Judge doesn't punish gaybashers

[+ Lucky]

RE: FLOWER SIGHS AGAIN

 

And woody is never bored here! I was wondering when you were going to chime in here. Thanks for not going so hard on me this time. Doncha think that BraBOy posts just like someone with fangs? At least he can swim with the fins!

[Rick Munroe]

RE: Confess your stupidity, Flower

 

[font color="green"

] I'm not into hairy guys [/font]

 

I'd shave for you, Flower (well, not really, but I wouldn't balk at the idea as quickly as I usually do).

[+ Lucky]

RE: Confess your stupidity, Flower

 

So Rick, the point of your post and its headline is?

[Guest jeffOH]

RE: FLOWER SIGHS AGAIN

 

>And woody is never bored here! I was wondering when you were

>going to chime in here. Thanks for not going so hard on me

>this time. Doncha think that BraBOy posts just like someone

>with fangs? At least he can swim with the fins!

 

Sometime you're a little slow, Lucky, but I like that in a man. Hairy

Pussy is SO obviously FFF.

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

[+ Lucky]

RE: FLOWER SIGHS AGAIN

 

Personnally, I like a man with a slow hand. Bra Boy writes like Foom, is mean like Donnie, and smart like Truth Teller. Which makes me fear for his mental health, but, hey, we're all here to have a good time, aren't we?

 

(Well,okay, he's not as smart as TT.)

[Flower]

Rick put's it all in Perspective again :-)

 

>[font color="green"

>] I'm not into hairy guys [/font]

>

>I'd shave for you, Flower (well, not really, but I wouldn't

>balk at the idea as quickly as I usually do).

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]

You're very sweet, Rick (in a str8 acting......ooops--masculine sorta way of course) }( but I'd never ask you to shave--in fact you're one dude with hair I find very attractive--maybe it's the combination of superior intelligence, quick but friendly wit, and that cute avatar }( who knows, but believe it or not, I almost deleted that comment just in case you read the thread

[Flower]

RE: FLOWER LIES AGAIN

 

>I'm not writing for an audience. I don't give a fuck who

>reads it. As I said, few things sicken me more than assholes

>who run around making false statements and then lying about

>them.

>

>Just FUCKING ADMIT that you were wrong. Try this:

 

>That's all. It won't hurt. It will make you a much better

>person. Try it, you sick pig.

>

[font color = "Green"

]Actually, Max, I think you do care who reads this—quite a bit in fact--what you don't care about is how accurate your statements are, just as long as they are aggressive and abusive -- I am now convinced more than ever that you are just using this as advertisement for your escorting services and trying to come across particularly aggressive for those who are into that sort of humiliation—why else call people “sick pigs” and become so verbally abusive about this type of subject matter?

 

Hey--I wonder if we could make YOU a hate crime? :+

 

Anyway, I'm sure you are quite good at your humiliation bullshit so have your fun.

 

I earlier guessed that you were a law student and I think I'm correct. Law students have the undeserved arrogance of attorneys, but with no practical application. For instance, experienced attorney's never site law review articles unless they are in trouble. LR articles are esoteric and come from academia -- the way things ought to be, not the way they are--i.e., Neither LR nor law school is the real world, Max.

 

Actually, In the real world, very few attorneys or judges bother to make the distinction between the Homosexual Panic Defense (HPD) and Homosexual Advance (HA) because they are used almost interchangeably and almost always in conjunction with each other—an attorney would be silly not to try and get his client completely off by having the jury find him “temporarily insane” but now, after the trial, sane and OK to release -– especially since one takes the same evidence as the other. Very seldom will a jury acquit on either gay defense, but often will allow the reduction of the crime. You’ll also find that these defenses have their names interchanged from one writer to the other, so what one writer calls HA another calls HPD.

 

Quite frankly, I'm really bored with this topic and your attitude and especially YOU. When you get out of law school and join the real world you'll see that your way of arguing and your lack of depth in thinking won't fly--that's sorta like saying to a little kid--"when you grow up, kid, you'll understand!" :+

 

That being said, and since you like LR, try this on for size. It mixes up the names and calls HPD what your cited LR called HA—see what I mean?

 

http://infoeagle.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/law/lwsch/journals/bctwj/21_2/03_TXT.htm

 

Therein, the following re the Jenny Jones fiasco several years ago: [font color = "black"

]

On March 6, 1995, Scott Amedure appeared with Jonathan Schmitz on the Jenny Jones talk show.2 He revealed that he had a secret crush on Schmitz.3 Schmitz was not flattered; rather, he felt “embarrassed” and “humiliated.”4

 

Nor did Schmitz “take it lying down.”5 Three days after the taping, he visited a local bank, withdrew money from his savings account, [*PG280]and purchased a shotgun.6 He then drove to Amedure’s trailer.7 Standing at the door, Schmitz shot Amedure twice through the heart, killing him.8 He then left the trailer, dialed 911, and confessed to the shooting.9

 

Because Schmitz’s deadly reaction stemmed from an appearance on a national talk show, People v. Schmitz is perhaps the most infamous case in which a defendant has asserted the Homosexual Panic Defense (HPD).10 In defense of his actions, Schmitz argued that the humiliation of being objectified by Amedure’s homosexual affections drove him to kill.11 Basically, he blamed Amedure; more specifically, he blamed Amedure’s sexuality.12 In so doing, he asked the jury to sympathize with his reaction to this homosexual crush.13 [font color = "red"

]They sympathized.14 The jury found Schmitz guilty of the lesser offense of second-degree murder, despite the fact that the prosecution tried him for first-degree murder.15[font color = "black"

]

Although the Schmitz case is an infamous example of the HPD’s role in reducing culpability for anti-gay violence, the case is not unique.16 To the contrary, a troubling pattern has emerged from cases involving the HPD; from the inconsistent and inaccurate manner with which attorneys assert the defense, to the prejudices attorneys and judges explicitly rely on to decide whether to employ the defense, to [*PG281]the egregious violence that juries excuse when they are exposed to the defense, it is clear that when a judge allows a defendant to use the HPD, she allows that defendant to blame the victim, to solicit courtroom actors’ anti-gay biases, and to further institutionalize in the legal system our society’s prejudice against gays.17 Because “[t]here is reason to believe that gay-bashing is the most common and most rapidly increasing . . . [of] hate-related crimes in the United States,” the continued use of the HPD raises disturbing questions concerning the extent to which the legal system—and the society it reflects and supposedly protects—is willing to condone prejudice and excuse violence against gays.18

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Or this,

 

http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/cardlrev/v22n2/mccoy.pdf

 

Where it is made clear that the homosexual advance defense and the homsexual panic defense are used by many interchangably and often courts and attorneys don't understand either.

 

So, kid, ya wore me out. Say what you want after this, if you have the guts to respond yet again. Or you can just call names and be abusive or just say nothing, pretending you didn’t read it, but we know you did—ya just can’t stay away:+

 

.......and in the end, Flower is right – again!

[Rick Munroe]

RE: Rick put's it all in Perspective again :-)

 

[font color=green

]>believe it or not, I almost deleted that

>comment just in case you read the thread [/font]

 

There you go again...you always say something that makes me smile, Flower (yeah, I smile a lot but...well, you know).