Breaking Bounderies

[curiousnomore]

(Let me say up front that I don't know how to approach this subject. No offence, to anyone, is intended.)

 

I'm a white male from the Southeast. I grew up in the 1980's is a small town. My attraction to other guys was something I had to keep to myself.

Inter-racial dating was shunned. Being Gay/Bi was not accepted. At all. So I kept my attractions to myself.

 

Decades later, I started to explore my "Gay" side. I don't know how describe my sexual exploration, but it has been fun at worst, indescribable at best.

 

I'm still pretty new to ALL of this, and hetero-vanilla because of boring women, so trying something new is always an option with me.

 

Since this is a forum about mfm escorts, I'll say this. I'm attracted to attractive men. Last night, I hired an escort that does't fit my usual preferences. He was a third party, a total TOP, and not my ethnicity.

 

JD Daniels is an amazing man. I would hire him as a dinner companion, even if nothing else was on the agenda.

 

Without getting review-ish, the conversation with JD and Sam was PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TruHart1]

Nice, curiousnomore,

 

It sounds like you had a great time! I hope you decide to submit a review of Mr. Daniels, whether you highlight his social or sexual talents, especially considering your unique bisexual viewpoint. I am looking forward to the JD Daniels experience myself in a few weeks!!! :)

 

TruHart1

[wisconsinguy]

I am not sure where you want this to go? I come from the upper midwest. Values as they maybe, are the same as where you come from. There are many escorts that fit the profile of JD and Sam. I do not know who this Sam person is. They simply choose not to put themselves out there like others. As far as this forum, I agree with you, it is a man to man. I have offended at least on female participant. So be it. Vagina's now scare me. Perhaps it it the overaggressive female who pretends to be smarter then they really are?

[+ purplekow]

WG2 Perhaps you want to rethink your last sentence.

Grammatically that sentence is a mess. If it is "the female" and "pretends" the rest of the sentence should be in the singular. If is "they" and "are" then it should be 'females" and "pretend". I am not the grammar police usually, but that last sentence could be read as either an indictment of all women or only the one woman you offended, depending of whether the subject is pluiral or asingular .

Either way, if you are going to public shame someone for pretending to be smarter than she is, bad grammar weakens your position.

Vagina's is a whole different issue.

[+ quoththeraven]

I am not sure where you want this to go? I come from the upper midwest. Values as they maybe, are the same as where you come from. There are many escorts that fit the profile of JD and Sam. I do not know who this Sam person is. They simply choose not to put themselves out there like others. As far as this forum, I agree with you, it is a man to man. I have offended at least on female participant. So be it. Vagina's now scare me. Perhaps it it the overaggressive female who pretends to be smarter then they really are?

 

I'm the guilty party. I wasn't offended, I was confused, because what you described didn't sound at all like being afraid of vaginas or women but being uninterested in them. But I have since realized (a) I should have asked my questions publicly, because I wouldn't have responded in the way I did that caused the flareup; (b) it was wrong and ungracious of me to push back after you took the time to explain, even if I still didn't feel understand where you were coming from; and © in the meantime, things you've said in posts have clarified what I was still confused about, which is another reason offering my two cents again was a mistake. Lesson learned, and I apologize.

 

I've wanted to say this to you in a PM for awhile (assuming you haven't blocked me), but I was reluctant to because I didn't want to make things worse. I struggle to get things accomplished because of my medical conditions (fibro, chronic fatigue and pain, and neck problems), so it's hard to find a time when I feel up to it. I'm glad to have this opportunity and hope this helps. I really value you and your participation on this forum -- despite our differences on some issues, I think you have a lot of wisdom to offer, and there's been at least one time when something you wrote changed my perspective -- and was kind of floored that of everyone on this forum, you were the person I wound up pissing off.

 

If this doesn't help and you prefer me to ignore you and vice versa, so be it.

[tyro]

I hope everybody has kissed and made up now because I wuv QTR AND WG2. AND most other people here.

So there! Ha!

Back to the topic now...

I'm really glad the OP went beyond "what he thought he wanted/liked" to meet some new guys. With both escorts and "civilians," I wonder what attracts me to certain men and not others. Anyone who's read my comments to the gallery postings knows that I often choose people no one else likes, but I don't think I have a "type."

T

[curiousnomore]

I am not sure where you want this to go? I come from the upper midwest. Values as they maybe, are the same as where you come from. There are many escorts that fit the profile of JD and Sam. I do not know who this Sam person is. They simply choose not to put themselves out there like others. As far as this forum, I agree with you, it is a man to man. I have offended at least on female participant. So be it. Vagina's now scare me. Perhaps it it the overaggressive female who pretends to be smarter then they really are?[/quoteI

I am not easily offended, nor do I lash out unprovoked.

Go to Daddy's Reviews, work your way to Atlanta, GA, and read my review of Sam Cody. He is FUCKING AMAZING!!! JD Daniels needs no further comment..JD was the first non-white escort I've hired. His 100+ reviews are on the money. The point of this thread is to make other clients open up to escorts they might usually pass over.

 

I'm an occasionally vers/top, but I Hired JD, a TOTAL top. I had an amazing time.

That is my measured, rational response.

 

As an aside, you can KISS MY ASS!!! Check THIS website. I reviewed him. You can believe my review or not. You can think he's cute, or not. Do your due diligence, and respond accordingly. If you don't believe me, PM Mr. JD Daniels, he's a member here. He'll verify what I posted.

[wisconsinguy]

You have yet to experience the best. I am done with this forum.

[curiousnomore]

You have yet to experience the best. I am done with this forum.

Huh? I think my first answered this.

 

BTW. PM me if you have questions about Sam. Don't believe me? Ask JD,. He's met him

[JDXXX]

Huh? I think my first answered this.

 

BTW. PM me if you have questions about Sam. Don't believe me? Ask JD,. He's met him

 

I can vouch that Sam is not only sexy as hell, but an extremely nice guy with a lot of beautiful qualities. Meeting both of these men was a breath of fresh air, and do hope to have the privilege and opportunity to meet with one or both of them again in the near future. .

[JDXXX]

Nice, curiousnomore,

 

It sounds like you had a great time! I hope you decide to submit a review of Mr. Daniels, whether you highlight his social or sexual talents, especially considering your unique bisexual viewpoint. I am looking forward to the JD Daniels experience myself in a few weeks!!! :)

 

TruHart1

 

Thanks Tru. Spending time with both Curious and Sam was nothing but incredible, and imagine it'll be the same spending quality time with you too in a few weeks for which I am so looking forward to.

[JDXXX]

(Let me say up front that I don't know how to approach this subject. No offence, to anyone, is intended.)

 

I'm a white male from the Southeast. I grew up in the 1980's is a small town. My attraction to other guys was something I had to keep to myself.

Inter-racial dating was shunned. Being Gay/Bi was not accepted. At all. So I kept my attractions to myself.

 

Decades later, I started to explore my "Gay" side. I don't know how describe my sexual exploration, but it has been fun at worst, indescribable at best.

 

I'm still pretty new to ALL of this, and hetero-vanilla because of boring women, so trying something new is always an option with me.

 

Since this is a forum about mfm escorts, I'll say this. I'm attracted to attractive men. Last night, I hired an escort that does't fit my usual preferences. He was a third party, a total TOP, and not my ethnicity.

 

JD Daniels is an amazing man. I would hire him as a dinner companion, even if nothing else was on the agenda.

 

Without getting review-ish, the conversation with JD and Sam was PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

First off, everyone, I want to thank Curious for taking the time out of his day to write this sincere thread as I truly have to say my time with BOTH him and Sam was delightful. Both of these guys are not only handsome, but fun in many other aspects which I'm confident he'll share in his upcoming astonishing review to be released soon. I'm sure you'll read more in Curious review of what all transpired during the mind-blowing session that you can say was an award-winning experience for parties involved.

 

I have to say, after reading Curious post made me realize how grateful I am of him touching up on a subject that I think does need to be address from time-to-time within the gay community especially in regards to hiring a guy for the first time of a different ethnicity. I hear these sort of comments from clients who hire a black person for the first time express me being they're first man of color as due to they're shameful upbringing growing up of family or society in they're home town or household not being open-minded to being interactive or intimate possibly with a black man as such actions are NOT accepted. For some people still to be gay and inter-racially date is still taboo in some rural areas within the United States.

 

For Curious to express his views of this matter on the forum(I think) is brilliant as they're are people I know who still wont hire black escorts due to the very reasons Curious has opened up to us on this thread.

 

I wish at times race wasn't an issue for people to hire men of color, but let's face it does happen, and you heard from an active member that for the first time he tried it, and loved it for which I am very proud he broaden his horizons, and opened his mind to new and exciting things outside of his comfort zone and tried someone as well who was of a different race.

 

It's ashame, people, how a lot of Americans in todays gay society are still close minded when it come to hiring escorts outside of they're race, and I'm glad to see they're are a small percentage of people in this world who are willing to give men of color an opportunity to shine as Curious is a prime example of not being his first total TOP, but also his first hire impressive hire who was no other but a man of color who is a person, and is not labeled as just another black sex symbol with a huge dick. LOL.

 

As for me, I'm colorblind when it comes to interacting with people of different races. I love people of all races and all colors as I was brought up to love all people no matter who they are. Black, white, green, red or brown were all still the same when it comes to one thing: BLOOD. The color of our blood, people is still what - RED, and when I am enjoying someone whether it's intimately or for fun - they're race doesn't come into question.

 

Thank you, Curious for giving me an opportunity to prove I am as equal as any other escort you've hired who is not of color. You gave me a wonderful chance to brighten you're day, and by doing so, it sincerely was an amazing experience for you for which I am very proud to hear, and do look forward to seeing you again for more fun times to come.

[curiousnomore]

First off, everyone, I want to thank Curious for taking the time out of his day to write this sincere thread as I truly have to say my time with BOTH him and Sam was delightful. Both of these guys are not only handsome, but fun in many other aspects which I'm confident he'll share in his upcoming astonishing review to be released soon. I'm sure you'll read more in Curious review of what all transpired during the mind-blowing session that you can say was an award-winning experience for parties involved.

 

I have to say, after reading Curious post made me realize how grateful I am of him touching up on a subject that I think does need to be address from time-to-time within the gay community especially in regards to hiring a guy for the first time of a different ethnicity. I hear these sort of comments from clients who hire a black person for the first time express me being they're first man of color as due to they're shameful upbringing growing up of family or society in they're home town or household not being open-minded to being interactive or intimate possibly with a black man as such actions are NOT accepted. For some people still to be gay and inter-racially date is still taboo in some rural areas within the United States.

 

For Curious to express his views of this matter on the forum(I think) is brilliant as they're are people I know who still wont hire black escorts due to the very reasons Curious has opened up to us on this thread.

 

I wish at times race wasn't an issue for people to hire men of color, but let's face it does happen, and you heard from an active member that for the first time he tried it, and loved it for which I am very proud he broaden his horizons, and opened his mind to new and exciting things outside of his comfort zone and tried someone as well who was of a different race.

 

It's ashame, people, how a lot of Americans in todays gay society are still close minded when it come to hiring escorts outside of they're race, and I'm glad to see they're are a small percentage of people in this world who are willing to give men of color an opportunity to shine as Curious is a prime example of not being his first total TOP, but also his first hire impressive hire who was no other but a man of color who is a person, and is not labeled as just another black sex symbol with a huge dick. LOL.

 

As for me, I'm colorblind when it comes to interacting with people of different races. I love people of all races and all colors as I was brought up to love all people no matter who they are. Black, white, green, red or brown were all still the same when it comes to one thing: BLOOD. The color of our blood, people is still what - RED, and when I am enjoying someone whether it's intimately or for fun - they're race doesn't come into question.

 

Thank you, Curious for giving me an opportunity to prove I am as equal as any other escort you've hired who is not of color. You gave me a wonderful chance to brighten you're day, and by doing so, it sincerely was an amazing experience for you for which I am very proud to hear, and do look forward to seeing you again for more fun times to come.

Equal? What the Hell?

You're as good as it gets. You escort for the right reasons. You approach a meeting with the perfect mindset.

 

Beyond that, you are an amazing man. As skilled as you are in the bedroom, the conversation we had, the 3 of us, was priceless.

 

I hope this thread opens up one guy's mind. That's how change happens. One person at a time.

[JDXXX]

Equal? What the Hell?

You're as good as it gets. You escort for the right reasons. You approach a meeting with the perfect mindset.

 

Beyond that, you are an amazing man. As skilled as you are in the bedroom, the conversation we had, the 3 of us, was priceless.

 

I hope this thread opens up one guy's mind. That's how change happens. One person at a time.

 

What makes one good at what he does because he loves interacting and satisfying others needs. I enjoy giving pleasure and joy onto others. However way possible in my power and ability to brighten up a clients day a reality - is rewarding enough for me.

 

It's special people like you, Curious that can help make a difference, and proud you created this thread to help broaden people who are not use to hiring ethnic men a point of view that maybe it's time to try something new. Doesn't hurt to try as if what you tried didn't work, at least you can walk away with a good feeling to say "I tried". You gave a man of color a chance, and look what positive results came out of it. . Quite thrilled my presence and personality has brought you and Sam joy, as you both have brought joy and happiness onto me that night.

[+ WilliamM]

I'm the guilty party. I wasn't offended, I was confused, because what you described didn't sound at all like being afraid of vaginas or women but being uninterested in them. But I have since realized (a) I should have asked my questions publicly, because I wouldn't have responded in the way I did that caused the flareup; (b) it was wrong and ungracious of me to push back after you took the time to explain, even if I still didn't feel understand where you were coming from; and © in the meantime, things you've said in posts have clarified what I was still confused about, which is another reason offering my two cents again was a mistake. Lesson learned, and I apologize.

 

I've wanted to say this to you in a PM for awhile (assuming you haven't blocked me), but I was reluctant to because I didn't want to make things worse. I struggle to get things accomplished because of my medical conditions (fibro, chronic fatigue and pain, and neck problems), so it's hard to find a time when I feel up to it. I'm glad to have this opportunity and hope this helps. I really value you and your participation on this forum -- despite our differences on some issues, I think you have a lot of wisdom to offer, and there's been at least one time when something you wrote changed my perspective -- and was kind of floored that of everyone on this forum, you were the person I wound up pissing off.

 

If this doesn't help and you prefer me to ignore you and vice versa, so be it.

 

Extremely kind and thoughtful response.

 

Sorry, JD. I should not take space away from you. You are the greatest, man.

[Frequentflier]

WG2 Perhaps you want to rethink your last sentence.

Grammatically that sentence is a mess. I am not the grammar police usually....

 

Followed by "all evidence to the contrary" or "but". Now you'll want to be very careful about your grammar

[+ quoththeraven]

Thanks, WilliamM. It would feel self-aggrandizing to push the "like" button, and I didn't quote you to keep the space this takes up here smaller.

 

Curiousnomore -- While I understand your point (and this may seem strange coming from me), Wisconsinguy has been upfront about being the kind of person who, when he finds an escort he likes, sticks with him rather than sampling, as others do, in part because that gives him an opportunity to get to know the escort in more depth. He hit the ball out of the park with his first hire. As someone who's more inclined to do the same (not to speak of as someone with much fewer possible choices than most of the rest of you), I think it's unfair to call that close-minded. I also realize that as someone relatively new to the forum, you had no reason to know that. JD and I have met and are friends (though I give him a hard time from time to time, and he'll testify to that! It's in my DNA!) and I appreciate your talking him up,

 

That said, no one escort is "the best" for everyone, but a particular escort can be "the best" for a particular person. Wisconsinguy didn't deserve crap for his choice of escort. Everyone's entitled to their opinions about other matters raised that didn't have a lot to do with the topic of this thread, but I don't see how it's useful to air those opinions on the forum, whether in this thread or elsewhere. So please keep anything having to do with WG2 and me to yourselves. PMs among yourselves are fine if you absolutely feel you have to vent. Unless you're already close friends and exchange PMs with one of us, do the sensible thing and don't contact either of us about it.

 

Given the direction the thread's taken, I felt that needed to be said.

[curiousnomore]

Thanks, WilliamM. It would feel self-aggrandizing to push the "like" button, and I didn't quote you to keep the space this takes up here smaller.

 

Curiousnomore -- While I understand your point (and this may seem strange coming from me), Wisconsinguy has been upfront about being the kind of person who, when he finds an escort he likes, sticks with him rather than sampling, as others do, in part because that gives him an opportunity to get to know the escort in more depth. He hit the ball out of the park with his first hire. As someone who's more inclined to do the same (not to speak of as someone with much fewer possible choices than most of the rest of you), I think it's unfair to call that close-minded. I also realize that as someone relatively new to the forum, you had no reason to know that. JD and I have met and are friends (though I give him a hard time from time to time, and he'll testify to that! It's in my DNA!) and I appreciate your talking him up,

 

That said, no one escort is "the best" for everyone, but a particular escort can be "the best" for a particular person. Wisconsinguy didn't deserve crap for his choice of escort. Everyone's entitled to their opinions about other matters raised that didn't have a lot to do with the topic of this thread, but I don't see how it's useful to air those opinions on the forum, whether in this thread or elsewhere. So please keep anything having to do with WG2 and me to yourselves. PMs among yourselves are fine if you absolutely feel you have to vent. Unless you're already close friends and exchange PMs with one of us, do the sensible thing and don't contact either of us about it.

 

Given the direction the thread's taken, I felt that needed to be said.

I appreciate your measured response QTR. I saw WGs post on this thread shortly after a completely unrelated event pissed me off. I took offense to his dismissive mention of Sam and I defended him aggressively. Sam has earned nothing less from me.

With that said, I apologize, WG, you didn't deserve my harsh reply.