunded.

 

My guess would be it miscreant isn't earning dividends and interest, or it's so little that when added to his total income and after standard deductions and personal exemption, he's still withholding enough tax to cover what the IRS calculates he owes. By law, you're only REQUIRED to file a tax return IF you owe more taxes than were withheld from your payroll. If you don't owe, you're not "required" to file a return because it's VOLUNTARY.

 

This is how the givemint slipped it past the US Constitution and the Supreme Court.

 

Wrong. And the 16th amendment is what's responsible for today's tax system. Before that, a direct tax on income was not permitted.

[+ deej]

lol that's one I haven't had in awhile.

we are calling from Microsoft. we have detected a problem with your computer and require remote access. will you give us permission?

 

Tell them "I don't have a computer."