Ideas for escort safety

[Guest in yer face]

Given the recent revelations about a certain arrested escort (tired of talking about it, BTW), I would like to start a thread for some real ideas for escorts to stay safe, both in terms of law, and in the realm of dealing with clients. Lets try to keep this on on topic, no arguments, and just ignore the negative posts that are bound to spring up. Ill start with a few:

 

1. Don't ever accept money until AFTER the appointment. Even talking money once you are there can get you in trouble. Besides, a "csh upfront" escort (outside of an agency) is a bad sign. If they push the cash in your face, just say "Put that away"

 

2. ALways follow your gut instinct. Desperation will always get you in trouble. If it dont seem right, walk away.

 

3. If conversations go to places that make you uncomfortable, just change the subject. If it seems like they are pushing it, ask them to leave (underage, drugs, etc)

 

4. Keep your real name, birthdate, and other personal info to yourself. Always take your wallet into the bathroom when you shower. You have no idea how much havac someone with too much information can make in your life.

 

ANy others?

[eastbayguy]

Here's a safety thought. A friend and I do this for each other for our various tricks. We e-mail or phone each other with the pertinent contact info on the trick. Before I invite someone over that I meet on gay.com or whatever, I e-mail or call my friend with the details. Screen name, phone, whatever I know. My friend does the same with me.

 

That way, should some random come over and murder my friend or I, someone knows a little something about who might have done it. We try to establish the approximate arrival time, etc.

 

It is pretty unlikely that something would go wrong. But, this is an easy precaution to take. My friend does this a lot more than I do. But, seems like escorts ought to have someone backstopping them and at least keeping notes on where they go, etc.

 

--EBG

[Guest Hole_4_Hire]

I'm not a real big fan of escort agencies. But, they do provide an added degree of safety for the escort. Someone else knows exactly where you're going and when you should be finished.

 

Several years ago it was very common for "agency escorts" to call the agency from the client's home to let them know they arrived safely. It also provided the agency with the caller ID info in case the escort "disappeared".

 

However, escorts can do the same thing with a friend. The main rule of thumb I use is that someone else should know where you're going.

 

I also recommend that escorts do NOT take their "real" wallet with them to the clients home/room. Leave your "real" wallet locked in the car. A second wallet, with a small amount of cash, fake ID, etc. can be used if money is necessary or to give to the client if he tries to rob you. NEVER take credit cards, nice jewelery, or expensive "toys" with you on the first meeting.

[+ glutes]

>I also recommend that escorts do NOT take their "real" wallet

>with them to the clients home/room. Leave your "real" wallet

>locked in the car. A second wallet, with a small amount of

>cash, fake ID, etc. can be used if money is necessary or to

>give to the client if he tries to rob you. NEVER take credit

>cards, nice jewelery, or expensive "toys" with you on the

>first meeting.

 

And I recommend that punters (johns) do the same thing. The second wallet idea is called a 'muggers wallet'.

[Guest Hole_4_Hire]

A few years ago (when "full contact" was the standard at strip clubs, bars, and baths) there was a popular rip-off that fooled a lot of people. A cute guy would approach offering a cheap or free blow job (usually in a dark corner or restroom). While the "blowee" was guiding the head of the "blower" by his ears and enjoying being sucked, the "blower" was reaching in the "blowee's" back pocket and taking the wallet. Most "blowees" were so distracted by getting head that they didn't realize the wallet had been lifted.

 

Unfortunately, the blowee's were usually so embarassed that they didn't call the police or report it. x(

 

The muggers wallet has merits for both the escort and the client.

[Flower]

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] That's a good idea as long as the "trick" knows you do this--then it becomes a PREVENTATIVE SAFETY measure. If he doesn't know you do this, then it's only an after the fact INVESTIGATIVE TOOL for the police to track down your "murderer" and for your parents to sue for wrongful death }(

 

.....and I wouldn't tell the trick about until AFTER he gives you a phone # or email or whatever else you get that makes you feel secure in thinking you can track him with.:+

[langster]

Hole4hire, had a simular thing happen one time as my friend, myself, and two other guys were at a club in New Orleans, think is was the Pheonix, this guy came up to him, a hunk, started talking and one thing led to another and before long he had my friends cock in his mouth. When we got ready to leave, he could not find his car keys. The guy had apparently seen us get out of his car and set him up. Try explaining that to the police in front of a gay bar and your boss as it was a company car, LOLOL! Found it 6 months later in Florida.

[CT Dick]

>the "blower" was reaching in

>the "blowee's" back pocket and taking the wallet.

 

That's exactly how I lost my wallet in Manchester, UK. x(

 

Dick

[Denver Traveler]

I had the same experience while at a club in DC. Now I never carry my real wallet with me when going out to play. Also, be carefull about leaving your real wallet in the car. In many areas the burglars know this, and car breakins follow.

[VaHawk]

A real oldie but goodie. I never carry a wallet of any kind. I would suggest that you put your money somewhere that is inaccessible to roving hands, i.e. a zippered pocket or in your shoes when the mood carries you away.

 

I know this thread was supposed to be about escort safety, but what the heck about client safety? I would be willing to wager that more "clients" have been harmed/robbed by "escorts" than the other way around. But I believe that is the case with a street/bar pickup than a hookup via an agency or independents discussed/reviewed here.

 

And just as an aside, where is "punt", "trick" "john" less offensive as a term for a client than "whore" is for an escort?

 

As to the original question posted I would add for both escort and client that if it is a first time encounter to never let yourself be physically incapacitated in any way (i.e. no handcuffs, bondage, etc.) as you may run into a Mr. Goodbar who will make that first encounter with him be your last with anyone.

 

Other points I would suggest would include never engage in alcohol or drugs on a first encounter. Whether a client or an escort you need to have all your faculties at full force on a first encounter.

[Guest Merlin]

I bought a zippered envelope (with a belt loop)which slips down inside the pants, for my ID, credit card and extra cash. It would be impossible to steal or lose. Then I carry some cash and no more in a billfold.

I can be dangerous to accept a drink other than an unopened bottle or can. Vince Rockland told about going to a clients home and accepting a drink. Later he felt woozie and realized he had been drugged. He quickly left and called a friend who came for him.

I hired from one agency which informed me in the phone conversation that since the amount had been agreed, the escort would not discuss or accept money until after the meeting was over. Individual escorts could use the technique. It is not foolproof but it would make it harder for the police to run a sting.

[+ glutes]

(i.e. no

>handcuffs, bondage, etc.) as you may run into a Mr. Goodbar

>who will make that first encounter with him be your last with

>anyone.

Which brings me back to the SF Twink scam, why would anyone call themselves 'DaveGoodbar'????

[Luv2play]

I have always made it a rule not to be tied up by anyone. I was just coming out as a gay man when I was attending law school and I will never forget my second year when I was taking a course in criminal law. As a special lecture, which this school did every year, we were given a slide show by the chief of police of this very large North American city, of the 10 grisliest murders of the previous year. The police chief would describe the events and his assistant projected the photos taken by the police investigating the crime.

 

One of that year's top ten crimes depicted a gay man who had invited someone to his house. There had been a bondage scene and the victim still had items of leather apparel on the various parts of his body that were strewn around the room. His head still had the leather hood on, with a rag stuffed down his throat. Unfortunately, his head was no longer attached to his body. I will NEVER forget those pictures! We had been warned to bring bags with us as some students vomited.

 

It can be a crazy world.:-(

[+ glutes]

This reminds me of a friend who hired a street hustler who he 'befriended' after several visits. They ran the usual games of tie me up on the bed and, I assume, some disipline of some sort. Well the 'new found friend' show up with a buddy one day (unannounced) at his apartment , they proceeded to wrap him up in his venetian blinds and stuffed dirty sock into his mouth to stifle his screams.

The pair then ransacked his apartment, stole all the usual valuables (cash, credit cards, jewlery, radios, tv, cellphone). Desk receptionist at hotel became suspicious after papers piled up outside the door, used pass key to find friend severly dehydrated (amongst other maladies).

The 'friends' were ID'd by surveillence video and later caught.

Use caution!!!!