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Lol. We should stop talking about escorts and clients like two homogenous groups. No more generalizations, basta! Ergo, We should also stop pretending that our likes and dislikes, our preferences, our interests, are representative of and applicable to everyone else. If you do not like an escort profile, move on to the next. If you do not like a client, take your service to someone else.

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Lol. We should stop talking about escorts and clients like two homogenous groups. No more generalizations, basta! Ergo, We should also stop pretending that our likes and dislikes, our preferences, our interests, are representative of and applicable to everyone else. If you do by like an escort profile, move on to the next. If you do not like a client, take your service to someone else.

+1000. The way I look at it: This hobby of mine is for joy and fun. I go for escorts who make their business model one of ease and service, not control.

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I've noticed that, too....

 

I presume it has to do with the ol' chemistry thing.....escorts are human, too

 

Well yes, but they are also supposed to be professionals. If I wanted to play around and not know what I was getting into beforehand, then I probably wouldn't be hiring in the first place. When it comes to escorts, the more information you have the better it is for having a successful meeting.

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Don't go on spreading such blatant falsehoods. Escorts are like robots. Press a button, get the same genuine response, every time! :D

 

 

You are obviously correct in your sarcasm, Juan. But taking your statement literally would in some ways be correct also. While escorts are human, and sometimes unplanned things happen, clients go to escorts and pay a lot of money to them because of their (supposed?) expertise. If in meeting with an escort things are as up in the air as they might be in a random hook-up with a guy you've met online, then really why would you choose to meet with an escort? In this case, there would be the same chance for success with a hook-up and you'd be out a lot less money.

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If I see "ask me" for position, I take it to mean the gent has limits on what he will do and with whom. For example I knew one gent back in my active days who would not be topped by someone smaller in stature than him. If I'm interested in the rest of what the gent had to say, I'd simple pop a message to him and do as he said - ask him.

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If I see "ask me" for position, I take it to mean the gent has limits on what he will do and with whom. For example I knew one gent back in my active days who would not be topped by someone smaller in stature than him. If I'm interested in the rest of what the gent had to say, I'd simple pop a message to him and do as he said - ask him.

As somebody said before, if somebody has "Ask me" in his profile, it only means that you have to ask.

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If in meeting with an escort things are as up in the air as they might be in a random hook-up with a guy you've met online, then really why would you choose to meet with an escort?

 

Because there is zero chance that a random hook-up would be anywhere near as hot as Juan or anyone else I would consider hiring.

 

I would never make the date without all the answers, but I'm not going to let the couple texts required to fill in the "ask me" blanks stand in the way of me and some fun. ;)

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So let's see if I have this correct. First, I agree. The escort can have anything he wants in his ad. Just a little description and lots of, 'ask me'. .

So when you contact them, and start asking some questions, they complain that clients ask too many questions. Interesting.

 

Maybe there are escorts who would do that, but it's definitely not everyone and not anyone well known for being a professional. AND even if they do you can always move on to another professional and so on indefinitely until you've weeded through all your red flags and find what you want.

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While escorts are human, and sometimes unplanned things happen, clients go to escorts and pay a lot of money to them because of their (supposed?) expertise. If in meeting with an escort things are as up in the air as they might be in a random hook-up with a guy you've met online, then really why would you choose to meet with an escort? In this case, there would be the same chance for success with a hook-up and you'd be out a lot less money.

 

I can only speak for myself, but I know my limits. I do consider myself an expert and have put many hours of dedicated practice in the fields of social interaction, intimacy, sex and even different therapeutic approaches. That, however, doesn't mean that my expertise has made me an infallible automaton that will always be able to react the same way. If anything, the opposite is true. An automaton will ignore the current situation and do his trick again and again, but for me a mechanic trick is not fulfilling or special. I like to work with the present moment, what my partner is bringing to the table, the specific situation, etc.

 

Sometimes, when being in the present, certain things will simply not work out. If, for example, my partner has bad breath or dirty body and refuses to make any adjustments to make the session possible, I will adapt the session to reflect that and will only do what is doable under such circumstances. An automaton would keep going as if it were business as usual, but that is just not healthy for me and I am sure of it, neither it is for my client. This is not because I lack expertise or because I "can't". It is because I won't. My respect for myself is the base on which the respect of my partner is built.

 

If you hire me and you want to have seven guaranteed ejaculations on your face and want to get fisted no matter what (as in, "if you want to not have your chances up in the air, as it would be with a random hook up") then I am definitely not your escort. And I am careful to say this when I book a session. I am a ready to go guy with expertise and a desire to play and please, but I will only do whatever is possible within the constraints of hygiene, health and legality.

 

In short. If you want to have your acts guaranteed, hire someone else.

 

If you want a genuine, honest, intimate human interaction where you will be seen and treated with respect and care, an interaction where we will explore as many of the possibilities that are available at that specific time, and an interaction where will will have to adapt organically to what is, then definitely call me. I think we would have a riot.

 

If that is similar to the way your random hook-ups go, then by Jove, stop hiring! You are having really great hook ups.

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If you hire me and you want to have seven guaranteed ejaculations on your face and want to get fisted no matter what (as in, "if you want to not have your chances up in the air, as it would be with a random hook up") then I am definitely not your escort.

 

Only as a point of information- in like manner to you but on the client side of the equation-the escort who wants to ejaculate on my face 7 times and fist me is not an escort I would ever go near. I am definitely not their kind of client.

 

As for the rest-I admitted in my post that human factors can intervene. Neither the client not the escort are robots. Still if hiring escorts were a total crapshoot, I maintain that hook-ups would be better.

 

I'm not saying escorts should have to put up with obnoxious clients. I'm talking about totally reasonable clients meeting with reasonable escorts whose interests align well.

 

I'm sure your philosophy of escorting has served you well, Juan. The praises you receive here on the Forum and your numerous good reviews attest to that.

 

But there are other perfectly great escorts-whose philosophies may help them be a little more flexible, more go with the flow. And both your philosophy and theirs are perfectly acceptable ways to operate.

 

Gman

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Whether sex is ever good or bad has nothing to do with whether you've engaged a gent or picked up someone at the local. I don't think its necessary to lay out and set each step of the encounter prior -- I can totally understand gents who may get such requests and decline. Sure, you need to sort out what one is looking for with the gent, and provided there's a meeting of the minds in that regard, surely there is room for the encounter to have an organic component?

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I think you hit the nail on the head, Sam. Since the Rentboy thing, a smart escort wouldn't want to be advertising certain "illegal" activities in a public way. As far as Daddy's response, I know Daddy cares a great deal about his "kids".. that's why he's Daddy!

Wasn't the whole RB thing excuse due to them not paying their taxes and something about operating across state lines?

 

I just can't see how it makes much difference when the guys are advertising under the name Rentmen or Men4rentnow. Just seems silly. Maybe they should rename the sites too like Askmemen or Menfornow.

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While escorts are human, and sometimes unplanned things happen, clients go to escorts and pay a lot of money to them because of their (supposed?) expertise.

 

But there are other perfectly great escorts-whose philosophies may help them be a little more flexible, more go with the flow. And both your philosophy and theirs are perfectly acceptable ways to operate.

 

I think we are talking bout different types of hires here. Some guys are hiring for specific things (lets say a BDSM dom as a bold example) obviously you need to find an escort who is an expert in that. Some guys are hiring for just a good top or bottom so you don't really need to be as specific but just know what position they prefer. Some guys are hiring for a generally fun, romantic, and sexually satisfying experience and you need to find an escort who can be an expert in that. People who are looking for the first need more detailed information, people looking for the second need general information, people looking for the third or "Juan category" need to be able to go with the flow.

 

Of course this all avoids the topic of "good" clients and "good" escorts but that's a deep dark rabbit hole.

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I think we are talking bout different types of hires here. Some guys are hiring for specific things (lets say a BDSM dom as a bold example) obviously you need to find an escort who is an expert in that. Some guys are hiring for just a good top or bottom so you don't really need to be as specific but just know what position they prefer. Some guys are hiring for a generally fun, romantic, and sexually satisfying experience and you need to find an escort who can be an expert in that. People who are looking for the first need more detailed information, people looking for the second need general information, people looking for the third or "Juan category" need to be able to go with the flow.

 

Of course this all avoids the topic of "good" clients and "good" escorts but that's a deep dark rabbit hole.

 

 

I am almost totally vanilla. I'm not really into kink. Most escorts have told me I'm easy to be with. I always hope they haven't said that only to keep me coming back. So I think I am compatible with most versatile or bottom escorts who provide boyfriend experiences. But even considering how vanilla I am-Juan seems to put a lot of restrictions at the front end. He's not as restrictive as say Ricardo Milos who reportedly used to send out a questionnaire to prospective clients.

 

And as popular as Juan is-it seems to work for him. And maybe he is just being a lot more explicit where perhaps the majority of escorts I've hired in the past follow the same kind of guidelines but don't explicitly state them.

 

And I don't expect anyone to be an automaton. But again-looking at the average vanilla client who doesn't have bad breath, doesn't have something horribly disfiguring, isn't on drugs, is not crazy, etc, etc, etc -and looking at the majority of escorts who fit the same kind of profile-no bad breath, no drugs, not crazy, etc, etc, etc-I would expect in the majority of cases that a certain level of service/actions could pretty much be guaranteed by the majority of experienced and professional escorts. If not, then you really would be better taking your chances with a random hook-up

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Sorry Daddy, I disagree with Daddy on a couple of items. I am bitchy. Yes I hire for companionship but at the end of the night if I don't have a big one I am disappointed. So hiring for me is about cock and ass. I wont ask. I keep looking. I vote with my pocket book. I am just one guy that only hires once a month. But I am sure there are others out there that feel the same. I am really tired of bitchy/arrogant escorts who don't want to meet the client half way. It is his money. I not saying to disrespect an escort, but if he is not will to provide the services I want, their is little purpose in hiring him.

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Forgive me Gman. I can't keep track of everyone's background, number and frequency of hiring etc, but I think you may be underestimating how difficult it is to find/provide a good BFE. Maybe you have just had better luck than I have had. My experience has been that it's easy to get laid, but to find a guy who can really be as intimate as a good BFE requires is the exception not the rule.

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People who are looking for the first need more detailed information, people looking for the second need general information, people looking for the third or "Juan category" need to be able to go with the flow.

 

I am really puzzled by your comment. It would appear that my words have been taken to mean something entirely different that what they really mean.

 

Russ, let me explain as clearly as I can. I don't assume you would have read my previous posts in the last ten years or read my reviews, and maybe it is good that this is happening, considering there may be many out there like you who know nothing about me and my services and might be misunderstanding what I wrote the same way as you are.

 

I love getting specific. The more information I get, the better. I will only accept a client if I know we are compatible and like similar things or can get into similar scenarios. Also, I understand that for many, hiring an escort is a big splurge and should be super fun and fulfilling. I will only take a client if I know that his fantasies and expectations are within my field of expertise, which is VERY broad, ranging from very specific and esoteric fetishes, to the most tender boyfriend experience.

 

That being said, because of the specific laws in my country and the way I look at my work, I do not charge for, sell or negotiate sex acts or bodily fluids. That is not a disclaimer to take the money and go away after a perfunctory massage. Anyone reading my reviews will know that I LOVE having fun, I love intimacy and I am really good at it, really good at reading and understanding my client's needs sometimes in a clearer way than they do. Full-on fun is had every single time whenever my client is open and ready for that, but what I charge for, is my expert, focused time with my client, not a series of mechanical acts in a specific order.

 

In the past I have urged men (clients or not) to state their needs clearly and respectfully, not because their partner has to obey (whether they are an escort or not) but because that is the way an adult person behaves in intimacy. I state my needs and desires, I listen to my partner's and we, together, as adults, consensually and co-sensually navigate the place where our needs and desires bifurcate.

 

That is an entirely different paradigm to the "you escort, I boss, I command, you obey" so it is very important for me to let my prospective clients know that, because if they believe that's what will happen, they will be disappointed. However, I know there's a huge amount of men out there who are yearning to spend time with a man who will be there with them honestly, expertly, compassionately, humanely, sharing with them a true moment of genuine intimacy, that will also be really fucking fun.

 

This absolutely doesn't mean that I am vague to avoid putting out.

 

But even considering how vanilla I am-Juan seems to put a lot of restrictions at the front end. He's not as restrictive as say Ricardo Milos who reportedly used to send out a questionnaire to prospective clients.

 

And as popular as Juan is-it seems to work for him. And maybe he is just being a lot more explicit where perhaps the majority of escorts I've hired in the past follow the same kind of guidelines but don't explicitly state them.

 

I would expect in the majority of cases that a certain level of service/actions could pretty much be guaranteed by the majority of experienced and professional escorts. If not, then you really would be better taking your chances with a random hook-up

 

Restrictions? A lot of them?

 

If by restrictions you mean that I expect my clients to show up being able to provide consent, being respectful, clean, ready and honour our mutual agreements, then yes. Guilty as charged. Those are non-negotiable.

 

If you can come up with any other restriction that I have ever voiced here or privately with you that can back up your comment, please share them with us. I would be very grateful.

 

One "restriction" that might be a gray area because it's not a lack of hygiene per se but that will ruin my day is if someone shows up reeking of garlic.

 

If that puts me in the Milos category, I am ready to accept it. And yes, full disclosure, I will not accept seeing a client or continue a session if my 5 conditions are not in place.

 

I love my work and I am passionate about it, and I know that in order to be able to be respectful and loving towards others, I have first to be loving and respectful towards myself. These apparently painstaking "restrictions" are the most basic conditions that I expect to be present in all my interactions, professional or not.

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I am really puzzled by your comment. It would appear that my words have been taken to mean something entirely different that what they really mean.

 

Russ, let me explain as clearly as I can. I don't assume you would have read my previous posts in the last ten years or read my reviews, and maybe it is good that this is happening, considering there may be many out there like you who know nothing about me and my services and might be misunderstanding what I wrote the same way as you are.

 

I love getting specific. The more information I get, the better. I will only accept a client if I know we are compatible and like similar things or can get into similar scenarios. Also, I understand that for many, hiring an escort is a big splurge and should be super fun and fulfilling. I will only take a client if I know that his fantasies and expectations are within my field of expertise, which is VERY broad, ranging from very specific and esoteric fetishes, to the most tender boyfriend experience.

 

That being said, because of the specific laws in my country and the way I look at my work, I do not charge for, sell or negotiate sex acts or bodily fluids. That is not a disclaimer to take the money and go away after a perfunctory massage. Anyone reading my reviews will know that I LOVE having fun, I love intimacy and I am really good at it, really good at reading and understanding my client's needs sometimes in a clearer way than they do. Full-on fun is had every single time whenever my client is open and ready for that, but what I charge for, is my expert, focused time with my client, not a series of mechanical acts in a specific order.

 

In the past I have urged men (clients or not) to state their needs clearly and respectfully, not because their partner has to obey (whether they are an escort or not) but because that is the way an adult person behaves in intimacy. I state my needs and desires, I listen to my partner's and we, together, as adults, consensually and co-sensually navigate the place where our needs and desires bifurcate.

 

That is an entirely different paradigm to the "you escort, I boss, I command, you obey" so it is very important for me to let my prospective clients know that, because if they believe that's what will happen, they will be disappointed. However, I know there's a huge amount of men out there who are yearning to spend time with a man who will be there with them honestly, expertly, compassionately, humanely, sharing with them a true moment of genuine intimacy, that will also be really fucking fun.

 

This absolutely doesn't mean that I am vague to avoid putting out.

 

 

 

Restrictions? A lot of them?

 

If by restrictions you mean that I expect my clients to show up being able to provide consent, being respectful, clean, ready and honour our mutual agreements, then yes. Guilty as charged. Those are non-negotiable.

 

If you can come up with any other restriction that I have ever voiced here or privately with you that can back up your comment, please share them with us. I would be very grateful.

 

One "restriction" that might be a gray area because it's not a lack of hygiene per se but that will ruin my day is if someone shows up reeking of garlic.

 

If that puts me in the Milos category, I am ready to accept it. And yes, full disclosure, I will not accept seeing a client or continue a session if my 5 conditions are not in place.

 

I love my work and I am passionate about it, and I know that in order to be able to be respectful and loving towards others, I have first to be loving and respectful towards myself. These apparently painstaking "restrictions" are the most basic conditions that I expect to be present in all my interactions, professional or not.

 

Oh, good God. If I don't get to spend some time with you soon, Juan, I am going to explode (and not in the good way)!

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I could be wrong, but I took Russ's use of the "Juan category" as a compliment. Meaning an intimate BFE. At least that's what I think of when I think of Juan Bruno. :p

 

Well I did actually mean it as a compliment but oh well...

 

I am really puzzled by your comment. It would appear that my words have been taken to mean something entirely different that what they really mean.

 

Russ, let me explain as clearly as I can. I don't assume you would have read my previous posts in the last ten years or read my reviews, and maybe it is good that this is happening, considering there may be many out there like you who know nothing about me and my services and might be misunderstanding what I wrote the same way as you are.

 

I love getting specific. The more information I get, the better. I will only accept a client if I know we are compatible and like similar things or can get into similar scenarios. Also, I understand that for many, hiring an escort is a big splurge and should be super fun and fulfilling. I will only take a client if I know that his fantasies and expectations are within my field of expertise, which is VERY broad, ranging from very specific and esoteric fetishes, to the most tender boyfriend experience.

 

That being said, because of the specific laws in my country and the way I look at my work, I do not charge for, sell or negotiate sex acts or bodily fluids. That is not a disclaimer to take the money and go away after a perfunctory massage. Anyone reading my reviews will know that I LOVE having fun, I love intimacy and I am really good at it, really good at reading and understanding my client's needs sometimes in a clearer way than they do. Full-on fun is had every single time whenever my client is open and ready for that, but what I charge for, is my expert, focused time with my client, not a series of mechanical acts in a specific order.

 

In the past I have urged men (clients or not) to state their needs clearly and respectfully, not because their partner has to obey (whether they are an escort or not) but because that is the way an adult person behaves in intimacy. I state my needs and desires, I listen to my partner's and we, together, as adults, consensually and co-sensually navigate the place where our needs and desires bifurcate.

 

That is an entirely different paradigm to the "you escort, I boss, I command, you obey" so it is very important for me to let my prospective clients know that, because if they believe that's what will happen, they will be disappointed. However, I know there's a huge amount of men out there who are yearning to spend time with a man who will be there with them honestly, expertly, compassionately, humanely, sharing with them a true moment of genuine intimacy, that will also be really fucking fun.

 

This absolutely doesn't mean that I am vague to avoid putting out.

 

This is not criticism (I have no interest in that), but clarification -

 

So are you saying that if a client says they want "A" and you have done "A" in the past or are an expert in "A" you will guarantee "A" for their session? Or are you just saying you will take the client because "A" is at least a possibility whether or not it will actually happen? Because the first seems to me to go against what you say about "performing" no matter what and the second seems to mean the client needs to be flexible or "go with the flow"...

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I am almost totally vanilla. I'm not really into kink. Most escorts have told me I'm easy to be with. I always hope they haven't said that only to keep me coming back. So I think I am compatible with most versatile or bottom escorts who provide boyfriend experiences. But even considering how vanilla I am-Juan seems to put a lot of restrictions at the front end. He's not as restrictive as say Ricardo Milos who reportedly used to send out a questionnaire to prospective clients.

 

And as popular as Juan is-it seems to work for him. And maybe he is just being a lot more explicit where perhaps the majority of escorts I've hired in the past follow the same kind of guidelines but don't explicitly state them.

 

I'm not really sure anymore until Juan responds to my previous post.

 

And I don't expect anyone to be an automaton. But again-looking at the average vanilla client who doesn't have bad breath, doesn't have something horribly disfiguring, isn't on drugs, is not crazy, etc, etc, etc -and looking at the majority of escorts who fit the same kind of profile-no bad breath, no drugs, not crazy, etc, etc, etc-I would expect in the majority of cases that a certain level of service/actions could pretty much be guaranteed by the majority of experienced and professional escorts. If not, then you really would be better taking your chances with a random hook-up

 

I agree.

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