The True Definition of Erotic Massage?

[foranhour]

Yesterday I had another lackluster massage from a guy that advertises EROTIC massage. He was nude and the massage was ok but he kept sticking his dick in my face during the massage and at the end he asked if I wanted to release myself! I don't get it! During the initial contact I usually ask if the massage is nude, erotic, reease type massage (and maybe mutual oral). So, my question is: what do you guys consider erotic massage? What questions do you ask? What do you expect from erotic massage? You guys are great!

[+ beethoven]

If a masseur kept sticking his dick in my face, I'd assume he wanted me to suck it, and I would. As for the self-release, that's pretty weird. The questions that you say you ask are perfectly sensible, and that's pretty much what I'd ask. I expect a lot of body contact, and I expect the masseur to cuddle, and to play with parts that I ask him to. It doesn't include sucking me or rimming. I find that masseurs who used to let me suck them, no longer do. I wouldn't expect him to fuck me, but you'd be surprised at how many will do that -- don't require much encouragement, either.

Takes all kinds, right?

[bigvalboy]

My definition of an erotic massage is a 'happy ending'...It has been my experience however, that you should never assume anything. I have had masseurs tell me that for them 'erotic' simply means touching the client in a very erotic way, but no 'happy ending.' The flip side is that I have had the majority of masseurs offering 'sensual' massage, include a happy ending, without asking.

 

So to answer your specific question. For me erotic means that you will get a 'happy ending, there should be mutual touch, and I expect the masseur to be nude.

 

When I hire masseurs for the first time, I am very specific. I ask if there will be mutual touch, is the massage done in the Nude,

and is there a happy ending. Even with asking those questions you will find that some masseurs will be in the nude, but position themselves so that you can't touch them, or worse is the 'happy ending' that makes you feel like your at a clinic.

 

Ask as many questions until you are comfortable, and if you hear something from the masseur that doesn't sound right, or is vague about what he will or will not do, it is best just to move on...I was asking a masseur once about what he included, and he was very vague, when I tried to get him to say whether or not he actually allowed mutual touch. Finally he said, don't worry about it, I guarantee you will have a good time...Ok, that answer doesn't work for me. lol

[maninsoma]

I expect a massage with a release at the end. Beyond that, it's difficult to say.

 

Sounds like the masseur in question doesn't really want to provide massage but is willing to have sex with clients instead. Unless I found him unattractive or off-putting in some other way, I certainly would suck the dick of a masseur who kept putting his dick in my face. It's been a while since this has happened to me, but a few times I have ended up finding a new, lower cost escort because he's charging masseur prices but actually wanting to provide escort services. Of course if one really doesn't want anything other than a massage and manual release, I could see how that would be disappointing.

[adriano46]

I go back and forth between masseurs who advertise EROTIC and/or SENSUAL massage.

 

I then set out my own expectations and parameters:

 

a) I expect him to be nude or at least in no more than scanty gym shorts, underwear or a jock "when we begin" (the guys I hire are always nude by the end, and I do make this a non-negotiable element).

b) There can be (within HIS boundaries) mutual touching, and I ask up front how much or how little. If it is simply touching muscles, I do not even hire. I get nothing out of muscle worship. I love when in the course of the massage I feel hi dick near my mouth, and I know this is the invitation to begin stretching my throat muscles while he works shoulders or back or whatever.

c) I expect him to pay special attention towards the end to my butt and dick but I never expect the "happy ending" as it puts too much pressure on ME to jack off in 5 minutes, which is beyond my abilities these days (I build up over time) so I tell the guy also that I do not expect this (which amazingly often leads to more sensual play!)

 

I have a group of guys I know and regularly see who know me and my likes and dislikes, and their massages do include some very sexual touching (usually adding where the masseur lays naked on top of me (front and/or back) and slides up and down stretching me; sometimes also very erotic breathing and kissing and my favorite letting me work his ass and chest.

 

Only twice has the massage moved on - spontaneously - to out and out sex and to my surprise, no additional fee was added (although I left a very substantial tip).

 

One caution - one guy I met promised the world and gave me zilch. No touching, almost no looking! Then with 3minutes left he said, "Touch my muscles!" -- I stood up, dressed, paid him and left. Jerk.

[monopolizer]

My experience has been so varied that one can only conclude that there is never going to be any consistency which is why it is great that you guys are willing to share your experience.

 

In my book, happy ending isnt enough. My criteria for an erotic massage is that the masseur is nude and has a sexy, playful attitude, is suggestive with his strokes and demeanor and there is significant mutual touching. I am happiest and tend to re-hire if things get a little hot and bothered, a little mutual oral, etc. A few masseurs have offered more which is nice, but usually I dont want to have sex in a hurry. I've found that a lot of the masseurs who advertise sensual massages do the massage, then go for the happy ending which is a little boring for me.

[niceguyaz]

Erotic massage

 

I've found that the limits of an "erotic" massage varies depending on the connection I have with the masseur. I do expect both of us to be nude, mutual touching and a happy ending for me. I let the masseur set limits that he is comfortable with. Treating masseurs with respect has often paid off very nicely for me ;-)

[actor61]

Yesterday, I went for what I thought would be a therapeutic massage evolving into some erotic play at the very reasonable price of $125 for 90 minutes. The massage was excellent and indeed legitimately therapeutic, getting rid of some real soreness in my shoulders and lower back. It became increasingly erotic after I had rolled over on my back and ended up in full-on sex, including the masseur fucking me very expertly and bringing me to a very happy ending. I don't know if all of his clients get that kind of treatment; it seemed to happen pretty spontaneously and he seemed to be enjoying it as much as I, so perhaps it was a case of mutual attraction. At any rate, I didn't complain! And there was no request for extra money for the extra service from him. I've had a few other massages that were pleasurable and fun but never culminatied in intercourse, so I'm thinking that yesterday was an exception rather than the rule.

[Rod Hagen]

Regarding the definition of erotic, I know what it means, you know what it means, the rest are just trying to get away with a lot (or actually a little) and that sucks. Very sorry to hear it.

[luvsrubs]

I think this is a great thread and very informative and useful even though "erotic" massage seems like beauty, to be in the eye of the beholder. I also have had one masseur say to me without committing to anything, "don't worry, you'll be very satisfied" and I was. My question re the above discussions: how much do you feel you can ask on the phone or in a text. If I were a massage therapist of any kind, I think I'd be afraid to commit to anything in writing or over the phone, because I'd want to leave my self some wiggle room....so to speak. But then that's why I'm a client and not a masseur I guess. So anyway, how much to you feel comfortable asking about over the phone?

[+ Oliver]

... the definition of erotic, I know what it means ...

 

He most certainly does!:mad:

[bigvalboy]

He most certainly does!:mad:

 

+++2.... Indeed Mr. Hagen does.

[Guest pvt7171]

+++++3 kudos for Mr. Hagen

[+ Funguy]

What is erotic massage? it certainly is NOT a massage (therapeutic or not, even good or not) where the last 10 minutes are "brush the inner thighs, tickle the balls, a rub and a tug and you're done." There is way too much of that out there and it took me a lot of tries to finally find a truly EROTIC massage, from start to finish!

It starts with an embrace (not just a hug), a few wonderfully light kisses, exploration of OUR entire bodies, slow undressing (me of him, him of me), further exploration of all kinds imaginable. THEN to the table where the motion is long, smooth, complete, varying speed and pressure, exploration again of all areas of both of us, total body contact - front and back - continued massage as he goes to certain areas and back to the rest of the body, over and over, and finally an explosive finish! Maybe by both of you!

 

That is an erotic massage! It is MY gold standard and I now have no reason to go to anyone else! Wow! I'm dripping with sweat now....

[luvsrubs]

Wow. Indeed that would be the cold standard. I couldn't agree more. I'm certainly searching for something close to what you describe and have not yet found it. Plus and minuses in all areas, but no one has met the gold standard for me. I'm envious if you've found the description you just laid out. But doesn't mean I won't stop looking.

[+ Funguy]

You can find it in L.A.

 

masseurfinder.com/members/gregsbodywork.shtml

[corndog]

In another thread, I posted that a good, professional escort needs the special skill of being able to find an attraction with nearly anyone. I think that some masseurs who advertise "sensual" or "erotic" massage have some desire to do "escorting" but recognize that they can't perform with just anyone. So, their advertisements are vague, and if they can't get turned on enough to take the encounter to a sexual place, they simply provide a (usually lackluster) massage, and they've fulfilled all their promises.

 

I think I'm lucky because I really enjoy a good therapeutic massage, as well as an erotic one. So, I go in with no expectations beyond what's been promised in the ad, and part of the fun is the subtle "dance" as the masseur and client are discovering and anticipating what will happen next. Showing some respect goes a long way.

[luvsrubs]

Very nicely put.

[Racketjock]

In my experience, most erotic masseurs don't routinely have training and perform at best a lackluster attempt at mashing your muscles. I would rather have an escort encounter than an erotic massage. In the ones I have had, usually both of us are nude, mutually touching is allowed, and I get off. There have been variations to this, but I think that has been the norm I have seen.

 

With a therapeutic, expect the masseuse to be certified and provide a great therapeutic massage. With a sensual, I have mostly the same expectation, but expect to have a happy ending.

 

My best experiences have been with sensual where the masseur is talented at the therapeutic aspect and at the same time incorporates the sensual elements throughout the massage, not just for 5 minutes at the end. I have stumbled on a couple of rare occasions where the overall experience left my mind, body, and spirit better for it. Rod falls into that category for me.