Lady players: Serena Williams unloads on tournament director for sexist comments.

[Kenny]

Despite being born & raised Catholic, despite Catholic schooling K through 12, and despite more years as an altar boy than I can count, the one teaching of Christ I have never grasped is "turn the other cheek." My motto is more "payback's a bitch."

 

When I exposed your relative ignorance about the sport of tennis, instead of showing a speck of humility, you play the victim and accuse me of condescension. And then out of the wide blue yonder you start ranting about Bill Clinton and the legal definition of rape ... huh wha??

 

Hey, plenty of times in my life I have pretended to know more than I did. I think just about everybody does on occasion. But in the event I'm busted, I don't get all nasty toward the person who exposed me. I do the gracious thing & shut my yap. But you and I are obviously very different people.

 

Now then, somebody please explain why women should get equal prize money but not doubles and mixed doubles players.

LOL! The one Christian teaching you've never learned is "turn the other cheek" -- the foundational teaching of the entire religion? LOL!

[mike carey]

Does that mean that the next time I expose you and you get embarrassed, maybe just maybe you won't get all nasty & spiteful? Please oh please ...

You didn't expose me and I didn't get embarrassed. You only expose yourself and your own spitefulness.

[BSR]

LOL! The one Christian teaching you've never learned is "turn the other cheek" -- the foundational teaching of the entire religion? LOL!

Kenny, one of these days will you tell us the specifics of your oppression? Because only someone who is, or at least feels, horribly oppressed can

hate conservatives with the virulent hatred you spew every single day.

 

For all I know, you are truly oppressed. Maybe you've suffered enormous pain in your life, and if that were the case, I would understand.

[marylander1940]

Kenny, one of these days will you tell us the specifics of your oppression? Because only someone who is, or at least feels, horribly oppressed can

hate conservatives with the virulent hatred you spew every single day.

 

For all I know, you are truly oppressed. Maybe you've suffered enormous pain in your life, and if that were the case, I would understand.

 

There's more hatred on your side than in ours, we (Liberals) are more "mind your own business" kind of people.

 

Damn you keep falling for cultural wars over and over again, maybe even when you (and your private behavior because I'm sure you're in the closet) were the subject of them... Ohio 2004.

 

Despite being born & raised Catholic, despite Catholic schooling K through 12, and despite more years as an altar boy than I can count, the one teaching of Christ I have never grasped is "turn the other cheek." My motto is more "payback's a bitch."

 

 

Me too, such a catholic education didn't keep me from being a homosexual. LOL

[BSR]

You didn't expose me and I didn't get embarrassed. You only expose yourself and your own spitefulness.

I didn't expose you? Bullshit. Only someone who doesn't know much about tennis says "games" when referring to tennis matches. But for you to admit that would require some humility, and you obviously ...

[BSR]

There's more hatred on your side than in ours, we (Liberals) are more "mind your own business" kind of people.

 

Damn you keep falling for cultural wars over and over again, maybe even when you (and your private behavior because I'm sure you're in the closet) were the subject of them... Ohio 2004.

Poor marylander1940, so embarrassed in another thread, so he felt the need to lash out at me in this one.

[mike carey]

I didn't expose you? Bullshit. Only someone who doesn't know much about tennis says "games" when referring to tennis matches. But for you to admit that would require some humility, and you obviously .

I bow before your superior knowledge.

[marylander1940]

Poor marylander1940, so embarrassed in another thread, so he felt the need to lash out at me in this one.

 

I started this thread, thank you for posting.

 

Have you been drinking? One more time it's Marylander with an "M".

 

Gentlemen:

 

Judge by "yinzselves".

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/la-resistance-hopes-for-contested-convention.112424/#post-1075123

[+ WilliamM]

The men may draw more ticket sales than the women, but I can only comment on how it works at the Australian Open. Tickets are sold for the afternoon and evening sessions in the outer courts in the early phases and for the show courts all through the tournament. A ticket covers the whole session, either afternoon or evening and there will be women's and men's games in both. Top notch men's and women's games will both fill the stadium.

 

Mike, I attended the Australian Open in 1995. It is true that top notch matches fill the stadium. But, mens' match with players below the very best draw far more fans than womens' match with players at that same level.

 

BSR may be right about matches vs. games, but he could have made the same point in a very different, more kind, way.

[mike carey]

Thanks WilliamM.

[TUOT89]

Moore should have been more diplomatic, but he was not wrong.

 

Year in and year out, the WTA has failed to meet its player commitments to Indian Wells. In return for more prize money, it promised to supply a certain number of the top 10 players. The WTA has never delivered on that promise.

 

When Charlie Pasarell (the former tournament director at IW) first raised the issue, that is how he explained it. The problem was not equal work, it was equal commitment under the terms of a contract.

 

It is quite disingenuous of the WTA to pull the sexism card to cover up its own incompetence. Truth be told and however un-PC this is going to sound, more prize money has not been good for the WTA. It has lessened the interdependence between the players and the tournaments. In the 80's and 90's, the WTA players were more committed to the sport perhaps because they understood only too well how the success of a tournament depended on their showing up. This started becoming a problem for the tournaments after the generation of Graf/Sanchez-Vicario retired, but the WTA never acknowledged the problem despite the protestations of more than one tournament director. Instead, the WTA let tournaments like the one in San Diego die because poor draws at WTA-only events has always meant lower ticket sales and lack of sponsors. It is not just sexism that keeps the players from earning equal prize money at the WTA-only tournaments; it is also their own incompetence.

 

Of course, when you can always count on old-timers like Moore to make themselves easy scapegoats, why should the WTA have to address the real shortcomings in its own product? Indeed, as far as IW is concerned, the WTA can continue to do just what Moore rightly accused them of doing.

[zeyfur]

The only person in this thread who is being rude and full of hatred is BSR.

[Kenny]

Kenny, one of these days will you tell us the specifics of your oppression? Because only someone who is, or at least feels, horribly oppressed can

hate conservatives with the virulent hatred you spew every single day.

 

For all I know, you are truly oppressed. Maybe you've suffered enormous pain in your life, and if that were the case, I would understand.

Oh dear. Projecting much? Tell us, Juanita, just what went on way back when, during your altar boy days at St. Bernard's?

[+ WilliamM]

Oh dear. Projecting much? Tell us, Juanita, just what went on way back when, during your altar boy days at St. Bernard's?

 

BSR:

 

"As I said before, I don't bring a knife to a gunfight."

 

"The one teaching of Christ I have never grasped is "turn the other cheek." My motto is more "payback is a bitch."

 

The first comment is something only a bully would say.

 

The second comment is far worse and also very sad.

[BSR]

BSR:

 

"As I said before, I don't bring a knife to a gunfight."

 

"The one teaching of Christ I have never grasped is "turn the other cheek." My motto is more "payback is a bitch."

 

The first comment is something only a bully would say.

 

The second comment is far worse and also very sad.

That bully would be Barack Obama. I sheepishly admit that I borrowed the line from him.

 

As for the second line, tough shit if you don't like it. Republicans, conservatives and Tea partiers are trashed and smeared every single day on this message board. We are called racists, misogynists, xenophobes, and every kind of bigot under the sun. The hate on this board comes overwhelmingly from liberals and is dircted toward conservatives. If you expect me to take all this bullshit like some pathetic little doormat, you couldn't be more mistaken. PS - how telling that you leap to attack me for my remarks yet never bothered to call Kenny out for his contemptible derision of Bill Clinton's victims. Yet again, another case of a liberal who cares about nothing except his own selfish benefit, Example #713,582.

 

Now if I could tie together the bullshit accusations of bigotry with this thread, what they have in common is that they use political correctness as a weapon. Political correctness, unfortunately, has far too often become the go-to tactic to shut down anybody who disagrees with you. It must feel soooooooo gooooooood! You scream "racist" or "sexist" and presto! You shut down whoever had the nerve to disagree with you. The problem with that tactic is that while you may win in the moment, the issue or problem doesn't go away.

 

In the case of the WTA and Indian Wells, Serena & the WTA succeeded in getting the guy who made the coattails remark fired, so it feels like a victory. But the two major problems persist: 1) as TUOT89 correctly points out, the WTA's made a mess of its own house. The branding of their tournaments makes no sense - nobody outside of the WTA knows what "Premier," "Premier Mandatory," and "International" mean whereas even an 8-year-old tennis fan understands the significance of and differences between Masters 1000, ATP 500, and ATP 250. Plus the player commitment problem has plagued the WTA for years, and nobody has bothered to figure it out. 2) the resentment from the journeymen of the ATP Tour doesn't go away just because the Indian Wells guy got fired. It just means they'll be a lot more careful to avoid talking about the problem on the record. Sure, the WTA won the PR battle, but these problems are serious and remain unresolved.

[zeyfur]

Is " Homophobia" political correctness as well ?

 

Ben Carson is not homophobic but......

 

http://www.advocate.com/election/2015/10/29/7-things-ben-carson-believes-are-not-homophobic

 

Another example of this bloody political correctness !

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/19/todd-akin-abortion-legitimate-rape_n_1807381.html

[+ WilliamM]

As for the second line, tough shit if you don't like it. Republicans, conservatives and Tea partiers are trashed and smeared every single day on this message board. We are called racists, misogynists, xenophobes, and every kind of bigot under the sun. The hate on this board comes overwhelmingly from liberals and is dircted toward conservatives. If you expect me to take all this bullshit like some pathetic little doormat, you couldn't be more mistaken.

 

You have some serious anger problems. I am not expecting anything from you, one way or another, because I know nothing about you beyond what I read on this site.

[Kenny]

That bully would be Barack Obama. I sheepishly admit that I borrowed the line from him.

BSR has a context problem. He thinks a quote is a quote, and it doesn't matter what context it's used in -- Obama's apt one, or BSR's inane one.

 

Maybe that's why he's offered yet one more post merely repeating his blah-blah-blah schtick about poor oppressed conservative bigots. Just more cut-and-paste, like the Obama quote, from a tiresome troll.

[Kenny]

You have some serious anger problems. I am not expecting anything from you, one way or another, because I know nothing about yet beyond what I read on this site.

He's a troll. He pokes a stick in your eye for fun, just so he can sit back and watch the reaction. (Do you suppose he jerks off while he's reading it?) You can tell Juanita's just a troll because all his posts are essentially the same, over and over and over again.

[+ WilliamM]

 

I agree with Novak about prize money. But, he can not win that argument. Glad to know that he is 'talking' instead with his tennis skills.