When the client makes you an offer...

[SteveEscort]

Thank you for your reply Joey

 

I'm not discussing it any further but what I will add is that I didn't say I got 365 X 2. I said I do about 50 appointments a month and added that as I was in Turkey for a week, that month, I'd probably see 35.

 

I've been working for a lot of years and I see guys in different cycles. I don't tour very often and 95% of my work is local. I do travel to London and Europe for overnights and I am reasonably successful. I market myself for over 2 hours a day everyday on sites, twitter, chatting online with potential clients. I advertise in the local press too. Something that's possibly not an option where you live.

 

I do try very very hard to give a positive perspective on what I do and I work very hard as an escort. I'm a survivor. Not many make it past a year of being an escort yet I've been here a decade...and some more.

 

Let's just agree to disagree on this please. You may not believe a gay escort can be consistent with work, you've been invited to follow me on Twitter where I actively post about my everyday life. I don't live in any of the cities you mention and I rarely get involved with other gay escorts so the saturation level isn't something that had affected me like it affects them. Go on Google and type in Newcastle Gay Escort and see who is in the top 10. Usually 4 of my adverts will be ranked. Usually at 1,3 5 and 6 or 2,3 6 and 7. I work hard Joey. Really hard.

[JoeyBryant]

Thank you for your reply Joey. I advertise in the local press too. Something that's possibly not an option where you live.

 

Closest thing to it is backpage (which is generally the online version of the 'city' newspaper).

 

You may not believe a gay escort can be consistent with work

 

Actually, that's not quite what I was alluding to. On the contrary, I am talking about ALL variables present, to why I feel the way I do. Who wouldn't agree that not every inquiry leads to an appointment? I probably get 50 responses or so a month myself, but that doesn't lead to an appointment everytime.

 

I mean, I deal with simple everyday things that generally hamstring that ability to get any kind of consistent number of clients in any month. For example, just yesterday I had someone I never met or expected, EMAIL me at a few minutes before 8 am, asking for an appointment....THE SAME MORNING. So, I'm supposed to just be resurrected from my sleep the moment the email hits my inbox, to plan out an appointment by email for that same morning. Even if someone was up that early, they'd be doing 1 of 3 things: going to work, attending court, or catching a flight. By the time I got to the email, it was 11 am...and I haven't gotten a response back yet. You'd think that's a 1 off incident, but another person emailed me before him, at 6 that same morning inquiring about a visit. I also responded around the same time, 11 am...and got no response back.

 

Again, that's just from my perspective. But, with that being the case, that doesn't mean one is OR isn't consistent with their work. Who knows, maybe you're doing something that I'm not, or the clients in the U.K. have better communication and common sense skills than they do in the U.S. (I'll probably get ticketed for 'blaming the client', but the 2 examples above speak for themselves.)

[biguy]

Believe it or not , Joey, some people ARE up (in more ways than one) at 6 or 8 AM. I am routinely and I'm not going to work, attending court, or catching a flight! Do they really expect a reply…probably not but on the off chance the escort is up early, doing his laundry, or whatever and wants a meet, they're ready. On a day I don't have to go to work until 1 PM, I'm still up early and I'll gladly set up an appointment in the am for a nice one before work. But i also realize that spur of the moment requests for appointments are often not answered. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

 

BUT, don't beat me down just because I LOVE early morning sex and can't always make an appointment ahead of time. Some of my best escorts have been last minute AM's to begin with and, I can tell you, when I'm horny in the AM, I go to town! Whether or not the client chooses to return YOUR email may reflect YOUR attitude towards appointments like this. Put in your ad…"No last minute or early morning appointments wanted." - that way you won't have to complain!

[JoeyBryant]

Believe it or not , Joey, some people ARE up (in more ways than one) at 6 or 8 AM. I am routinely and I'm not going to work, attending court, or catching a flight! Do they really expect a reply…probably not but on the off chance the escort is up early, doing his laundry, or whatever and wants a meet, they're ready. On a day I don't have to go to work until 1 PM, I'm still up early and I'll gladly set up an appointment in the am for a nice one before work. But i also realize that spur of the moment requests for appointments are often not answered. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

 

BUT, don't beat me down just because I LOVE early morning sex and can't always make an appointment ahead of time. Some of my best escorts have been last minute AM's to begin with and, I can tell you, when I'm horny in the AM, I go to town! Whether or not the client chooses to return YOUR email may reflect YOUR attitude towards appointments like this. Put in your ad…"No last minute or early morning appointments wanted." - that way you won't have to complain!

 

I understand what you're saying. But...I was not suggesting morning appointments to be an issue. I've done stuff pretty early too, especially when touring, I tend to be more open to the morning visits since I have to check out by noon anyway. However, there was no attitude in my email. Here's my response to his email:

 

Nice ad!

 

(age hidden due to discretion) year old west sider looking for a session with a dom top. Mid to late morning? Today?

 

Hi there, thanks for response. Know the message comes a bit late...but I usually suggest calling, if someone is looking for a morning appt. on short notice. I'm still available, how long of a session do you desire?

 

Yes...I did let him know that calling for an early appointment is suggested, but the blood of his response isn't on my hands. Plus, I responded at 11 am. Even though I admitted I was "tardy" in my response (which in reality, I wasn't late at all as I still answered within the 4 hour email window many businesses suggest, or at the very least...by the end of the day), if he wanted to communicate by email for a morning appt that same morning, and actually expected a response...then I would have expected a similar courtesy in time-sensitivity to the email. He should have responded to me in under 5 minutes, and been at my place at 11:30 am, and we'd still have met within the 'late-morning' time period (being saracastic, but you won't believe how often WE'RE expected to Superman our way across town on such short notice)

 

Please understand, I'm not trying to make this the "war on clients" or anything. But, it's just common sense stuff. Regardless of how you feel, or how horny you are in the morning, you have to see it from the escort's perspective too. Who's going to see an email at 6 or 7 in the morning, and then be ready on a moment's notice? I don't know any escorts who would. And if anyone says otherwise, I want to see proof (just like the example I gave). Then again, one has to wonder if people are purposely going out of their way to miss the chance. You'll hear from other escorts that they aren't morning people...I'm not either. But, if I know the night before, a person increases their chances of meeting by 200%. I do morning appointments occasionally, but most times I know the night before or sooner.

[SteveEscort]

Believe it or not , Joey, some people ARE up (in more ways than one) at 6 or 8 AM. I am routinely and I'm not going to work, attending court, or catching a flight! Do they really expect a reply…probably not but on the off chance the escort is up early, doing his laundry, or whatever and wants a meet, they're ready. On a day I don't have to go to work until 1 PM, I'm still up early and I'll gladly set up an appointment in the am for a nice one before work. But i also realize that spur of the moment requests for appointments are often not answered. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

 

I have an Galaxy S3 on my "work phone" and its timed to accept calls between 7am and 11.59pm. My phone is on and working automatically from 7am every day. I am usually awake from 6.30am. I don't lie in bed all morning letting the world go by, I get up, get myself showered, spend about an hour updating my localised adverts, my website (which is updated every single day), my twitter account. I schedule doctors appointments for 9am or earlier if I can. I want the appointments in and so my philosophy has always been to work around the client. If I worked in a 9 to 5 job, my job would be to work around the client... clients bring in business.... brings in money... pays my wages and so forth. I apply those exact same rules to working as an escort.

 

If I have a routine appointment, say at the opticians at 2pm and someone rings me on the morning and wants an hour at 1.30pm, the optician will be cancelled and I will go another time. Why .... because that client might be a new gentleman I have never seen before and if it goes well he might see me another 15 times in the next calendar year. If I didn't see him and went to the opticians then he might see someone else and like them and I might never get to see him. That all sounds a little bit daft, I know but I have cancelled personal arrangements to see clients and had another 10 appointments off them. I don't cancel stuff like holidays or theatre bookings, or other appointments for that matter but when you're an escort you need every good appointment you can get.

 

I know of escorts who, when awaiting a delivery, won't work until the delivery guy has been. I've never done that. If someone rings on-spec at the last minute and DHL are delivering my new phone at around 1pm, I will say, yes but I am expecting a delivery so I may have to go and sign for something quickly when you are in. Never once has a client said "I'll just leave it then". If the delivery comes whilst he's in I will gladly tag an extra 15-20 minutes on the end for goodwill.

 

Who's going to see an email at 6 or 7 in the morning, and then be ready on a moment's notice? I don't know any escorts who would. And if anyone says otherwise, I want to see proof (just like the example I gave). Then again, one has to wonder if people are purposely going out of their way to miss the chance. You'll hear from other escorts that they aren't morning people...I'm not either.

 

Me, for a start, I would. If you want the money and the extra clients, you make yourself a morning person.

 

I wonder how many of these "non morning people" were able to hold down at 9 to 5 job in the past, commuting from 7am, like most of their clientele do.

[JoeyBryant]

I have an Galaxy S3 on my "work phone" and its timed to accept calls between 7am and 11.59pm. My phone is on and working automatically from 7am every day. I am usually awake from 6.30am. I don't lie in bed all morning letting the world go by, I get up, get myself showered, spend about an hour updating my localised adverts, my website (which is updated every single day), my twitter account. I schedule doctors appointments for 9am or earlier if I can.

 

Me, for a start, I would. If you want the money and the extra clients, you make yourself a morning person.

 

I wonder how many of these "non morning people" were able to hold down at 9 to 5 job in the past, commuting from 7am, like most of their clientele do.

 

So the fuck what? What does a 9-5 have to do with me? You wake up at the ass crack of dawn. Most clients do not contact me that early, so you can wipe your ass with your philosophy. Even one of my clients I know wakes up at 5 am, still had the common sense to book me at 5 pm on our 1st session, and booked me everytime in the past at non-morning times both local and in his home turf. He also doesn't expect me to be ready on a dime in the am and respects my sleep schedule.

 

Calling an escort at the last minute at a ridiculous early hour (generally 3 am to 7 am) is inconsiderate, not to mention probably won't work. I know the saying, "early to bed, early to rise". I also know the notion that waking up early=increased wealth. But guess what? While your phone is off at 11:59, I still have fuel to see and take clients from midnight to 3 am. And whether you believe it or not, there's some decent clients to be found at those hours, and I'm more willing to see someone at that time, than to be groggy and snot nosed at 7 am. I need time to stretch, eat, and digest. I can't do that if someone is trying to barge in 1st thing in the morning...without any notice the night before. I'm also the 1st to admit I have friends and we love the nightlife. If I went out the night before, and had 1 too many, morning is a no go for sure. That's why proper notice is just the right thing to do.

 

I've been around for awhile, and trust that there's no more extra money between 6 am and 9 am than there is from 6 PM TO 9 PM. Come to America and see how many people are still on the road after midnight. The world doesn't stop between dusk and dawn.

 

And FYI, part of the perks of this hobby is NOT being obligated to ALWAYS wake up so early. Shit, I used to work in banks and real estate offices and I had to be up at 630 and 7 am. When I was in school, I was getting up at 5:50 am. I have no desire to ever wake up at those times. When I do, I feel groggy and my equilibrium is all off. By 2 pm, I'm ready to nod off...and naps make me feel worse. What a great mood to be in for a client The good news is, there's 24 hours in a day, 7 days in a week. Get the hint? I bet you do.

[SteveEscort]

Dear me

 

You're a piece of work arn't you

 

I can see exactly why you get zero clients. Your attitude stinks

 

No doubt you'll have yet another sermon to reply back to me with but you're not worthy of a reply because you can't just let things lie. None of what I said was directed at you. It was a reply in general about what I do. I couldn't care less if you're out partying to 3am but there are equally as many escorts who do work during the light of day and arn't sleeping off their night before.

 

Should you quote me in future Joey, it will be in vain, because I'm bored of your constantly nastiness, your vile attitude towards clients and other escorts.

[MiamiLooker]

So the fuck what? What does a 9-5 have to do with me? You wake up at the ass crack of dawn. Most clients do not contact me that early, so you can wipe your ass with your philosophy. Even one of my clients I know wakes up at 5 am, still had the common sense to book me at 5 pm on our 1st session, and booked me everytime in the past at non-morning times both local and in his home turf. He also doesn't expect me to be ready on a dime in the am and respects my sleep schedule.

 

Calling an escort at the last minute at a ridiculous early hour (generally 3 am to 7 am) is inconsiderate, not to mention probably won't work. I know the saying, "early to bed, early to rise". I also know the notion that waking up early=increased wealth. But guess what? While your phone is off at 11:59, I still have fuel to see and take clients from midnight to 3 am. And whether you believe it or not, there's some decent clients to be found at those hours, and I'm more willing to see someone at that time, than to be groggy and snot nosed at 7 am. I need time to stretch, eat, and digest. I can't do that if someone is trying to barge in 1st thing in the morning...without any notice the night before. I'm also the 1st to admit I have friends and we love the nightlife. If I went out the night before, and had 1 too many, morning is a no go for sure. That's why proper notice is just the right thing to do.

 

I've been around for awhile, and trust that there's no more extra money between 6 am and 9 am than there is from 6 PM TO 9 PM. Come to America and see how many people are still on the road after midnight. The world doesn't stop between dusk and dawn.

 

And FYI, part of the perks of this hobby is NOT being obligated to ALWAYS wake up so early. Shit, I used to work in banks and real estate offices and I had to be up at 630 and 7 am. When I was in school, I was getting up at 5:50 am. I have no desire to ever wake up at those times. When I do, I feel groggy and my equilibrium is all off. By 2 pm, I'm ready to nod off...and naps make me feel worse. What a great mood to be in for a client The good news is, there's 24 hours in a day, 7 days in a week. Get the hint? I bet you do.

 

 

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[jimboivyo]

 

Should you quote me in future Joey, it will be in vain, because I'm bored of your constantly nastiness, your vile attitude towards clients and other escorts.

 

 

this. you just summed it up perfectly in one sentence

 

he's his own worst enemy and always will be

[JoeyBryant]

No doubt you'll have yet another sermon to reply back to me with but you're not worthy of a reply because you can't just let things lie. None of what I said was directed at you. It was a reply in general about what I do. I couldn't care less if you're out partying to 3am but there are equally as many escorts who do work during the light of day and arn't sleeping off their night before. Should you quote me in future Joey, it will be in vain, because I'm bored of your constantly nastiness, your vile attitude towards clients and other escorts.

 

I don't have an attitude, I'm just trying to get you to understand your way isn't the only way. You sit here and try to tell me I have to be up at 7 am, or I'll fail in this business. Escorting has ALWAYS been a night dominated profession. I'm not going to sit here and let you feed me some whack bullshit about waking up early.

 

I also don't "party" (drugs). I go out, have some drinks...no more than the average "good time" lawyer or accountant does every Friday night.