The escort asks for $$ up front, what do you do?

[bomerrang]

So there you are , butt naked lying on the bed, and the boi asks for the 'donation' to be placed on the night stand.

 

What would you do, or have you done?

[Guy Fawkes]

Say: "I'm so sorry, I forgot to put it out before you arrived."

[Lookin]

So there you are , butt naked lying on the bed, and the boi asks for the 'donation' to be placed on the night stand.

 

What would you do, or have you done?

 

 

Well, usually, I roll over, stand up, wait till he stops stops screaming and then shove him out into the hallway. But that's just me. http://www.boytoy.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif

[bigvalboy]

Well.....I'd say that I left it in the car, and I will be right back. Of course never to return again.

[adriano46]

Say: "I'm so sorry, I forgot to put it out before you arrived."

 

+1

[MrMiniver]

So there you are , butt naked lying on the bed, and the boi asks for the 'donation' to be placed on the night stand.

 

What would you do, or have you done?

 

I always put the money in a sealed white envelope and hand it discreetly to the escort at the end of the encounter. Every successful encounter has had the escort discreetly place the envelope somewhere on his person. Every single unsuccessful encounter has ended with the escort tearing open the envelope and counting the money in my presence. It has never failed to happen this way. Go figure.

[+ WilliamM]

Well.....I'd say that I left it in the car' date=' and I will be right back. Of course never to return again.[/i']

 

Great answer! Surprisingly, no escort has ever asked me for the money up front.

[JT Brooklyn]

So there you are , butt naked lying on the bed, and the boi asks for the 'donation' to be placed on the night stand.

 

What would you do, or have you done?

 

 

Usually IF they are going to ask UpFront it's way before you are Nekked?

 

Unless of course the Client is that UGLY the "Working Guy" needs a little more incentive than usual!

[DeNeufaille]

Well, concerning first time encounters: I've always placed on the night stand... concerning regular encounters: usually at the end of time shared with a tip. If an overnight, then come to a mutual agreement before meeting. If a weekend or vacation... best working for me is paying in stages for time (initial meeting, midway, and at the end)... just what has been working here.

[Frankly Rich]

I've only had a couple of escorts ask for money up front, and in each case it was because they knew they weren't going to provide a quality service...and didn't! On one of them I just terminated it after ten or fifteen minutes and left. The other I tried to suffer it out.

 

The rationale for hiring escorts reviewed here might also apply to the client. If he had the sense to research the escort, he probably will pay and you don't need to ask for the money up front. You wouldn't ask Daddy to pay up front!

[MrMiniver]

I think it is very good practice and reasonable for the cash to be placed on the night stand. Counting it in front of someone is totally fine, if the client paid correctly, what's the harm? The clerk at the deli counts the money before putting it in the drawer, same thing.

 

I think it's tacky, to be quite frank. But if you want to equate the service that an escort provides to the service of a clerk at a deli, that's your choice

[down_to_business]

I think it is very good practice and reasonable for the cash to be placed on the night stand. Counting it in front of someone is totally fine, if the client paid correctly, what's the harm? The clerk at the deli counts the money before putting it in the drawer, same thing.

 

I think it's tacky, to be quite frank. But if you want to equate the service that an escort provides to the service of a clerk at a deli, that's your choice

 

 

 

I just want to play hide the salami with both the hot deli clerk and KJ!!!

[bomerrang]

KJ, do you ask for money upfront?

[bomerrang]

I hope this post can help forum members understand why escorts on tour may ask for $ upfront in certain circumstances. Much love

 

What if you are home in Manhattan, and it is a new customer?

[thickornotatall]

The only time that has happened was a few months ago with a "well" reviewed French escort here in NYC....I thought something was off when he arrived and should have stopped before I started...about 20 minutes into our time he abruptly stopped and asked for his donation...I had already (in my mind) asked him to stop and leave...that just made it easier. He appeared shocked when I got up..handed him the envelope and told him it was over and to leave.He wanted to know why???...when I told him he looked nothing like his photos....and had not been truthful about his stats he became very irrate...and wanted to know what I had expected...he said all escorts inflate their stats...It was embarrassing...he was a shell of what he thought he was..and quite pathetic as he turned red....I wasn't at all intimidated..gave im one minute to dress and gave him so good advice...which was leave on your own..while you are able....rang the doorman and let him go.....A really awful person...After he left I looked at his pics and re-read his reviews...all too old..my fault...for being taken...his fault for being a liar...

[JT Brooklyn]

I think it's tacky, to be quite frank. But if you want to equate the service that an escort provides to the service of a clerk at a deli, that's your choice

 

L O L very True!

[bigvalboy]

The only time that has happened was a few months ago with a "well" reviewed French escort here in NYC....I thought something was off when he arrived and should have stopped before I started...about 20 minutes into our time he abruptly stopped and asked for his donation...I had already (in my mind) asked him to stop and leave...that just made it easier. He appeared shocked when I got up..handed him the envelope and told him it was over and to leave.He wanted to know why???...when I told him he looked nothing like his photos....and had not been truthful about his stats he became very irrate...and wanted to know what I had expected...he said all escorts inflate their stats...It was embarrassing...he was a shell of what he thought he was..and quite pathetic as he turned red....I wasn't at all intimidated..gave im one minute to dress and gave him so good advice...which was leave on your own..while you are able....rang the doorman and let him go.....A really awful person...After he left I looked at his pics and re-read his reviews...all too old..my fault...for being taken...his fault for being a liar...

 

Excellent...You did the right thing. You stood your ground, sent him packin, and in the end, lay blame where it should be. Well done, and I like the part where he says "All escorts inflate their stats" Obviously not true. The good ones don't need to.

[+ WilliamM]

Like I always say' date=' this is America, land of free opinion. I am the escort within this dialouge. Do you know that at least I've been duped 10 times $20 while I was on tour? These people know they may never see me again, hence they can underpay. My suggestions are coming from experience. Does anyone really believe I am equating what I do to a deli clerk? The principle is the same not the act.[/quote']

 

I have been hiring escorts going all the way back to Rounds, the famous hustler bar in New York, in the late 1980s, early 1990s as well as all over the world in the next decade and a half. In all that time, not a single escort has asked me for money up front OR counted the money when receiving it at the end of the session. Not one.

[mikefl81]

For those that leave the "donation" out before the session starts, doesn't that impact your tip amount if you had a great time and want to give one? If you really like the escort, do you add a few extra 20's to the envelope before you leave?

 

I've always thought it was a HUGE red flag when the escort asks for the money up front. I've never done that and have walked out once when the escort insisted. A few other times, I've had to literally show him the cash in my wallet, then we'd continue the session. It just makes the whole experience really awkward when you are discussing payment during the session.

[MrMiniver]

Like I always say, this is America, land of free opinion. I am the escort within this dialouge. Do you know that at least I've been duped 10 times $20 while I was on tour? These people know they may never see me again, hence they can underpay. My suggestions are coming from experience. Does anyone really believe I am equating what I do to a deli clerk? The principle is the same not the act.

 

I don't think the principle is the same. Not remotely. The comparison was yours, not mine

 

I think there is a whole different aspect to the transaction of hiring an escort that goes way beyond handing over money to a clerk to buy a pack of gum. Tearing open an envelope to count the money right after a "romantic or sexual encounter" strikes me as just about the tackiest, crudest thing one can do. Talk about cheapening the time together.

 

But different strokes, as they say ....

[MrMiniver]

I have been hiring escorts going all the way back to Rounds, the famous hustler bar in New York, in the late 1980s, early 1990s as well as all over the world in the next decade and a half. In all that time, not a single escort has asked me for money up front OR counted the money when receiving it at the end of the session. Not one.

 

There is a very well known escort agency on the west coast that requires you to give the escort the cashier's cheque or cash upon meeting them. I found that very uncomfortable. I really believe in the principle that you pay for a service AFTER receiving that service, not in advance. Let's be frank, what if the service is not as advertised? Don't you, as the customer, have a right not to pay?

 

Just asking.

[+ Travis69]

I tell the escort on the phone, when making the appointment, that money will be given at the end of the appointment. I hand the money to the escort and ask him to count it to make sure I didn't make a mistake. No one is embarrassed and everyone is happy. All very simple.

[+ Gar1eth]

There is a very well known escort agency on the west coast that requires you to give the escort the cashier's cheque or cash upon meeting them. I found that very uncomfortable. I really believe in the principle that you pay for a service AFTER receiving that service, not in advance. Let's be frank, what if the service is not as advertised? Don't you, as the customer, have a right not to pay?

 

Just asking.

 

Are you talking about Man To Man? Because if you aren't, I have no idea what agency you are referring to. And while it's been awhile, except for overnights or weekends where I think I have sometimes mailed Dave his part of the fee, I'm not sure I paid at the start of the meeting with one of his guys.

 

Gman

[MrMiniver]

Handing someone cash or leaving it on the "nightstand" sounds like some version of a cheap dime novel or bad Hollywood B movie. Perhaps my encounters have been of a different nature but encounters that end in that way would not be of any interest to me. it just sounds so cheap and degrading.

[bigvalboy]

There is a very well known escort agency on the west coast that requires you to give the escort the cashier's cheque or cash upon meeting them. I found that very uncomfortable. I really believe in the principle that you pay for a service AFTER receiving that service, not in advance. Let's be frank, what if the service is not as advertised? Don't you, as the customer, have a right not to pay?

 

Just asking.

 

I agree MrMiniver, except I think it depends at what point the service is terminated. If the situation is as thickornotatall describes, where 20 minutes in he terminated, then I think he acted correctly. At that point, I don't feel that a fee was earned. The client should terminate the hire the moment they feel that the hire is not as advertised, but it you go through with the service, then decided at the end that things are not as advertised, and your unhappy, I think you owe the fee. You go to the restaurant and eat the steak, you pay the bill. Strictly my opinion.

 

 

I had a very disturbing conversation with a very popular escort the other day. He was recounting to me the number of times that clients had failed to pay him or shorted him at the end of a hire. It seemed to happen most often when he was traveling. He was thinking about asking for a deposit up front for new clients. As Killian mentions it is an on going problem. Clients refusing payment or making excuses why they don't owe the fee at the end of a hire. I certainly don't have any answers here, but the problem goes both ways. While there might not be a solution, I think it is important to realize that escorts are a victim as often as clients are.

 

(Disclaimer: Killian I think that is close to the original....)