Muscle Stud Boy in NYC......where'd he go?

[Tigger]

It's been happening since the dawn of time. In the olden days, there were safeguards against that. Historically, straight women made men prove themselves before they started playing wife. That's why women's fathers, similar to agents in Hollywood, played bad cop and subjected suitors to tough questions.

 

I know it happens. I'm just bringing up that if MS Boy did do that, he's not a decent guy. Of course he's handsome enough and hung enough that many people on this Forum and out in the world would make excuses for him because they want to be with him. But that also is the way of the world. Extremely attractive people in many situations get away with things average to below average looking people can't. And this seems especially true with us gays where looks and cocks can totally overwhelm our better instincts.

[BaronArtz]

Sorry

[Tigger]

Let me say this: he is not hung at all. I personally think he is fine in that department, but in his own mind he is deeply embarrassed about his cock size. It was in fact the first thing he said, when we got naked during our first encounter: 'I wish I had a bigger dick'. He told me that when he breaks up with a girlfriend, often they insult him by saying 'they want a guy with a big dick'. Which, to any man, that is a quite emasculating and degrading thing to say.

 

I am not a therapist, but to me it is possibly one of the roots of his problems. He was a chubby kid as a teenager. His own dad, whom he introduced me to, said he was 'Michelin Boy' as a kid and as a teenager. He dislikes the size of his manhood. In his personal life, he labels himself as 'straight' but cannot establish long term relationships with women, except with MtF trans women and even then these relationships never last long. I wrote quite a lengthy description of this on the 'muscle service station' forum, if you care to look it up.

 

He successfully transformed himself into the bodybuilding physique that so many admire today but it took him 10 years to get there. Bodybuilding to me is a form of extreme plastic surgery. Bodybuilders often try to transform themself into something that cannot be achieved by natural means. For 'muscle stud boy', it is a shield that protects him.

 

As a friend, I wish him well and hope he can find his true calling. So when somebody says 'he is not a decent guy', be aware of a history that this person may have. I would not be so quick to condemn.

 

I realize we all have our own crosses to bear. It seems like he has a friend in you and I'm glad. Everyone needs a friend and sometimes an apologist.

 

I think though in your need to explain Boy's circumstances-you aren't really focusing on my point. Anyone, not just Boy, who deliberately dangled the option of a relationship to get someone to do something for them when they had no intention of ever starting a relationship, is not a very honest person whatever their backstory is.

 

And yes, FreshFluff is right. It happens all the time. It doesn't change the fact that it's wrong.

[BaronArtz]

I wish I knew how to insert pictures here (from my desktop, not from a URL) ...

[greatnorthernp]

Poor guy. And here we are, gossiping about him.

[BaronArtz]

Sorry.

[BtmBearDad]

Wow! This is one very good looking fellow! And he's a rugby player! *swoon* (NB: for the record, no one I ever played rugby with - or any rugger with whom I played - looked anything near this gent, unfortunately ). Those who engaged him when he was about, you say there were limits - can you give a bit more info on that (just in case he does start advertising again and such).

 

Its interesting to read a bit and get some insight from @BaronArtz on him. I can say from my own experience/observations, there are a lot of body issues with jocks/athletes. Some stem from the skinny kid/fat kid mindset; others from the measuring up to/pleasing dad mindset (even worse when dad was a bigger, better jock/athlete). I have a very good friend for over 25 years (met freshmen year at college) when he was basically a twink swimmer (tho hairy); his dad was this big bruiser type and my friend always compared himself unfavorably with his dad. Come sophomore year, he returns, we're roommates now, and he's packed on a good 30 pounds of muscle - looking mighty fine and it was fun helping him shave down for regionals and such - and his reply to compliments always circled back to his dad - as in "Thanks, dad likes it" or similar. He wound up getting very big and buff and still is a mighty fine looking fellow today. But, I think if it weren't for his dad, he would have been just as happy as the swimmer, you know? I also think he may have come out as well, but that's another story for another time.

 

As far as this gent's worry about his endowment - I think the overwhelming majority of men -gay and straight- would take a bit extra if it was on offer. Just like an average one can look big to huge on a small guy, an average one on a big/huge guy can sometimes not present favorably. Anyway, to my mind, its not about the size of the boat, but rather how skilled the captain is!

[kjun]

His head is too small for that body.

[BaronArtz]

Sorry.

[greatnorthernp]

Yeah ... true. But gossip about escorts seems to be the 'essence' of this forum isn't it?

 

It is sad that we treat people this way, and repulsive that we are content--no, eager--to do so.

[BaronArtz]

Sorry

[greatnorthernp]

I am sorry to read that you are displeased.

 

As I understand it, this is a forum set up to discuss escorts. Fellow poster 'Kuriousity' ommented so eloquently elsewhere, in connection with 'CubanDaddy', " If he does not want his "bidness" referenced/researched/discussed, then here's a thought....DON'T BE A FUCKING ESCORT"

 

The moral lesson being that we are to be content in excluding escorts from the common social contract simply because they're escorts?

 

I wonder if the obverse also applies, that escorts are to be content in excluding clients from the common social contract simply because they're clients?

[BaronArtz]

Update Jan 11, 2o16 - sorry, I am deleting these links.

[+ goosh69]

Another thing...he actually did go on a bit about how much he liked getting special treatment because of his good looks and also how sorry he felt for unnatractive people. This is relavant to the above taking advantage of trans women...he was indeed quite cognizant of what some on this thread were saying. It was too over par for me. And I LOVE arrogan! He was well beyond that.

[BaronArtz]

This was bad. Sorry

[borgerback]

Breaded fish sticks again

[+ Gar1eth]

I agree with you! That sounds like totally something he would say. That is why it was so difficult for him to be an escort, in addition to other issues he has in his life.

 

But part of him wants to be submissive to trans women though. Here is an example of one of his new 'friends' on Facebook:

 

https://www.facebook.com/dorismar.santibanez.58?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab&pnref=friends.recent

 

A simple google search shows that 'Dorismar' is a well known trans escort. Specializing in domination scenes, as it would seem:

 

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1698563040

 

So he either treats them as housemaids or 'slave girls' (his words), or he likes being overpowered by them. An interesting life!

 

 

So I'm going to put forth the proposition that maybe this guy shouldn't be an escort again if it causes him such emotional turmoil.

 

Gman

[natmas02]

yeaaah - Daddy can you close this thread? This kind of examination about escorts I've spoken against in the past. Yes this place is to talk about escorts - about their performance as an escort. Not to delve into some weird psychological examination of this escort's real life. This is not okay for you guys to do this - if we expect escorts to give us discretion then we should do the same. The fact that you guys are going really deep into this man is NOT how clients should treat escorts.

 

Sorry BaronArtz, but it's extremely inappropriate for you to allude to his real life and post pictures/facebook links of his friends - transexual escorts or not - and talk about about it so openly on a forum like this. People on this forum should not be okay with the way this thread has been going. How would you guys feel is the escorts in this forum starting telling stories about specific clients and practically giving their life story away?

[BaronArtz]

So I'm going to put forth the proposition that maybe this guy shouldn't be an escort again if it causes him such emotional turmoil.

 

Gman

 

You know, I would totally agree with that. I really hope he doesn't. The guy is still a friend and somebody I care deeply about.

[BaronArtz]

Sorry.

[TruthBTold]

I'm very attracted to him and would consider meeting up with him. I will call him (or text or whatever he wants) and see what his limits are. I will tell him what I am looking for. Because there has been a great amount of talk one way or another, I will get very explicit so I am sure my needs are going to be met. If he sounds like someone that is going to give me what I want then (barring anything I pick up on during the communication) I am going to meet him. If he doesn't come through for me I review him as such - Daddy's Reviews rules. I always remember I control the session and tell him that I don't want to talk about certain things if that comes up.

[BaronArtz]

I'm very attracted to him and would consider meeting up with him. I will call him (or text or whatever he wants) and see what his limits are.

 

I think he is still retired as an escort, unless if I missed something.

[TruthBTold]

Could be. One can only hope.

[+ goosh69]

Hmmmmm....the posting links and such might be a tad over the top, I agree.

[natmas02]

You know, I would totally agree with that. I really hope he doesn't. The guy is still a friend and somebody I care deeply about.

 

You're not a friend if you're talking about him like this in a public forum. You legitimately don't see what's wrong with what you're doing?

 

Anything and everything I have said is based entirely on publicly available sources on the internet. There is absolutely no confidential information disclosed. If anything, it should be a lesson to clients and escorts alike - be careful what you post online if it is something you don't want your mother to know.

 

This guy, on his FB profile that his mother, dad, brothers, best friends, girl friends, college room mates, rugby team members and others have access to, adds names of transsexual and other escorts as friends. If you do that, you can reasonably assume that some of the people in your network will google certain names, leading to very, very specific information. Could it be that he really doesn't care? I don't think he does. Nobody is THAT naïve ...

 

Even if he's coming back to escorting - at the moment he's retired and has been retired for over a year. At the moment the information you're giving is still really inappropriate and talking about his real life profile on facebook and identity. Even if he wasn't smart enough to do his very best to separate his escorting and real life, that's no reason to put his shit on blast like this on the forum. Again, you don't see how this really crosses a boundary in a client/escort "relationship"?

 

And the fact that you're divulging your conversations with him and doing a psychological assessment of his sexual orientation, etc is not publicly available on the internet. He seems like a guy in his early 20s who picked up escorting as a means to make a lot of money and may be sexually adventurous/trying to figure things out. It's really not that complicated and it's really weird that you guys have to go on several pages talking about this.

 

But apparently I'm the crazy one in this conversation.