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yes, but you don't know what the other ones do in private either really-so I don't see what the difference is, apart from the fact that the ones who BB on film are totally honest about it. I kind of assume any escort could be HIV, as they may either lie or be ignorant of their status, so i think the responsibility is with me.

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I don't hire guys who BB on films, I think it's irresponsible.

 

Obesity is already a national security threat, is Hiv next?

 

Agree with hornytwells's response. I'd also add that this post had absolutely nothing to do with the original poster's topic, in which he asked for info about Peto, not others' opinion about hiring guys who BB on film. If you'd like to discuss that topic, then start a thread on it, but don't hijack the OP's thread.

 

FWIW, Peto and I used safer sex practices during our session, and went through several condoms, with absolutely no problems. He's a really cool guy, and since he respects the client's wishes, I don't think there'd be any problem with the OP's hiring of him.

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Agree with hornytwells's response. I'd also add that this post had absolutely nothing to do with the original poster's topic, in which he asked for info about Peto, not others' opinion about hiring guys who BB on film. If you'd like to discuss that topic, then start a thread on it, but don't hijack the OP's thread.

 

FWIW, Peto and I used safer sex practices during our session, and went through several condoms, with absolutely no problems. He's a really cool guy, and since he respects the client's wishes, I don't think there'd be any problem with the OP's hiring of him.

 

I assume everybody else is Poz and I'm the only one who's negative, that's why I'm negative is not rocket science.

 

I just wanted to warn the original poster about Peto's behavior on camera which I'm sure reflects his behavior in private, you don't just wake up and think: "I'm gonna start barebacking in porno".

 

Having such a large selection of escorts I would rather hiring one who plays safe, or at least says he plays safe and there's no open proof of him not playing safe because as we all know, sometimes people lie.

 

It's just a personal choice, I'm sure Peto is a fun guy, but I think all this sudden BB acceptance on corbinfisher and seancody is contributing to the expansion of BB as a normal/expected behavior, and as a taxpayer I don't want to encourage it.

 

My grandma used to say: "Don't feed them because they breed". I love porno, but every time I hear about tittles like "taking loads in your ass" or "breeding" or "ass cum sluts" I presume some or all the guys who perform those kind of films are positive and I can't help thinking about all the $$$$ it's going to cost.

 

I'd rather hiring a guy who works with Michael Lucas or Falcon and plays safe on camera (and presumably in private) than someone who is "unapologetic" about barebacking in and out of camera too.

 

If you like Peto so much, please write a review about him, in the meantime may I just warn his potential clients about his on camera behavior?

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It has nothing to do with me liking Peto so much. In fact, I said in my first post that I did submit a review. The point was, this thread was asking us if we had information about Peto in his escorting capacity. If you want to discuss escorts who BB, that's your prerogative, but don't take over someone else's thread to do it. The OP did not ask about who YOU would rather hire, nor did he ask for your assumptions about what Peto does in his private life

 

Plus, did you really think you needed to inform the OP about Peto's porn work? That's likely the reason he knew of Peto in the first place, since he referred to him as "pornstar Peto Coast" and then linked to his blog. You most certainly were not informing or warning the OP of anything with respect to Peto Coast's "on camera behavior".

 

I assume everybody else is Poz and I'm the only one who's negative, that's why I'm negative is not rocket science.

 

I just wanted to warn the original poster about Peto's behavior on camera which I'm sure reflects his behavior in private, you don't just wake up and think: "I'm gonna start barebacking in porno".

 

Having such a large selection of escorts I would rather hiring one who plays safe, or at least says he plays safe and there's no open proof of him not playing safe because as we all know, sometimes people lie.

 

It's just a personal choice, I'm sure Peto is a fun guy, but I think all this sudden BB acceptance on corbinfisher and seancody is contributing to the expansion of BB as a normal/expected behavior, and as a taxpayer I don't want to encourage it.

 

My grandma used to say: "Don't feed them because they breed". I love porno, but every time I hear about tittles like "taking loads in your ass" or "breeding" or "ass cum sluts" I presume some or all the guys who perform those kind of films are positive and I can't help thinking about all the $$$$ it's going to cost.

 

I'd rather hiring a guy who works with Michael Lucas or Falcon and plays safe on camera (and presumably in private) than someone who is "unapologetic" about barebacking in and out of camera too.

 

If you like Peto so much, please write a review about him, in the meantime may I just warn his potential clients about his on camera behavior?

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"I'd rather hiring a guy who works with Michael Lucas or Falcon and plays safe on camera (and presumably in private) than someone who is "unapologetic" about barebacking in and out of camera too."

 

Michael Lucas and Falcon have used plenty of models who also appear in bareback porn, just fyi.

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Hey everyone

 

Thanks for the input. It's a mute point now actually. Peto no showed on my appointment and hasnt responded to any of my follow up messages as to why he no showed

 

that's a shame. He looked like he'd be a hot time. I had a frustrating experience with a well-reviewed escort (who, come to think of it, has been rather quiet lately) - we were both going to be in San Francisco and made vague arrangements to meet up (no specific date, just "I'll call you when I get there & we'll set a time"). He didn't respond to any emails during the trip, which was disappointing. I got a very apologetic email from him a week later that his trip had been MUCH busier than he'd expected (non-escorting stuff) and he looked forward to any time in the future when we could meet again. Meant a lot to me, the followups DO help.

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Hey everyone

 

Thanks for the input. It's a mute point now actually. Peto no showed on my appointment and hasnt responded to any of my follow up messages as to why he no showed

 

He was in Miami in late January. I contacted him both through adam4adam and rentboy. No response. I am pretty sure his tone will change as he gets older and less desirable.

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He was in Miami in late January. I contacted him both through adam4adam and rentboy. No response. I am pretty sure his tone will change as he gets older and less desirable.

 

Sorry you guys had that experience. Mine was not like that at all. I'd seen one of his rentboy ads for NYC, but he was gone by then, so I asked him to keep me in mind for when he returned. He said he would, and while I didn't expect anything to come of it, he contacted me a few weeks later, saying when he'd be back in NYC, and that's how we hooked up. He did tell me that when he travels in the States, it's mostly for business (movies, etc), not escorting, so I assume he was probably busier than he anticipated. He still should have promptly canceled or rescheduled, though. Oh well, there are still plenty of fish in the sea.

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I don't hire guys who BB on films, I think it's irresponsible.

 

I don't see what the difference is, apart from the fact that the ones who BB on film are totally honest about it

 

I can make the choice to be in the porn industry and I can make the choice to be in a bareback movie and I choose NOT to.

 

The difference, hornytwells, it that someone who barebacks is by definition more exposed to all kinds of bugs you don't want to catch. But ultimately, it is your choice and the hiring decisions you make belong to you.

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Steven am not sure you see my point-my point was that I don't believe that simply because an escort claims to have safe sex in his ad does not mean that is the case in reality.

"someone who barebacks is by definition more exposed to all kinds of bugs you don't want to catch". I totally agree, and I never said I did hire someone who knowingly bare backs, am just saying I think it is naive and slightly irresponsible to trust a stranger's word.......... I have slightly more respect for the ones who admit to it on their ad than the ones who lie about it. One can catch all manner of diseases from oral sex too without going into the bb anal, so I feel anyone who hires has to be fully aware of all of the risk involved.

The only difference I can see is that by being in Bb porn you are admitting to it-otherwise we simply have to believe every escort who says he hasn't ever done it.

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I agree with hornytwells. I don't think anyone is arguing that guys who bareback are not at higher risk of HIV or other STDs.

 

It strikes me as naive to believe that sex with someone who barebacks in porn is somehow more of a risk than someone who barebacks off camera. I don't see the difference between barebacking on camera and barebacking off camera.

 

While each one of us has control over our own safe sex practices, we have no control over that of our sex partners. When making safe sex decisions, that means we can only divide potential sex partners into two categories: those we know that bareback and those that we don't know whether they bareback.

 

Some in the latter category might always play safe, but we can never know with any certainty which ones they are. It's silly to believe that any particular person is less of a risk than any other individual. The risk is always the same because there is no "never barebacks" category (and no, I'm not saying that there aren't any guys that never bareback. I'm saying that no one can ever have enough information to place anyone into that category other than one's self).

 

In the abstract, marylander is right that guys who bareback are higher risk than guys who don't. But abstractions don't help in real life. When it comes to decision-making time, the risk is all the same unless you're having sex with yourself.

 

That's also why public health groups have shifted away from "safe sex" and moved towards "safer sex." The only safe sex there is alone or not at all. Using condoms is safer, but it's not "safe" because the risk always exists. If you are always safe, it doesn't matter who you have sex with because you're reducing your risk as low as you can get without abstaining all together. That's where the whole "I assume everyone is poz" method comes from. It's the recognition that having sex with any one carries the same risk as having sex with any other person. So it's strange that marylander adopts the "I assume everyone is poz," but then still categorizes some people as riskier than others.

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I want to make one point of clarification to my previous post.

 

I think part of the disagreement is a lack of common vocabulary. I think marylander is using barebacking as a proxy for HIV-positive whereas hornytwells and I aren't making any assumptions about whether someone who barebacks is positive or negative.

 

If this discussion were about HIV status, then marylander's assessment of risk is more accurate (which is a serosorting/harm reduction model). When we talk about barebacking without assuming an HIV status, it's the unknown factor that equalizes the risk between known barebackers and guys whose actual safe/bareback practice is unknown. When we are talking about HIV status, then it's the known factor that increases the risk. By that I mean, if you have sex with a man who you know is positive, the risk always exists. With guys of unknown status, some are positive, some are negative. So if you have sex with a man whose HIV status is unknown, then the risk is lower because there's a possibility that he's negative.

 

I don't agree that bareback = positive, but as far as a safer sex method, I think it's a valid personal choice to make.

 

That framework though only applies to HIV really (and herpes and hep C) because usually a guy doesn't know that he has other STDs like gonorrhea or syphilis. It's the unknown the makes the risk equal. And if he does know and is having sex without getting treated, then he's just an asshole and a horrible human being.

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I agree with hornytwells. I don't think anyone is arguing that guys who bareback are not at higher risk of HIV or other STDs.

 

It strikes me as naive to believe that sex with someone who barebacks in porn is somehow more of a risk than someone who barebacks off camera. I don't see the difference between barebacking on camera and barebacking off camera.

 

While each one of us has control over our own safe sex practices, we have no control over that of our sex partners. When making safe sex decisions, that means we can only divide potential sex partners into two categories: those we know that bareback and those that we don't know whether they bareback.

 

Some in the latter category might always play safe, but we can never know with any certainty which ones they are. It's silly to believe that any particular person is less of a risk than any other individual. The risk is always the same because there is no "never barebacks" category (and no, I'm not saying that there aren't any guys that never bareback. I'm saying that no one can ever have enough information to place anyone into that category other than one's self).

 

In the abstract, marylander is right that guys who bareback are higher risk than guys who don't. But abstractions don't help in real life. When it comes to decision-making time, the risk is all the same unless you're having sex with yourself.

 

That's also why public health groups have shifted away from "safe sex" and moved towards "safer sex." The only safe sex there is alone or not at all. Using condoms is safer, but it's not "safe" because the risk always exists. If you are always safe, it doesn't matter who you have sex with because you're reducing your risk as low as you can get without abstaining all together. That's where the whole "I assume everyone is poz" method comes from. It's the recognition that having sex with any one carries the same risk as having sex with any other person. So it's strange that marylander adopts the "I assume everyone is poz," but then still categorizes some people as riskier than others.

 

SFguy's post doesn't mention anything about guys who know who are HIV-positive, who engage in reckless behavior and don't care about safe sex practices and guys who are HIV-negative and want to remain that way. More and more often I hear people talking about open serostatus disclosure and HIV serosorting

 

This article can be of help http://www.natap.org/2005/HIV/031705_01.htm

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The interaction between sf guy, Steven Draker, and hornytwells, while very interesting, illustrates why I felt it was unfair for marylander to "thread bomb" or hijack this thread. This has now become the dominant topic of conversation, rather than the OP's question as to whether anyone had any escorting info on Peto Coast. It was highly unlikely that a fan of Peto's movies didn't know that he often does BB in them. So, the potential (now realized) for hijacking the thread was far greater than any minimal chance of informing the OP. I don't think the OP needed this kind of lecture in the guise of just providing information to an unsuspecting poster (yeah, right).

 

SFguy's post doesn't mention anything about guys who know who are HIV-positive, who engage in reckless behavior and don't care about safe sex practices and guys who are HIV-negative and want to remain that way. More and more often I hear people talking about open serostatus disclosure and HIV serosorting

 

This article can be of help http://www.natap.org/2005/HIV/031705_01.htm

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Strafe13, I understand your position of one of the "fan club" and I'm glad you enjoyed my "lecture" :-) whether you need it or not.

 

I know Peto Coast and if I post any further information you certainly won't like it. Not willing to start WWIII here, I abstain from posting any further in this thread. Please respect the effort.

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I don't know what "fan club" you're talking about, Steven, and I never stated that you lectured anyone in the guise of providing more information. I clearly said that was done by marylander1940, and I just didn't buy his excuse, as it was belied by the information provided in the original post. I only mentioned you insofar as marylander's hijacking post drew you out to participate in a direction that took over the thread. I never said that I didn't appreciate your contribution in general, nor did I disparage your right to contribute to any thread which suited your fancy. I just thought it was unfair that another poster so brazenly took over someone's thread, particularly in such a transparent fashion.

 

I never had an issue with you, in this thread or any other. What you may personally know of Peto Coast is completely beside the point. All I did was provide the information that the original poster actually asked for, and then provided additional information concerning my own experience with Peto that addressed the safer sex issue to which the hijacker alluded (i.e., that Peto respected my wish to engage in safer sex practices).

 

Obviously, the damage was accomplished well before you came into the thread, so it's more about debating what was done (the hijack), rather than preventing it from happening. Whether you choose to respond here or not is certainly your prerogative, but given your extensive reviews, I'm sure you can provide much of what I need in many a different manner. ;-) Ciao!

 

Strafe13, I understand your position of one of the "fan club" and I'm glad you enjoyed my "lecture" :-) whether you need it or not.

 

I know Peto Coast and if I post any further information you certainly won't like it. Not willing to start WWIII here, I abstain from posting any further in this thread. Please respect the effort.

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Wow. My intention was not to start this. It was late at night, peto was available, I wanted some more information, we scheduled a time and he no showed and never replied again.

 

It's finished and over with. I am sorry for creating a thread which got out of hand. Let's all move on.

 

Also, I'm new to this and have not engaged in anal at this time. I wasn't really seeking Peto for the anal. It was late and I wanted some companionship.

 

I will say this, I personally will always want a safe sex environment and I ask all people I consider perspective partners what their safe sex practices are. The unfortunate part of this is there's no way of knowing if they are lying unless you ask them for test results , which obviously is not really realistic to ask for.

 

Example I tried hiring someone last year who advertised as safe sex only. When he arrived at my room he mentioned that him and his partner have Bb. I promptly asked him to leave. But not everyone is as forthcoming with that info....

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