Anyone accepting new clients?

[blackriver]

Are escorts increasingly wary of accepting new clients? Recently, I have tried to schedule with some very well review escorts on this site, but they never have any openings, which probably explains why they are so well liked. I've ready that most escorts have their regular customers, but is anyone willing to risk a new one?

[bobchitown]

Where are you located?

 

How far ahead are you contacting? Last minute?

 

How are you contacting? Emails are futile, don't bother.

[SteveEscort]

I would possibly consider making a phone call to any escorts you're interested in. We tend to take more notice when someone calls us. I have no problem with emails but a phonecall is more personal and shows the first stage of commitment to an appointment happening.

[blackriver]

I'm making phone calls, usually a week in advance.

[jimboivyo]

Are escorts increasingly wary of accepting new clients? Recently, I have tried to schedule with some very well review escorts on this site, but they never have any openings, which probably explains why they are so well liked. I've ready that most escorts have their regular customers, but is anyone willing to risk a new one?

 

there's a reason they have great reviews. a week ahead is last minute for the best guys in this biz

[Kevin Slater]

there's a reason they have great reviews. a week ahead is last minute for the best guys in this biz

 

I disagree. I say a week in advance is bordering on too far away. I can see it already, travel dates will change, projects will pop up at work, the bar mitzvah will be moved... In my experience, the likelihood of an appointment coming through is indirectly proportional to the amount of time and texts/calls/emails beforehand.

 

Kevin Slater

[imrthr]

 

In my experience, the likelihood of an appointment coming through is indirectly proportional to the amount of time and texts/calls/emails beforehand.

 

Kevin Slater

 

 

How interesting.

 

How do you reconcile your logical response to those escort ads that say "same day appointment only" or "no endless texts" or similar unfriendly words?

 

Even a few well reviewed escorts on this forum have comments in their ads about clients "wasting" their time in asking questions.

 

How does one deal with asking compatibility questions of an escort when an escort seems to imply (in an initial response in a text message) that a client should already have made up his mind to hire the escort based on the photos and words in the escort's ad?

 

Most of us know that photos in an ad are often bogus because the photos are not of the escort or the photos are very dated..

 

Is there a "nice" way to deal with this type situation, short of discarding the ad then searching for another escort?

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[jimboivyo]

I disagree. I say a week in advance is bordering on too far away. I can see it already, travel dates will change, projects will pop up at work, the bar mitzvah will be moved... In my experience, the likelihood of an appointment coming through is indirectly proportional to the amount of time and texts/calls/emails beforehand.

 

Kevin Slater

 

 

I see two guys who book up at over a month ahead. I see them when I can and they are nice enough to always keep me in mind for a couple of sessions a month

 

I didn't make it clear that these escorts are long session only (overnight or more). if you're mainly working an hour at a time, then Id agree that a week out is long.

[Bargara Leatherboy]

I can see both sides of this issue.

 

I know that as a partnered man who is hiring on the side, there are limited opportunities, when the timing is right.

 

Many times I have tried to schedule sessions with little notice to no avail, so now I prefer to schedule in advance, and Have never welched on a planned meeting.

 

I know I have contacted many hot guys who say yeah call me on the day, well on the day when I ring they are not picking up - or not available till midnight, or can you be here in 20 minutes.

 

Yet the hot guys who I have emailed, texted, talked on the phone with maybe a month out, have been knocking on my hotel door, or answering there own door at the prescribed time , ready to go, and ready to collect their renumeration.

 

I am guessing that well respected people like Kevin Slater - have about the right amount of business for them, but there has to be a bunch of guys out there trying to live who could be better at admin and time management and then see that reflecting in their financial security.

 

I do know that a guy that I find difficult to schedule a time with - is a guy I would only contact again if there were no other choices.

 

Food for thought

[rvwnsd]

How interesting.

 

How do you reconcile your logical response to those escort ads that say "same day appointment only" or "no endless texts" or similar unfriendly words?

 

I think Kevin meant "inversely" proportional, given the context in which the sentence was written.

 

...How does one deal with asking compatibility questions of an escort when an escort seems to imply (in an initial response in a text message) that a client should already have made up his mind to hire the escort based on the photos and words in the escort's ad? ...

 

I rarely receive that kind of response when I contact an escort. Almost 100% of the time I make the first contact by email and I always describe what i like and ask if the escort can accommodate. If he replies with anything other than "yes" I decide not to hire.

 

...Is there a "nice" way to deal with this type situation, short of discarding the ad then searching for another escort?-

 

I move on when the escort's response does not match what I am looking for. I usually say something like "Hey, thanks but I don't think we are a match."

[TruHart1]

I'm making phone calls, usually a week in advance.

 

My very first time hiring any escort ever on a trip to NYC over 3 years ago, I spent a couple of months looking at all the ads, at the reviews I could find in NYC, and just googling the escorts’ names who intrigued me to try to find any information I could on the internet about them. Finally after deciding on my final choice, I called him almost 3 weeks from the dates I planned for my New York trip. I actually was lucky enough to have him answer my first call. He said that as far as he knew, he would be available during the time I was there but requested I call again once I was in the city to set the actual time and date. I did as he requested and the best hobby I’ve ever had began!

 

I do tend to email an escort I’ve never met before for my initial contact if they have an email address in their reviews. Sometimes, if I find a new escort who vets well on a site like M4RN, I will send my first email inquiry through the site. There have been very few times that this failed me. Only a very few times, when a scheduled appointment fell through, have I contacted a new escort at the last minute.

 

After we have communicated satisfactorily with each other and I know what the escort’s availability is, I will set a date and time with the escort’s input that works for both of us. If he wants to talk with me prior to the date, I will call and talk, but if not, most guys are comfortable with texting the day of our appointment to verify that the escort is on schedule and that our session is still a go.

 

Each new escort is different but they will usually let me know in answer to my initial email if they prefer to communicate in another way besides email. The majority I’ve contacted are just fine with email and then texting on appointment day. All my email correspondence to each escort lists my phone number so they are always welcome to call me or text me at anytime in the process of setting our date and time. I’d estimate that about 95% of contacts I’ve made with new (to me) escorts in this manner have gone forth as planned with no hitches!

 

TruHart1

[SteveEscort]

Each new escort is different but they will usually let me know in answer to my initial email if they prefer to communicate in another way besides email. The majority I’ve contacted are just fine with email and then texting on appointment day. All my email correspondence to each escort lists my phone number so they are always welcome to call me or text me at anytime in the process of setting our date and time. I’d estimate that about 95% of contacts I’ve made with new (to me) escorts in this manner have gone forth as planned with no hitches!

TruHart1

 

I am happy with email and a lot of my longer appointments tend to start with an email enquiry, especially appointments booked weeks ahead. I've just seen a guy this morning though from London who is here in my city on business and I was free and he wanted to come straight over in his car. He was here from the initial enquiry, to my home and on the bed within 35 minutes of his call. He phoned... obviously because he wanted short notice and he was a lovely guy who I am sure I will see again.

 

I disagree. I say a week in advance is bordering on too far away. I can see it already, travel dates will change, projects will pop up at work, the bar mitzvah will be moved... In my experience, the likelihood of an appointment coming through is indirectly proportional to the amount of time and texts/calls/emails beforehand.

 

Kevin Slater

 

I disagree Kevin. I see many guys who book weeks in advance, they want to guarantee seeing me on that day and yes some do get cancelled but if they give you plenty of notice then there is no real harm done. The annoying thing is when someone rings for an advanced 4 hour appointment on the 19th June, keeps in touch and then flakes on the day. The amount of appointments you could have lost by taking that day off your calendar or telling enquirers you were not available that evening doesn't bear thinking about. I've pulled a couple of guys for it in the past, usual excuse being that they were let down at the last minute too and couldn't keep the appointment. I always say "If your good enough to make the appointment, have the courtesy to cancel it too, not only did I lose your appointment but I lost another too, who would have seen me that evening".

[JoeyBryant]

Recently, I have tried to schedule with some very well review escorts on this site, but they never have any openings, which probably explains why they are so well liked. I've ready that most escorts have their regular customers, but is anyone willing to risk a new one?

 

No one gets popular by never being available. That's like a store that's ALWAYS closed, still staying in business. I'm sure that most of the 'well-liked' super-booked escorts aren't really so booked with regulars to begin with, but rather they are busy pursuing other careers. Because why? I'm going to tell you:

THERE AREN'T MANY NEW CLIENTS ANYMORE. PERIOD.

 

Even the regulars are falling by the wayside. They're fucking on craigslist, they are hooking up on Grindr. They've turned to live in houseboys double and TRIPLE their junior who cook, clean and fuck on demand. Oh glorious day when the dependency bubble bursts, and guys realize these co-dependent relationships with faux prostitutes are bullshit, not to mention detrimental in the long run (ISN'T THAT RIGHT DONALD STERLING?????????????)

 

Look around, it's not hard to notice. Places where men4rent once got me clients, have dried up like deserts. Texas, the 4 corners, Minneapolis, Denver, South Florida, even North Carolina...have all become barren wastelands. I've come to the conclusion it's time to stop patronizing men4rent and rentboy because they are failing in bringing in new clients. Why pay so much money, when the return on investment is better with other sites? Time and time again. $200 used to be clockwork, and now it's just...work. We saw a surge of escorts in the last couple years, but you look around now, many are dropping (out) like flies and the market is being inundated with these fly by night city slickers who never last more than a year.

 

The truth of the matter is, more and more guys are turning to regular or non-escorting jobs...and when someone has that backup, you become just that...a backup. This is irregardless (not a word, but it sounds good in this sentence) of what you been told.

 

I disagree Kevin. I see many guys who book weeks in advance, they want to guarantee seeing me on that day and yes some do get cancelled but if they give you plenty of notice then there is no real harm done.

 

Why are you being so bloody condescending towards Kevin sorry...I just had to go there :o

[SteveEscort]

There was nothing condescending in my post

 

I thought we had drawn a line under this

 

Obviously not. I'll just keep out of your way because you can't help but have a dig

[TruHart1]

I hate to suggest it because I thought that this was an interesting question for a newbie client but now I'm thinking maybe we should order a black olive and Italian sausage pizza?!!

 

TruHart1

[jimboivyo]

No one gets popular by never being available. That's like a store that's ALWAYS closed, still staying in business. I'm sure that most of the 'well-liked' super-booked escorts aren't really so booked with regulars to begin with, but rather they are busy pursuing other careers. Because why? I'm going to tell you:

THERE AREN'T MANY NEW CLIENTS ANYMORE. PERIOD.

 

Even the regulars are falling by the wayside. They're fucking on craigslist, they are hooking up on Grindr. They've turned to live in houseboys double and TRIPLE their junior who cook, clean and fuck on demand. Oh glorious day when the dependency bubble bursts, and guys realize these co-dependent relationships with faux prostitutes are bullshit, not to mention detrimental in the long run (ISN'T THAT RIGHT DONALD STERLING?????????????)

 

Look around, it's not hard to notice. Places where men4rent once got me clients, have dried up like deserts. Texas, the 4 corners, Minneapolis, Denver, South Florida, even North Carolina...have all become barren wastelands. I've come to the conclusion it's time to stop patronizing men4rent and rentboy because they are failing in bringing in new clients. Why pay so much money, when the return on investment is better with other sites? Time and time again. $200 used to be clockwork, and now it's just...work. We saw a surge of escorts in the last couple years, but you look around now, many are dropping (out) like flies and the market is being inundated with these fly by night city slickers who never last more than a year.

 

The truth of the matter is, more and more guys are turning to regular or non-escorting jobs...and when someone has that backup, you become just that...a backup. This is irregardless (not a word, but it sounds good in this sentence) of what you been told.

 

 

 

Why are you being so bloody condescending towards Kevin sorry...I just had to go there :o

 

 

 

dude give it a rest. why should ANYONE take escorting advice from you, the guy who complains about barely making it in this business?

[BaronArtz]

Are escorts increasingly wary of accepting new clients? Recently, I have tried to schedule with some very well review escorts on this site, but they never have any openings, which probably explains why they are so well liked. I've ready that most escorts have their regular customers, but is anyone willing to risk a new one?

 

I have been hiring escorts for 20+ years and never encountered a problem scheduling an appointment - except perhaps with mega porn starts who travel frequently. More than timing, I think what matters most is how you present yourself. Instead of sending an email saying "Hi, I want you to fuck me. Are you available at 6 p.m.?", you could contact them by saying "hi, my name is Baron. I have seen your ad on X and read some of your reviews on Y. I think we would be a good match and it would be totally exciting to me to have a chance to meet you. Do you have time at 06:00 p.m.". Even the most jaded escorts are people too and I believe they will respond well to a courteous, upbeat message that shows genuine interest.

 

Disclosure: I live/hire in NYC.

[RadioRob]

I'm fairly new to hiring escorts. However while doing so, I absolutely agree with BaronArtz... it's all about presentation.

 

The boys absolutely want to make a living, but like everyone else they have feelings as well. As someone who makes a living in sales, I have to (figuratively) kiss customer's asses. They know I need them in order to pay my bills. At the end of the day though, if someone treats me like crap... I'm much less likely to return a phone call or if I do... I could end up being less helpful than I know I could be.

 

It all boils down to the golden rule.

[SteveEscort]

I'm fairly new to hiring escorts. However while doing so, I absolutely agree with BaronArtz... it's all about presentation.

 

The boys absolutely want to make a living, but like everyone else they have feelings as well. As someone who makes a living in sales, I have to (figuratively) kiss customer's asses. They know I need them in order to pay my bills. At the end of the day though, if someone treats me like crap... I'm much less likely to return a phone call or if I do... I could end up being less helpful than I know I could be.

 

It all boils down to the golden rule.

 

Perfectly presented

[SteveEscort]

dude give it a rest. why should ANYONE take escorting advice from you, the guy who complains about barely making it in this business?

 

His attitude stinks and is not representative of the rest of us

 

There arn't many new clients according to him. I've seen four new clients this week and it's Thursday. If you are an escort and that's your chosen career then you make it work or you don't. If by making it work means you work around what suits the client and not your party time and long lie in the next morning then it's the right road to a successful career, not one where you bitch and complain at any given moment.

 

I love every gentleman I see and I appreciate every appointment I get.

[SteveEscort]

I have been hiring escorts for 20+ years and never encountered a problem scheduling an appointment - except perhaps with mega porn starts who travel frequently. More than timing, I think what matters most is how you present yourself. Instead of sending an email saying "Hi, I want you to fuck me. Are you available at 6 p.m.?", you could contact them by saying "hi, my name is Baron. I have seen your ad on X and read some of your reviews on Y. I think we would be a good match and it would be totally exciting to me to have a chance to meet you. Do you have time at 06:00 p.m.". Even the most jaded escorts are people too and I believe they will respond well to a courteous, upbeat message that shows genuine interest.

 

Disclosure: I live/hire in NYC.

 

 

 

If you sent an email to me ..... Like "can I come over 4pm and can you do it cheaper", it's not a great start to an harmonious appointment. If you emailed me and and said "I've a massive cock, do you want it, send me some face pics" you're not going to get the time of day but if you send a respectful email, concise, with an indication of times and dates with a sprinkling of requirements then you should always get a respectful courteous reply from quality escort gentlemen who actually want the work.

[BSR]

The OP said that he contacts well-reviewed escorts by phone about a week in advance but did not go into detail about what he says to them. Just as a client, obviously each escort will have his own opinion on this, I think a week in advance for a one-hour appointment is too much lead time but OK for an evening (~5 hours, dinner + fun) or overnight appointment. Regarding what he's saying to them, I wonder if he's saying something that sets off red flags to the escort. Potential warning signs could be any one of almost countless faux pas, from being too explicit in terms of sexual activities desired (or even mentioning sex at all if he's also discussing fees in the same call) to saying too little (out of nervousness) or saying too much (also nervousness).

 

I don't hire as often as some on this board, but I've never had a problem getting together with an escort. Nor have I had a problem getting together with strippers outside of the club. It's not like I went to finishing school in Switzerland. It's just a matter of being polite and respectful while observing certain do's and don'ts. Manners I learned from my parents, but the do's and don'ts I picked up mostly by reading this board.

[JoeyBryant]

His attitude stinks and is not representative of the rest of us

 

There arn't many new clients according to him. I've seen four new clients this week and it's Thursday. If you are an escort and that's your chosen career then you make it work or you don't. If by making it work means you work around what suits the client and not your party time and long lie in the next morning then it's the right road to a successful career, not one where you bitch and complain at any given moment.

 

I love every gentleman I see and I appreciate every appointment I get.

 

You "sound" like an idiot (I'll rephrase from saying, "you are"...since I don't believe you are). You know that right? If you don't, I'm going to explain it. So listen up: You live in a country where the business is perfectly legal, and you're trying to compare some shit to a different person, different age, different race, in a different country with different laws.

 

dude give it a rest. why should ANYONE take escorting advice from you, the guy who complains about barely making it in this business?

 

Lord knows I'm real close to going ham on your ass, but god forbid daddy from placing me in time out, AGAIN..twice in a month. So...you will be responsible for finding the answer to your query.

 

Clearly both you 2 have chosen not to heed the true reality of the situation as it's happening. I just gave an example of a PUBLIC HIGH PROFILE individual, and how that very same trend is representative of the current situation, in America....for A MAJORITY of guys and women in the escorting business. This isn't my word, but simply my words combined and amplified from others. The numerous clients who have come to me and reported so and so retired and is now working for this and that company in this or that career. Or that so and so used to make lots of money, but is so broke, they had to move in with a client to get back on their feet, and they're still broke because they can't find clients like they used to. The escorts who have suddenly disappeared from several markets.

 

You can choose to take it for what it is, or you can criticize my word and stay in denial. I just gave a thorough evaluation of why guys don't answer to new clients anymore, in my previous reply. 90% of new replies are guys who flake, fake or cancel last minute. I think most guys are terrified of responding these days. Why respond, when you're gonna get, "sorry, but (insert 50 billion excuses from a to zillion). Disrespectful dirtbags have abused the word sorry so much, it's become like a bad omen.

 

It wasn't like that 3-5 years ago. I'm not saying there's nothing to be made, or that things are ALWAYS that way...but beyond NYC and pornstars, new clients aren't as plentiful and the responses not as fruitful. As a former escort told me in a email, "it used to be good 3-4 years ago when the whole internet escort thing was still new, but now it's just jaded and flaky" Many used to be good escorting cities are on the verge of falling off the map, until this codependent bubble bursts. The only way to really capitalize is to not stay in any 1 more than a few days time. Even then, it's no guarantee, and you just gotta keep it pumping.

[Bargara Leatherboy]

Laws and culture separated by ocean, do not change the basic, golden rule.

 

Treat others as I would like to be treated.

 

I would hire SteveEscort due to his attitude and I would not even make an enquiry with JoeyBryant based on his attitude.

 

The former would most likely provide me with a memorable interpersonal encounter, the latter most likely would be a waste of my time and money

[JoeyBryant]

Laws and culture separated by ocean, do not change the basic, golden rule.

 

Treat others as I would like to be treated.

 

I would hire SteveEscort due to his attitude and I would not even make an enquiry with JoeyBryant based on his attitude.

 

The former would most likely provide me with a memorable interpersonal encounter, the latter most likely would be a waste of my time and money

 

Whatever. The fact that you would even see Steve to begin with, let's me know that you're not even in my target market. So I'm not worried about that anyway. If it makes you feel better to talk about saving your time/money, while simultaneously wasting your time slandering a provider you never met, knock yourself out (or hire someone to do it for you).

 

Anyhow...I'll just say this. People can say whatever they want. The truth is, 'know it alls' who think you know the answer to every situation, is just that. They think they do. Unless you can see the situation as is, as it's playing out...then really you can't say anything 1 way or another. Getting mad at me for being the messenger just creates negative energy where there shouldn't be. But of course, I can't expect to reason with people who probably aren't wrapped too tight to begin with.

 

I just had a "new client" text me the other afternoon. Now, in my ad I explicitly stated in bold that I was out of town until 5/30. Guess what? I get a text saying, "are you available today, the 29th...I'm only in town for 1 night for business". Luckily, my handy dandy auto-template was in effect...so I didn't need to waste time responding.

 

It's important for real clients (not these people here who just say whatever to expose their repressed racial indifferences or pretend they don't wank to my pictures every night) to know, that when I talk in the manner I do, it has to do with people who don't follow directions, people who don't use common sense, and people who purposely don't live up to their agreement. Those are the ones that cross me the wrong way. Anyone worth their weight in salt would know that it has nothing to do with what would happen during an appointment.