Dating

[ChrisWydeman]

Im more of a dog person and even then can't get a dog as my place has carpet all over. So my bf is pretty much my 10 inch dildo I use every other night before bedtime. It never argues with me, it always gives me what i want, and its always there when i need him the most

Have you tried squarepeg? makes being single a lot easier lol

 

https://www.squarepegtoys.com

[+ José Soplanucas]

That might be what you are reading into it, but what has been written is different. Open relationships are simply not for everyone. Some like them, some don't. Some like them and still find them difficult.

 

You are perfectly entitled to choose whatever the fuck you want for yourself. But for God's sakes, stop trying to convince us that your hateful limited view of the world is universally true. It ain't.

 

 

 

Jesus Christ! You just won't stop, will you!

 

I actually would like to amend this: If you are intelligent, your dating pool is quite limited. It's a curse, but it is also a huge blessing.

 

ANY intelligent person understands that he/she can't /shouldn't date everyone. That would really suck. From the limited dating pool, however, one is able to find wonderful people with whom you can grow and share.

 

Yes, since I am an escort I won't be able to date the enormous pool of stuck ups, hillbillies, close minded, judgmental people who can barely see beyond their own nose and would be unable to see the beautiful, loving work that this is. Luckily, I am only attracted to men whose intelligence allows them to see beyond what their society taught them.

 

I assume that since you are not an escort your dating pool is huge. You must be constantly juggling several partners at a time... except you are not into non monogamy, I forgot. I sincerely wish you enjoy your pool, and I true to god hope you will stop inflicting your hurtful beliefs on to others.

 

 

 

Why? Don't like intelligent discussions, do you?

 

If we all came here to agree and strengthen our many biases, this would not be a forum, this would be a Party.

 

I for one am thrilled this subject came up again and many thriving escorts shared with us their marital status. I love to see loving, caring, intelligent men thriving.

@Juan Vancouver , I want to kiss you right now.

[+ Gar1eth]

Can you just imagine being an escort and in a relationship with a person who's not in this business and lets say you two are having a date night or hanging out or whatever and you get a phone call/text from a client or regular who wants to meet now. Like what the hell do you do or say? Do you just be honest and tell him you have to leave now bc you have to go do business, i mean any boyfriend overtime no whatever how strong they are it would bother them, i don't know its just my 2 cents from a young boy here

 

Ok I'm not an escort and could never be an escort. But I've noticed that even escorts whose ads say they are available 24/7 -seldom are. I noticed this because I often was horny at 1 or 2 AM, and in spite of the 'accepted knowledge' that the later a client calls the more likely he is to be drunk or high (which actually I agree with), I never was. What with varying shifts for 25 years, sleep apnea, and liking the night better than the day, my sleep schedule has never really been normal. I realize you want to build up your clientele. But you are definitely allowed to put something like ' I don't take calls after 11 pm on Tuesdays' or maybe even 'I don't take calls after 4 pm on Thursdays'. Many escorts with Twitter feeds often tweet-I am available for the next three hours. I'm sure there are other ways to carve out 'me'-time. But I could see how for this to work, the boyfriend would need to be just as flexible outside the bedroom as he was inside. :D

 

 

I moved to Chicago last September and have been on a few dates most of which were just awful. I wouldn't say dating as an escort is hard, I would say that dating in general is.

 

Date #1

The guy is bombshell, a short built latino guy thats very intelligent. I think to myself hey this guy seems to be the whole package so I should ask him out. We go out on a date and he won't shut the fuck up about his ex boyfriend so I figure I might as well have some fun with him even if its not going to go any where. As we are fucking he says, "WOW!!! ***** didn't used to do it like that!" to which I ended the play session and sent him on his way

 

Date#2

This one was a personal trainer with a perfect body with an amazing educational background. Again seems like the whole package so I prepose a lunch date. We meet and get along pretty well but I can sense something is off and about 20 minutes in after have ordered he tells me that he "really likes me and feels a connection" to which I think oh lord the follow up to this is going to be bad and he doesn't disappoint. He tells me that he was arrested for selling crystal meth but he is sober now (good for him?) which MAYBE I could deal with because I understand that chemical dependency is a biological issue not some moral failing and people make bad decisions in the height of there addiction? Then more comes out...apparently he has to turn himself in at the end of the month for sentencing and will be in jail for a couple years but he would really like to get to know me and "we can be pen pals" AND "maybe when I get out we can be boyfriends?". I sip my water, nod and get the check.

 

Date #3

So bad I don't even want to write it down

 

Moral of the story is...I think I am getting a cat and giving up on dating.

 

 

Chris, I thought you had a partner. But if you don't, maybe you ought try going for the brainy intellectual types who never step inside a gym. And my current availability is .....

 

Gman

[+ Truereview]

I'm happy to hear the good stories about escorts who have successfully dated and partnered up. I believe dating is becoming increasingly more complex. thank you @JamahlBrandon , [uSER=12155]@Dominiking[/uSER] , and @ChrisWydeman for given us a glimpse into some of your dating experiences and some of the choices you've had to make. Nice balance to the thread. Thanks for keeping it real, guys. Your stories are sobering but helpful perspectives.

[jawjateck]

I moved to Chicago last September and have been on a few dates most of which were just awful. I wouldn't say dating as an escort is hard, I would say that dating in general is.

 

Date #1

The guy is bombshell, a short built latino guy thats very intelligent. I think to myself hey this guy seems to be the whole package so I should ask him out. We go out on a date and he won't shut the fuck up about his ex boyfriend so I figure I might as well have some fun with him even if its not going to go any where. As we are fucking he says, "WOW!!! ***** didn't used to do it like that!" to which I ended the play session and sent him on his way

 

Date#2

This one was a personal trainer with a perfect body with an amazing educational background. Again seems like the whole package so I prepose a lunch date. We meet and get along pretty well but I can sense something is off and about 20 minutes in after have ordered he tells me that he "really likes me and feels a connection" to which I think oh lord the follow up to this is going to be bad and he doesn't disappoint. He tells me that he was arrested for selling crystal meth but he is sober now (good for him?) which MAYBE I could deal with because I understand that chemical dependency is a biological issue not some moral failing and people make bad decisions in the height of there addiction? Then more comes out...apparently he has to turn himself in at the end of the month for sentencing and will be in jail for a couple years but he would really like to get to know me and "we can be pen pals" AND "maybe when I get out we can be boyfriends?". I sip my water, nod and get the check.

 

Date #3

So bad I don't even want to write it down

 

Moral of the story is...I think I am getting a cat and giving up on dating.

 

So glad I aint into dating or marrying.

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Hey there...

 

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Sorry for the interruption in the ongoing discussion but....

 

JamahlBrandon...dude your avatar pic is HOT!!! WOOF you have a great website and rentmen ad with great pics but that avatar is right up there for me with avatars for Juan Vancouver and Kurtis Wolfe . Nothing against the other men on her as there are many great looking guys with great avatars but Juan and Kurtis have picked great avatar pics and yours is right up there with theirs in my book.

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Can you just imagine being an escort and in a relationship with a person who's not in this business and lets say you two are having a date night or hanging out or whatever and you get a phone call/text from a client or regular who wants to meet now. Like what the hell do you do or say? Do you just be honest and tell him you have to leave now bc you have to go do business, i mean any boyfriend overtime no whatever how strong they are it would bother them, i don't know its just my 2 cents from a young boy here

 

Yes you are honest but you should also have some ground rules in the relationship. It doesn't matter if you are dating a doctor, a cop or an escort you need to have time for each other that you both aren't answering the phone or texting and you aren't worrying about work but working on being in love. I think if you are considering going on a job while your on a date with your boyfriend then you probably have bigger issues than what your job is. If you have set it up that hey tonight i may have to work but lets go grab dinner that's a completely different thing but if you are on a date with somebody they should be what is holding your attention. There are very few jobs that somebody else can't handle an issue that comes up at work. Maybe the President of the United States...LOL

 

But my 2 cents being on the other end of this is always be honest. If you are honest and up front from the beginning you will weed out the crappy guys and usually there is nothing you cant face together if you are honest.

[Epigonos]

Damn jawjateck ain't life sweet without all this fucking drama!

[+ Truereview]

Ok boys, let's not crush the concept of dating altogether!. Anybody had a good date lately? I had a great one last night. For starters, he showed up on time, he paid for his part of dinner, and he only picked his nose once. I did wonder about the prisoner uniform, but I figured it was just a fashion statement.

[ChrisWydeman]

I'm happy to hear the good stories about escorts who have successfully dated and partnered up. I believe dating is becoming increasingly more complex. thank you @JamahlBrandon , [uSER=12155]@Dominiking[/uSER] , and @ChrisWydeman for given us a glimpse into some of your dating experiences and some of the choices you've had to make. Nice balance to the thread. Thanks for keeping it real, guys. Your stories are sobering but helpful perspectives.

The quality I value above all else in a partner is emotional intelligence and I can't emphasize enough how important it is

[Mikegaite]

I don't have to imagine that. I have lived that many, many times.

 

Of course you are honest with your partner. Why would you hide anything from him? That is the whole point about being in a relationship.

 

Also, I very seldom take the "Are you available this very minute" kind of calls. Normally I have my schedule planned in advance, but every now and then I will have to decide to leave a private function to go to work. It's not all that easy. You have to learn to prioritize, and sometimes work will take the priority, sometimes on special occasions phone goes off and you focus on your relationship. It's all about finding balance and communicating openly with your partner. It might be awkward at first, but very soon it becomes a non issue.

 

I am not saying it's not bothersome, but most professionals have to deal with their work invading their private life. An ex of mine once lived with a doctor who was called to work all the time at the weirdest of moments. He could not say no, life an death, you know. My ex always used to say that being with me was way less stressful and easier to deal with.

 

All professions have their challenges, all relationships have their friction areas. One should not avoid situations just because one knows one will encounter challenges. One grabs the bull by the horns, faces the challenges, communicates, learns, negotiates and grows.

 

I am not saying you should enter a relationship or that you should change your mind about it, I am just sharing with you that doing this in a very healthy way is actually not only possible, but very achievable.

 

You CAN have your cake and snuggle with it at night.

 

^+100,000.

 

Juan pretty much tackles every escorting topic insightfully, articulately, and comprehensively. He's irritatingly intelligent. I'm a swooning fanboy.

[mike carey]

Now the irritatingly intelligent are complimenting each other!

[Juan Vancouver]

Right back at you, Mike Gaite...

 

Mike Carey is right. (And he is also irritatingly intelligent!)

 

Group grope!!!!

[jvanchicago]

I think everybody has brought up some interesting and very valid points, on both sides.

 

I'm not an escort, so I clearly can't answer the main question posed on how dating as an escort would work. But as an "average civilian" I would have no problem dating an escort. If an escort is in this profession for the right reasons (they love making connections, they love making others feel great, they actually enjoy what they are doing)-that's all I would want for a partner in their chosen profession, no matter what that job might be. Sure, there might be jealous moments that arise, but that happens in every relationship, and that's where communication and trust (the two bedrocks of a successful relationship) come into play.

 

And in terms of hiring, I'd be all for an escort in a relationship, or one who is married. If they are able to have love, passion, and that type of connection in the "real world," just imagine what they can bring to the session. Sign me up!

[LADoug1]

ANY intelligent person understands that he/she can't /shouldn't date everyone. That would really suck. From the limited dating pool, however, one is able to find wonderful people with whom you can grow and share.

 

Yes, since I am an escort I won't be able to date the enormous pool of stuck ups, hillbillies, close minded, judgmental people who can barely see beyond their own nose and would be unable to see the beautiful, loving work that this is. Luckily, I am only attracted to men whose intelligence allows them to see beyond what their society taught them.

 

SO very well said.

[LADoug1]

I wouldn't say dating as an escort is hard, I would say that dating in general is.

 

So true. Gay guys in general don't understand the concept of dating. For many even the word "dating" is off-putting. They don't know what it means and it scares them. On the other hand "dating" can mean different things to different people. One must be clear on what "dating" means to them.

[LADoug1]

Date #3

So bad I don't even want to write it down

 

LMAO.

[+ Lance_Navarro]

I think everybody has brought up some interesting and very valid points, on both sides.

 

I'm not an escort, so I clearly can't answer the main question posed on how dating as an escort would work. But as an "average civilian" I would have no problem dating an escort. If an escort is in this profession for the right reasons (they love making connections, they love making others feel great, they actually enjoy what they are doing)-that's all I would want for a partner in their chosen profession, no matter what that job might be. Sure, there might be jealous moments that arise, but that happens in every relationship, and that's where communication and trust (the two bedrocks of a successful relationship) come into play.

 

And in terms of hiring, I'd be all for an escort in a relationship, or one who is married. If they are able to have love, passion, and that type of connection in the "real world," just imagine what they can bring to the session. Sign me up!

 

Thanks for saying that! It's exactly how I feel. The traits that make me a great escort/sex-coach are the ones that also make me a great bf and partner. My man knows how much my work means to me and how much I am helping others, and therefore is very supportive.

[+ Lance_Navarro]

Can you just imagine being an escort and in a relationship with a person who's not in this business and lets say you two are having a date night or hanging out or whatever and you get a phone call/text from a client or regular who wants to meet now. Like what the hell do you do or say? Do you just be honest and tell him you have to leave now bc you have to go do business, i mean any boyfriend overtime no whatever how strong they are it would bother them, i don't know its just my 2 cents from a young boy here

 

It's a valid question, but it's a good time to remember that money isn't everything. If my partner and I have plans, nothing is more important than that. It's a matter of respect that my clients give me enough notice and understand that I often can't take last minute appts. However, if it's just a casual afternoon, without any plans, he's understanding if I take an appointment.

[+ Funguy]

I don't have to imagine that. I have lived that many, many times.

 

Of course you are honest with your partner. Why would you hide anything from him? That is the whole point about being in a relationship.

 

Also, I very seldom take the "Are you available this very minute" kind of calls. Normally I have my schedule planned in advance, but every now and then I will have to decide to leave a private function to go to work. It's not all that easy. You have to learn to prioritize, and sometimes work will take the priority, sometimes on special occasions phone goes off and you focus on your relationship. It's all about finding balance and communicating openly with your partner. It might be awkward at first, but very soon it becomes a non issue.

 

I am not saying it's not bothersome, but most professionals have to deal with their work invading their private life. An ex of mine once lived with a doctor who was called to work all the time at the weirdest of moments. He could not say no, life an death, you know. My ex always used to say that being with me was way less stressful and easier to deal with.

 

All professions have their challenges, all relationships have their friction areas. One should not avoid situations just because one knows one will encounter challenges. One grabs the bull by the horns, faces the challenges, communicates, learns, negotiates and grows.

 

I am not saying you should enter a relationship or that you should change your mind about it, I am just sharing with you that doing this in a very healthy way is actually not only possible, but very achievable.

 

You CAN have your cake and snuggle with it at night.

 

Thor is a very lucky guy!

(not only because Juan is always hard and warm)

[JamahlBrandon]

You CAN have your cake and snuggle with it at night.

 

"They say you can't have cake, and eat it too

But ain't that what you s'posed to do?

Ain't you s'posed to eat it too?

If cakes on the menu. Cake cakes on the menu..."

 

-Trey songz

[JamahlBrandon]

Can you just imagine being an escort and in a relationship with a person who's not in this business and lets say you two are having a date night or hanging out or whatever and you get a phone call/text from a client or regular who wants to meet now. Like what the hell do you do or say? Do you just be honest and tell him you have to leave now bc you have to go do business, i mean any boyfriend overtime no whatever how strong they are it would bother them, i don't know its just my 2 cents from a young boy here

 

That's when it comes down to communication and also figuring out what's important to you. That's going to involve testing the motives of the other person as well. You don't want to be turning down $300 for a guy who's only play dating for sex, only to turn you loose after he gets what he wants.

 

When push comes to shove, $200 isn't always greater in value than a possible long term connection with someone. That's also why I have 2 separate phones, and separate numbers. Even though I usually bring both phones, I can completely detach myself away from the temptation of answering calls if I've committed my time to family, friends or a date.

 

However, blood is thicker than water...Most of the guys I've "dated" have been just that. Dating. Meaning, they can be here tonight, and completely out the picture next month. And truth be told, people you do business with can be your most loyal and trusted friends. There's been times I've told guys (once they already knew), that hey...I'm broke this week. If a client calls, I have to take it. And I don't know why...but its usually always when I plan to go out with someone, that's the one time a client decides to contact me, and it's usually for an appointment I can't turn down. Like a 5 star hotel where you know you're going to get paid, or a request for an overnight.

 

I moved to Chicago last September and have been on a few dates most of which were just awful. I wouldn't say dating as an escort is hard, I would say that dating in general is.

 

Moral of the story is...I think I am getting a cat and giving up on dating.

 

LOL...how about I just drive to Chicago and donate to you my orphaned kitten/cat that's driving me up the WALL??

 

But you know, the same things that are going on in the dating world...is going on in our business as well.

 

Sorry for the interruption in the ongoing discussion but....

JamahlBrandon...dude your avatar pic is HOT!!! WOOF you have a great website and rentmen ad with great pics but that avatar is right up there for me with avatars for Juan Vancouver and Kurtis Wolfe . Nothing against the other men on her as there are many great looking guys with great avatars but Juan and Kurtis have picked great avatar pics and yours is right up there with theirs in my book.

 

Thankyou, thankyou very much. That avatar happens to be a souvenir from my first trip to L.A. couple years ago. The good news: I still have those very pair of underwear ;-)

 

So true. Gay guys in general don't understand the concept of dating. For many even the word "dating" is off-putting. They don't know what it means and it scares them. On the other hand "dating" can mean different things to different people. One must be clear on what "dating" means to them.

 

Guys don't even call it dating. That's WAY too serious. God forbid. Dating, that's like marriage. The word seems to be, "talking." Like, when I seen guys at the club who were with guys I knew, they'd be like: "oh, we're talking".

 

I'll never give up on dating, but right now life has been so crazy that I've not been focusing on it. I'm meditating on my relocation and finances, and trying to finish my degree. On top of that, the holidays from Thanksgiving to Superbowl/Valentines day just tends to be a futile time to really date new people anyway. It's just one thing after the next. Even football season adds to the stress of dating lol. A couple years ago, I watched a couple break up after the Denver Broncos losing the Superbowl, because the guy cheated on him in his house. When I asked the guy what kind of relationship they established, they were only "seeing each other", not in an actual relationship. I told the guy, unless you firmly established a relationship, no one really knows you're actually together. I certainly didn't know they were together. Not to mention, guys can be opportunist and will go in for a drunk kiss and not think twice about the consequences.

 

Americans need to get their priorities in check. We put too much emphasis on things that aren't important, instead of each other.

[Juan Vancouver]

Thor is a very lucky guy!

 

Thank you, that;s very sweet, but if you met him you'd soon realize I am the one who won the lotto. He is the nicest, kindest man I know.

[Andy2]

Now the irritatingly intelligent are complimenting each other!

 

LOL.

 

Mike and Juan are, obviously, highly intelligent. What makes their intelligence not "irritating" is that each man tends to be kind to other people, even in sharp disagreement. They both strike me as emotionally generous as well.

 

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[mike carey]

Mike and Juan are, obviously, highly intelligent. What makes their intelligence not "irritating" is that each man tends to be kind to other people, even in sharp disagreement. They both strike me as emotionally generous as well.

All of that, Andy! I wuv them both!