Sexually Transmitted Zika Virus confirmed. Will all yinz on PrEP go back to use condoms?

[marylander1940]

After the Zika virus was transmitted through sexual contact in Dallas, Texas, officials from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have released new guidelines for travelers to and from outbreak regions.

 

The disease primarily is transmitted by mosquitoes, but in rare instances it has been reported to be transmitted through blood transfusions and sexual contact. The officials from the Dallas health department said that a traveler came back from a Zika-affected country and passed the disease to a partner.

 

Guidelines released today gives new information about avoiding sexual transmission of the virus.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/sexually-transmitted-zika-virus-case-us-prompts-cdc/story?id=36737814

 

Previously mentioned on this thread.

 

My guess, global epidemic will get population back to controllable levels. Zika won't do it. SARS did not do it. AIDs did not do it. Ebola did not do it. There will be one that will though. Airborne with long life span outside host. Long period of incubation. Then quickly virulent with high mortality. Long period of incubation allows for travel out of local areas. Airborne limits effective control by ordinary means and the long life span just worsens that. Short course of illness once symptoms stop, prevents effective treatment once symptoms start. Viruses will eventually get it right.

[+ dutchmuch]

Put on the Love Glove folks.

[marylander1940]

Put on the Love Glove folks.

 

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[MikeyGMin]

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I really don't understand why you insist on maintaining that PrEP equals no condom use. Despite the fact that anyone on this forum who has mentioned they are on PrEP has stated that they will continue to use them. At least I'm not aware of anyone saying they are going to use it in lieu of condoms.

 

It's almost like you are gleefully waiting for someone to catch something so you can be proven right that condoms are the only way to go.

[mattr]

According to the most recent guidance, Zika is really only dangerous to pregnant women because it is likely to cause horrible birth defects. For everyone else, it can cause mild flu like symptoms for a few days to a week. There are plenty of excellent reasons to have safe sex but I think potentially being exposed to Zika is one of the least urgent of them.

[MikeyGMin]

Yeah, not particularly scary for a gay man. Of course you would want to avoid it so that you didn't accidentally transmit it - - via mosquito - - to a pregnant woman.

[mike carey]

Of course you would want to avoid it so that you didn't accidentally transmit it - - via mosquito - - to a pregnant woman.

Don't forget that transmission of this disease by mosquito requires the presence of aedes aegypti, the one that transmits yellow fever and dengue fever, not just any mosquito. This species only occurs in some southeastern states of the US.

[+ Funguy]

Don't forget that transmission of this disease by mosquito requires the presence of aedes aegypti, the one that transmits yellow fever and dengue fever, not just any mosquito. This species only occurs in some southeastern states of the US.

 

Unfortunately, Mike, both aedes aegypti and aedes albopictus mosquitos (both can carry Zika virus) have been found in Arizona and parts of California as well! Fortunately, they only carry it if they have bitten (and fed on) someone who already carries the Zika virus. And it is only the females who bite. I was going to say, "Ain't it always the case" but then I remembered a certain escort or two whom I have had the pleasure of being bitten by! (sorry, there's a dangling something somewhere in that last sentence)

[curiousnomore]

Use condoms like I do.

 

I negate MY risk. Period.

[Kuriousity]

Well, I just eat garlic....and keep mosquitos at bay.

[Juan Vancouver]

Well, I just eat garlic....and keep mosquitos at bay.

 

And kissers?

[Reluctant Daddy]

Speaking of which, the virus has been found in saliva. Possible transmission through kissing?

[Kuriousity]

And kissers?

My sex life is in the shitter...kissing is not something I worry about these days...lol

[LADoug1]

Speaking of which, the virus has been found in saliva. Possible transmission through kissing?

Just heard on the news that kissing is a possible transmission risk. OMG!

[+ Funguy]

Just don't kiss me while you have a slight fever and a rash!!!

[Despardo]

From what I have read the virus is usually really dangerous only if you are pregnant, otherwise you are sick for a few days, then it passes. Basically, if you or a potential partner have a rash and a fever, avoid physical contact as you would with the flu or a bad cold. Also avoid mosquitoes, but in February outside of the tropics, that should be relatively easy.

[+ Lance_Navarro]

I'm not going to freak out about this nor change any of my sex practices. Every year there is some virus or flu that gets all kinds of news coverage and ends up killing fewer people than the common cold.

 

I am on PReP and I do use condoms less than I used to, however I am still happy to use them when it's the desire of my client. Remember everyone that you're just as likely to get other STI'S from oral sex, and PReP is showing a near 100% efficiency at preventing HIV when taken daily. Sex without a condom DOES feel better, I'm not going to apologize for that feeling and observation.

 

There is no such thing as "safe sex", only "safer sex" and sex on PrEP even without a condom is safer sex. It's not the form that many of us have become comfortable with, but we will, it is the future. Everyone should do what they are comfortable with, but we do need a bit of a paradigm shift here. In the same way that I hear guys (clients included) who mention they won't have sex with guys who say they are HIV positive, and they don't understand the significance of being undetectable.

[seaboy4hire]

I have a feeling this is all a distraction. Whats the dude behind the curtain doing that he is trying to cause a distraction. I'm marking this up with the stupid fucking hysteria of swine flu, mad cow disease, bird flu, ebola and whatever bull shit I might be forgetting.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[caliguy]

I'm not going to freak out about this nor change any of my sex practices. Every year there is some virus or flu that gets all kinds of news coverage and ends up killing fewer people than the common cold.

 

I am on PReP and I do use condoms less than I used to, however I am still happy to use them when it's the desire of my client. Remember everyone that you're just as likely to get other STI'S from oral sex, and PReP is showing a near 100% efficiency at preventing HIV when taken daily. Sex without a condom DOES feel better, I'm not going to apologize for that feeling and observation.

 

There is no such thing as "safe sex", only "safer sex" and sex on PrEP even without a condom is safer sex. It's not the form that many of us have become comfortable with, but we will, it is the future. Everyone should do what they are comfortable with, but we do need a bit of a paradigm shift here. In the same way that I hear guys (clients included) who mention they won't have sex with guys who say they are HIV positive, and they don't understand the significance of being undetectable.

Thanks for being open and honest about it. There's a time and place for everything but lets face it. The reason most take PreP is for going completely natural ie no condoms. Like you said PreP is more effective then condoms even by itself. As far as other diseases go you can still just as easily get them using condoms too.

[LADoug1]

There is no such thing as "safe sex", only "safer sex"

 

There are some sex practices that are completely safe i.e. mutual masturbation w/o kissing. It depends on your definition of sex.

[LADoug1]

The reason most take PreP is for going completely natural ie no condoms.

 

I regret this is probably true. Wish it wasn't.

[Juan Vancouver]

The reason most take PreP is for going completely natural ie no condoms. .

 

Are you most?

 

If you are not most, then you are not able to know for sure what most's reasons for PREP are, you only have your own personal opinion.

 

It's hard to see so much personal bias get indiscriminately mixed in with factual information.

 

If you are sharing a personal opinion, state that clearly. That would be incredibly helpful.

[caliguy]

Are you most?

 

If you are not most, then you are not able to know for sure what most's reasons for PREP are, you only have your own personal opinion.

 

It's hard to see so much personal bias get indiscriminately mixed in with factual information.

 

If you are sharing a personal opinion, state that clearly. That would be incredibly helpful.

I've yet to meet anyone that does both all the time and I've met allot of PreP people. That also goes for the Grindr, Manhunt, etc ads too. When someone advertises being on it they're not advertising condom use too.

 

Not saying both aren't used sometimes or like Lance said about the circumstances. However, it's more an exception then a rule.