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Wow. My intention was not to start this. It was late at night, peto was available, I wanted some more information, we scheduled a time and he no showed and never replied again.

 

It's finished and over with. I am sorry for creating a thread which got out of hand. Let's all move on.

 

Also, I'm new to this and have not engaged in anal at this time. I wasn't really seeking Peto for the anal. It was late and I wanted some companionship.

 

I will say this, I personally will always want a safe sex environment and I ask all people I consider perspective partners what their safe sex practices are. The unfortunate part of this is there's no way of knowing if they are lying unless you ask them for test results , which obviously is not really realistic to ask for.

 

Example I tried hiring someone last year who advertised as safe sex only. When he arrived at my room he mentioned that him and his partner have Bb. I promptly asked him to leave. But not everyone is as forthcoming with that info....

 

You have absolutely nothing to apologize for.

 

As many wise posters here say, you should always assume your casual sex partners are HIV positive , and act accordingly. Look at it this way, your partner, client, escort, or any one else who you might hook up with may be HIV positive and not even know it. Testing is good, but people far to often put too much stock in the notion that if you had a negative test a month ago, you are "safe" today.

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Wow. My intention was not to start this. It was late at night, peto was available, I wanted some more information, we scheduled a time and he no showed and never replied again.

 

It's finished and over with. I am sorry for creating a thread which got out of hand. Let's all move on...

 

I'm glad you started this thread.

 

Btw, 1+1=2, right guys?

 

BB porno + making plans and not showing up = irresponsibility, right guys?

 

I see a trend on this pornstar, I would take a chance hiring someone who does BB porno, I would use a condom (duh!) but I wouldn't take a chance hiring someone who makes plans and doesn't show up as at least 2 posters on here have said about him.

 

http://www.amazon.com/My-Undoing-Thick-Pornography-Prostitution/dp/0786717432

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I think when asking for information about an escort someone stating they do bareback in films or anywhere else is pertinent. Yes probably many of the escorts who don't advertise it do it. But to do it in films or to openly advertise it speaks of a certain mindset that many people won't want to hire. And yes for the purposes of hiring you might as well assume that bareback = HIV positive because if they continue to bareback unless in a committed monagamous relationship which by definition these guys don't have then unless they are extremely lucky, they will be positive some day. So it is just the luck of the draw when you happen to meet with them whether it is pre- infection or post.

 

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Your point, hornytwells is not new to me. I've seen it zillion times before. Did you get my point?[/color]

 

I think so? Your point appeared to be that someone who does Bb porn is more irresponsible than someone who chooses not to? I agree, and am fully in favour of all forms of safe sex, I never bareback. But while I do not mean to question your statement, I still think it is incredibly naive to assume that anyone who tells you they are totally safe is telling the truth, therefore one should be as safe as possible with whomever, regardless of your knowledge of their activities.

 

I also do believe that when asking for details about an escort, it is relevant if you have knowledge of their proclivities to give that information to a potential hirer. I feel that can be helpful to those who are not cognizant of their work, and since the information is out there it's not really repeating gossip. I might have tended to give the advice of looking up the said escorts work online and then letting the poster draw their own conclusions.

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I think when asking for information about an escort someone stating they do bareback in films or anywhere else is pertinent. Yes probably many of the escorts who don't advertise it do it. But to do it in films or to openly advertise it speaks of a certain mindset that many people won't want to hire. And yes for the purposes of hiring you might as well assume that bareback = HIV positive because if they continue to bareback unless in a committed monagamous relationship which by definition these guys don't have then unless they are extremely lucky, they will be positive some day. So it is just the luck of the draw when you happen to meet with them whether it is pre- infection or post.

 

Gman

 

I agree with your 1st sentence as a general premise, and if the original poster had simply asked for general info about some new random escort he'd just seen an ad for, I'd have had no problem. But the OP actually asked for escorting information about a pornstar that he already knew about, since he referred to him as one, and even linked to the guy's blog. Peto is quite well known for his BB porn work, and there's little to no chance that one who knows of him from porn and who reads his blog would not know that. This is why I called BS on the whole "I was just trying to pass along information" cover story, particularly where it was provided with the hijacker's personal judgments ("I would rather hire..." etc)

 

The OP is an adult, and if he chose to hire (or was considering hiring) a pornstar who does BB films, he obviously knew what he was getting himself into and had made a decision on what he could potentially be exposing himself to, and how to mitigate his risk (however great or small). In fact, I believe the OP later added that he was doing just that, as he was interested only in oral. Within this context, where the OP apparently displayed a certain level of knowledge about his prospective hire, I felt he didn't need a lecture in the guise of just providing information. It seemed rather obvious to me that the excuse just didn't fly.

 

But, Gman, under the general scenario of asking about an unknown escort as alluded to earlier in my 1st paragraph, there's nothing wrong with providing such information, as it is relevant. I just didn't feel that's what happened here, and that such a topic deserved its own thread, or at least that the OP should have had the opportunity to change his topic, if he so chose.

 

P.S., it's prudent to assume that all potential sex partners (not just for hiring purposes) are HIV positive, and to manage or mitigate one's risk accordingly.

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... This is why I called BS on the whole "I was just trying to pass along information" cover story, particularly where it was provided with the hijacker's personal judgments ("I would rather hire..." etc)...

P.S., it's prudent to assume that all potential sex partners (not just for hiring purposes) are HIV positive, and to manage or mitigate one's risk accordingly.

 

I don't know what is all this drama about?

 

Did I offend you because I said he does BB porno?

 

Is he so well-known there's no need to mention it? What about just whispering it?

 

Maybe the OP read his RB ad saying Pornstar and never watched one of his movies? Maybe he had other pornstars in mind too, who knows.

 

I started this thread and finally the 6th poster had to explain guys why I started it? Please read the first replies and tell me if when it comes to younger men naked our minds are clear and we even read the information.

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?92663-Would-you-hire-him

 

He asked information about Peto COSTA (is not Coast) and he got it, several other posters including the original poster, said he didn't even show up to his appointments, and only one said he was a good escort. Maybe when he does show up he's wonderful.

 

I don't hire guys who do BB porno, I think BB porno has made unsafe sex more acceptable, inevitable, and is responsible for the increase of new cases of Hiv among twinks and guys older than 55.

 

I have a friend who's a Buddhist and he doesn't buy anything from China... I also make choices with my wallet.

 

We all make our choices with our body, unfortunately sometimes the society picks up the bill for our behavior.

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You certainly didn't offend me at all, nor by saying that Peto Coast does BB porn. The point was you mentioned it not to inform the OP, but to preach. Your rant at the end of the very post I'm responding to only confirms that it was your true underlying purpose. It would have been one thing if you just dropped a quick FYI re: the porn, but you went on to preach about what you would and wouldn't do and who you'd rather hire. The mere providing of information was certainly not your primary goal, at least not how you expressed it.

 

Your assumption about what the OP might not have known seems rather weak. He didn't even say that he'd seen a RB ad, but instead one on A4A (I was the one who said that I'd seen a RB ad). The OP even linked to Coast's blog (and not the A4A ad), so this assumption about his ignorance just doesn't ring true. This is just a post hoc rationalization, and we both know it. (And it was Peto Coast, not Costas, and the OP spelled it correctly, despite what you just wrote.)

 

Like I've said a bunch of times on this thread, there's nothing wrong with your opinion on BB porn (which I actually respect, BTW), or expressing it on this or any other forum. But it was in poor taste to do so on someone else's thread that had precious little to do with that subject. You could have easily started your own thread if you really wanted to start that discussion.

 

I don't know what is all this drama about?

 

Did I offend you because I said he does BB porno?

 

Is he so well-known there's no need to mention it? What about just whispering it?

 

Maybe the OP read his RB ad saying Pornstar and never watched one of his movies? Maybe he had other pornstars in mind too, who knows.

 

I started this thread and finally the 6th poster had to explain guys why I started it? Please read the first replies and tell me if when it comes to younger men naked our minds are clear and we even read the information.

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?92663-Would-you-hire-him

 

He asked information about Peto COSTA (is not Coast) and he got it, several other posters including the original poster, said he didn't even show up to his appointments, and only one said he was a good escort. Maybe when he does show up he's wonderful.

 

I don't hire guys who do BB porno, I think BB porno has made unsafe sex more acceptable, inevitable, and is responsible for the increase of new cases of Hiv among twinks and guys older than 55.

 

I have a friend who's a Buddhist and he doesn't buy anything from China... I also make choices with my wallet.

 

We all make our choices with our body, unfortunately sometimes the society picks up the bill for our behavior.

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I agree with your 1st sentence as a general premise, and if the original poster had simply asked for general info about some new random escort he'd just seen an ad for, I'd have had no problem. But the OP actually asked for escorting information about a pornstar that he already knew about, since he referred to him as one, and even linked to the guy's blog. Peto is quite well known for his BB porn work, and there's little to no chance that one who knows of him from porn and who reads his blog would not know that. This is why I called BS on the whole "I was just trying to pass along information" cover story, particularly where it was provided with the hijacker's personal judgments ("I would rather hire..." etc)

 

The OP is an adult, and if he chose to hire (or was considering hiring) a pornstar who does BB films, he obviously knew what he was getting himself into and had made a decision on what he could potentially be exposing himself to, and how to mitigate his risk (however great or small). In fact, I believe the OP later added that he was doing just that, as he was interested only in oral. Within this context, where the OP apparently displayed a certain level of knowledge about his prospective hire, I felt he didn't need a lecture in the guise of just providing information. It seemed rather obvious to me that the excuse just didn't fly.

 

 

I disagree with you. #1. I would never really assume how much the OP knows about the escort in question. Yes, he included a link. But what if he hadn't really had time to go through the website yet? I may be acquainted with the fact that someone I see on one of the escort sites does porn. I may even know his website. That doesn't mean necessarily that I have gone through all the information at hand. I might be asking on this Forum before I spend my time searching for the information for myself to see if we are even compatible. Or let's take your scenario--the OP has more than passing knowledge about the escort in question. In many cases those of us on the Forum are made aware of escorts from other people discussing them here on the Forum. In that case I, as someone who is on the lookout for guys I've never heard of but might be my type, will be very appreciative of any information that people on here are willing to share even if some of the information might be already known by the OP. And it worked well in this case. I had never heard of Peto. He is one of my types. But finding out that he barebacks in film puts him way down on my list of guys I want to see--most likely eliminates him totally off my list. The sin on the Forum is not providing enough information--because for example 'you feel the time between the two of you was so special and sacred that you want to keep it as a bond between the two of you' (sorry --some reviewers in the past have made similar statements on their reviews--although not so much lately--but you get my drift).

 

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You certainly didn't offend me at all, (Really? Why all this drama then?)nor by saying that Peto Coast does BB porn. The point was you mentioned it not to inform the OP, but to preach. (Are you a psychologist? Are you concerned not by what I said, but why I said it? Specially if we both agree on playing safe? I wonder what kind of reaction you would have with someone who disagrees with you.) Your rant at the end of the very post I'm responding to only confirms that it was your true underlying purpose. (So, I shouldn't have said it because is so obvious everybody knows it and if I said it I was expressing my disapproval toward a behavior we both think it's wrong. Man, I hope your family knows that every time they talk with you they are walking on egg shells) It would have been one thing if you just dropped a quick FYI re: the porn, but you went on to preach about what you would and wouldn't do and who you'd rather hire. (If I just had mentioned Peto does BB porno that would have been ok, but the fact that I say I don't hire guys who do BB porno is what got you angry?)The mere providing of information was certainly not your primary goal, (The people who bought the Peabody Hotel's, do they keep the ducks because they care about them or because it's a tradition that gives them money?)at least not how you expressed it.

 

Your assumption about what the OP might not have known seems rather weak. (am I paternalistic?) He didn't even say that he'd seen a RB ad, but instead one on A4A (I was the one who said that I'd seen a RB ad). The OP even linked to Coast's blog (and not the A4A ad), so this assumption about his ignorance just doesn't ring true. This is just a post hoc rationalization, and we both know it. (And it was Peto Coast, not Costas, and the OP spelled it correctly, despite what you just wrote.) (I speak Portuguese, don't take it against me. Rentboy, adam4adam, men4rentnow, hourboy, does it make such a difference?)

 

Like I've said a bunch of times on this thread, there's nothing wrong with your opinion on BB porn (which I actually respect, BTW), (thank you for your common sense, and not getting infected) or expressing it on this or any other forum. (Wow! I started this thread http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?92663-Would-you-hire-him and poster number 5 had to explain the previous 3 posters what it was all about, try to read it.)But it was in poor taste to do so on someone else's thread that had precious little to do with that subject. (3 posters including the original poster complaint about making plans with Peto and him not showing up to his appointments, can you write a review about a restaurant if you didn't eat there? Just one poster said good things about hiring him and btw he did mention they used condoms) You could have easily started your own thread if you really wanted to start that discussion.

You are "making a storm in a glass of water"
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I never thought it was "drama," but just a good debate between people who have different opinions on some things, but similar ones on others. I was also never angry. If my writings conveyed that emotion, then I regret that, because it certainly was not my intention. Annoyed? Yes. But, angry? Not at all.

 

It wasn't that you said you don't hire guys who do BB porn that I found annoying, but it was that it came across to me as a passive-aggressive way of passing judgment on the OP, who, it seemed to me, was clearly considering doing just that (but, as Gareth said, though I don't think it's that likely, it's certainly possible that the OP was less informed than his links would suggest). Since the original post gave no info as to which kinds of sex practices (safer or not) that the OP was interested in, it seemed to me (erroneously now, I admit) that your post was subtly trying to shame or pressure him into not hiring someone that he was interested in, as well as assuming that this (or any) escort/actor who performs BB porn would only do BB escort work, and not respect the safer sex wishes of the client. While that could have been a reasonable interpretation of the intent of your post, I realize now that I assumed the worst without having any real experience with you on which to base it. While there are certainly many posters on this forum who have such an inflammatory history that would support such an assumption, to my knowledge you are not in that category. It was unfair of me to not give you the benefit of the doubt. For that, you have my sincere apologies.

 

I've re-read this thread from the beginning, and in hindsight, I believe I came off too strongly. While I disagreed with how (and when) you chose to express your opinions, I didn't mean for it to sound as if I had any kind of anger or animosity towards you. I did not, and do not. I actually enjoy most of your posts, particularly the pictures. I hope you accept my apology, and please don't report me to the ASPCA for the beating the crap out of that poor dead horse! :-)

 

You are "making a storm in a glass of water"
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I never thought it was "drama," but just a good debate between people who have different opinions on some things, but similar ones on others. I was also never angry. If my writings conveyed that emotion, then I regret that, because it certainly was not my intention. Annoyed? Yes. But, angry? Not at all.

 

It wasn't that you said you don't hire guys who do BB porn that I found annoying, but it was that it came across to me as a passive-aggressive way of passing judgment on the OP, who, it seemed to me, was clearly considering doing just that (but, as Gareth said, though I don't think it's that likely, it's certainly possible that the OP was less informed than his links would suggest). Since the original post gave no info as to which kinds of sex practices (safer or not) that the OP was interested in, it seemed to me (erroneously now, I admit) that your post was subtly trying to shame or pressure him into not hiring someone that he was interested in, as well as assuming that this (or any) escort/actor who performs BB porn would only do BB escort work, and not respect the safer sex wishes of the client. While that could have been a reasonable interpretation of the intent of your post, I realize now that I assumed the worst without having any real experience with you on which to base it. While there are certainly many posters on this forum who have such an inflammatory history that would support such an assumption, to my knowledge you are not in that category. It was unfair of me to not give you the benefit of the doubt. For that, you have my sincere apologies.

 

I've re-read this thread from the beginning, and in hindsight, I believe I came off too strongly. While I disagreed with how (and when) you chose to express your opinions, I didn't mean for it to sound as if I had any kind of anger or animosity towards you. I did not, and do not. I actually enjoy most of your posts, particularly the pictures. I hope you accept my apology, and please don't report me to the ASPCA for the beating the crap out of that poor dead horse! :-)

 

That was very nice of you to admit that you might have come on too strongly. I don't want to blow my own horn-pretty much a physical impossibility in my case but gosh I certainly wish I could find someone to do it, but I digress-I've apologized when I've thought I was wrong several times over the years. I probably need to do it more often, but then so do a lot of us on here, I dare say.

 

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I never thought it was "drama," but just a good debate between people who have different opinions on some things, but similar ones on others. I was also never angry. If my writings conveyed that emotion, then I regret that, because it certainly was not my intention. Annoyed? Yes. But, angry? Not at all.

 

It wasn't that you said you don't hire guys who do BB porn that I found annoying, but it was that it came across to me as a passive-aggressive way of passing judgment on the OP, who, it seemed to me, was clearly considering doing just that (but, as Gareth said, though I don't think it's that likely, it's certainly possible that the OP was less informed than his links would suggest). Since the original post gave no info as to which kinds of sex practices (safer or not) that the OP was interested in, it seemed to me (erroneously now, I admit) that your post was subtly trying to shame or pressure him into not hiring someone that he was interested in, as well as assuming that this (or any) escort/actor who performs BB porn would only do BB escort work, and not respect the safer sex wishes of the client. While that could have been a reasonable interpretation of the intent of your post, I realize now that I assumed the worst without having any real experience with you on which to base it. While there are certainly many posters on this forum who have such an inflammatory history that would support such an assumption, to my knowledge you are not in that category. It was unfair of me to not give you the benefit of the doubt. For that, you have my sincere apologies.

 

I've re-read this thread from the beginning, and in hindsight, I believe I came off too strongly. While I disagreed with how (and when) you chose to express your opinions, I didn't mean for it to sound as if I had any kind of anger or animosity towards you. I did not, and do not. I actually enjoy most of your posts, particularly the pictures. I hope you accept my apology, and please don't report me to the ASPCA for the beating the crap out of that poor dead horse! :-)

 

Thank you, no need to apologize at all, my comment sounded gossipy to a lot of guys on here. I'm true to myself and others and I don't want to pay or encourage behaviors I don't accept and are draining money from our country.

Let's be cool with each other, this may not be the first time we disagree or misunderstand each other, the world without misunderstandings wouldn't be fun.

M.

 

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Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the thread.

 

Getting back on topic, I once contacted Peto and it didn't work out. He suggested a time that he was available and after I responded that it worked for me, he vanished. We never confirmed and never met. He didn't respond to my texts or call. Not sure if that's his MO or if he's just a popular guy and someone else beat me to punch. Regardless, a simple response saying that it wasn't going to work out would have been nice.

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Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the thread.

 

Getting back on topic, I once contacted Peto and it didn't work out. He suggested a time that he was available and after I responded that it worked for me, he vanished. We never confirmed and never met. He didn't respond to my texts or call. Not sure if that's his MO or if he's just a popular guy and someone else beat me to punch. Regardless, a simple response saying that it wasn't going to work out would have been nice.

 

You are the 4th person, including the OP who says made plans and he never showed up nor cancel, in your case he never reply to confirm/cancel.

 

I see a trend, and the ending is not going to be pretty.

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