Would you write someone off due to where they advertised? Seriously

[JoeyBryant]

Here's the thing; if he's advertising on backpage.com, he's scraping the bottom of the barrel.

 

In my opinion when a man goes to the backpage.com venue, he is, more likely than not, "done" as an escort, "scraping the bottom" of the barrel" being an apt description, I think.

 

I am quoting 2 responses from another thread...only doing it here because I didn't want to detract from the original topic that was going on.

 

But I just found these comments to be a bit presumptuous. I know the backpage thing has been discussed a hundred times but why anyone would make a statement about someone who's advertising there just seems unwarranted. It's just another route of advertising. Whether someone can say they've actually met someone who advertises on that site along with the more reputable ones and can say they've experienced bad performance would be more believable.

 

I advertise on backpage once in awhile but as of late it hasn't been much worth doing it anymore BUT, there were times I advertised there and it served it's purpose. Maybe someone doesn't want to wait all week/month to come across $200-300 for an appointment but perhaps they can meet someone for a shorter period. I met a guy from BP was bi-curious and seen me 3 times one week...for under 30 minutes. It worked out to equate the amount as a 2 hour appointment would be that week.

 

Let's face it. A lot of these sites aren't really doing all they can to bring in customers for us. I think they could so more. Everything seems to be about getting more money from the escort and adding stupid bells and whistles that promise to bring more clients but barely does shit. When they should be focusing on allowing and suggestions for rates to both clients and escorts, capping the amount of ads that can advertise at one time (I doubt 300 guys are all looking for a client the same day, this would separate the guys who are actually available versus just doing it once or twice and leaving the ad up all month. But you can't because unlike backpage, the dumbo sites won't let you advertise weekly, they want to take all your money for a whole month) and maybe putting banners on other sites instead other websites banners for freesex4now bullshit. And maybe operate like an agency (because after-all, there are few if any gay escort agencies in this country. When you type in google (insert city) male escort agency and guess what comes up? BACKPAGE) by requiring professional pics to be taken, not allow the rentboy of the day with some doggone out of focus cell phone picture. Which obviously means they are allowing the 'system' to choose the escort at random. It's just so unprofessional and they don't give a shit. Everytime I offer these suggestions, they don't respond because they know they don't give a shit.

 

It's like these sites are beginning to be a joke. For the money these sites are charging us escorts they need to do better instead of just slopping up a bunch of worthless features that don't get results and expect us to just not give a damn. But the issue is, they are so complacent because they are the most popular/lots of traffic and although sites like hourboy and rentmen have great layouts and I really like them, they simply aren't visible everywhere.

 

Then again maybe there's only so much that can be done publicly due to the legalities of it. But I remember commercials for interactive male and megaphone and they still occasionally advertise them. Most escort sites get internet advertising on google only. But point is, if someone wants to go someplace else and get different exposure how does that make them scrapping the bottom of the barrel or done as an escort?

[rvwnsd]

In answer to your question, "Would you write someone off due to where they advertise?"

 

No!

[Nvr2Thick]

Would you write someone off due to where they advertised? Seriously

 

With the more mainstream sites the quantity of ads is supposed to equate to credibility. For Rentboy this means that a guy with an escort ad and a massage ad ends up with two instances of his ad. When I'm searching through all the available guys in a large city I have to sift through dozens of extra ads on a site not designed for quick browsing. For Men4RentNow this means that I have to figure out the cutoff point between active and inactive ads. Hourboy seems to harvest ads from other sites, so there are lots of dead ads to sort through.

 

I like the idea of slumming on Backpage, but I also find that it's a great resource for guys who are traveling. I've met a few guys who have traveled to Nashville who told me that Backpage was a better source for local business. Also, in small cities where you might see fewer than five ads on the big escort or massage sites Backpage appears to be a better option. I wouldn't be surprised if Backpage in Saint Louis is at least as viable as Rentboy. I find too that sites where ads are posted by date quickly screen out the guys that have retired or moved on.

 

I'm often surprised by some of the high and mighty attitudes on the forum. I'm picky about what type of guy I want, but I don't have the same high standards when it comes to how I hire guys for sex. It's nice to hire some of the best and most beautiful based on their higher-class reps and great pics, but I also got my start picking up hustlers in the bookstores in Times Square.

 

To be fair though, wasn't much of the premise of Hooboy's site and now Daddy's that we were banding together to take some of the guesswork and unseemliness out of the process of hiring guys for sex? Backpage ads are about 95% guesswork and unseemliness. Browse through the male escorts section on NYC Backpage. I certainly don't mind screening ten well-hung black thugs to find the one who's not going to rip me off or to find the one established mature masseur, but my tastes are not common to the elder statesmen on the forum.

[JoeyBryant]

For Men4RentNow this means that I have to figure out the cutoff point between active and inactive ads. Hourboy seems to harvest ads from other sites, so there are lots of dead ads to sort through.

 

I like the idea of slumming on Backpage, but I also find that it's a great resource for guys who are traveling. I've met a few guys who have traveled to Nashville who told me that Backpage was a better source for local business. Also, in small cities where you might see fewer than five ads on the big escort or massage sites Backpage appears to be a better option. I wouldn't be surprised if Backpage in Saint Louis is at least as viable as Rentboy. I find too that sites where ads are posted by date quickly screen out the guys that have retired or moved on.

 

Hourboy has a ton of ads I'd mention too. It seems that they keep ads up from every escort that ever signed up on the site. You think, wow I have a lot of competitors, not. But it's free and to me it gets just as much locally as RB does. They don't care what you say in the ad any you can post wherever. But again, it's just not as effective volume-wise.

 

Apparently the above quoted posters aren't the only ones (nor this the only forum) where advertising on backpage is seen as dumpster-diving, in the trenches, scrapping slop out of the barrel. I was reading a lady's blog where she too got some heat for advertising on BP. They (clients) have more reason though to feel that way due to pimps and trafficking. Most of us guys aren't being trafficked or pimped, we're doing it out of our own doing.

 

My point for bringing this up was to let others know that from an escorts standpoint, the main sites aren't all that much better than classifieds when it comes down to efficiency. RB and M4R without a doubt does attract more quality calls. If anyone is to be deterred from advertising backpage is due to the silly calls that come thru the site, just weird and immature but so does adam4adam. But the main sites can do better. Rentboy has been around long enough to be just as popular in the smaller markets as men4rent. Look at adam4adam, it's in every little bumfuck town in the US. The Grindr app. Just came out, everybody knows about it. I'm seeing guys at the gym on Grindr. If I walked up to them and asked if they've ever heard about rentboy they'd probably say, "nope, never heard of it" I know that's comparing apples and oranges and of course the level of exposure just won't ever be as high because the nature of the biz (and the nature of 'us' to make random hookups so easy) but still. They need to do better. But people are just going to keep giving their money away so they aren't rushing to make any changes.

[Decatur Guy]

I wouldn't completely write off a Backpage escort, but I'm much more guarded and cautious than with rentboy, rentmen and men4rentnow. (And I don't let my guard down with those).

 

That's not to say there aren't cons on those. And that's not to say there aren't legit guys on Backpage. But the chances of running into a con or just someone generally not worth hiring are better on Backpage.

[Francois]

Well speaking as someone who just switched from RB to Hourboy I dont really see a problem.

 

BP has a stigma due to LE being a stronger force on the site.

 

I'd like to think Quality, wherever one puts an ad will attract.

[JoeyBryant]

Well speaking as someone who just switched from RB to Hourboy I dont really see a problem.

 

BP has a stigma due to LE being a stronger force on the site.

 

I'd like to think Quality, wherever one puts an ad will attract.

 

Hourboy is fine. Don't really think that's a 'step down'. BP's LE are more interested in going after pimps and girls who are being pimped along with those who are working out of a hotel with more than 1 person, trafficking, etc. I think that's where a lot of people freakout. Certain types of ads trigger LE, I don't believe it's random.

 

That said, I won't defend the site too much more because it hardly does crap anyway. They've also crept their prices up as well. Used to be $3 to post, sponsor ad and repeat post. Now it's damn near $10 and it's not like there's been any surge of clients. Just like I told adam4adam, it's not really worth paying to be humiliated and certainly no more than $10.

[TopAz]

I've never hired (and probably never would hire) an escort that only advertises only Adam4Adam, Craigslist and/or Backpage. I just feel more comfortable with men who advertise on the more mainstream escort sites like Rentboy, Hourboy, Rentmen and M4RN.

[JoeyBryant]

I've never hired (and probably never would hire) an escort that only advertises only Adam4Adam, Craigslist and/or Backpage. I just feel more comfortable with men who advertise on the more mainstream escort sites like Rentboy, Hourboy, Rentmen and M4RN.

 

Now that makes sense, I can understand that. That's different than simply not seeing someone because they were on said site in addition to the main sites. Me personally, I first used BP after the main sites and from the advice of a friend as I'd never heard of it before. Honestly I used to like it better (and it worked better) when they allowed whatever pics and text but now they have become just like the others, editing everything you have to say.

 

However, in one particular area back when craigslist allowed legit escort ads...it was possible to simply use it and nothing else. I was getting responses from men4rent at the rate at about once every 2 months. Rentboy was just a dusty old picture album. Just wasn't worth it. But that's what we need again, another mainstream form of marketing. All the sites you mentioned get you a few clients initially, then eventually dry up and you have to constantly spread yourself out.