Using STD/HIV "verification" services...

[Guest girls]

some new services are being introduced to help combat diseases like HIV and other std's. They basically allow you to see when your partner was last tested and what their results were. Each user must be tested at least once a year and you share this information ONLY with the people who decide can see your results...it's not like an open profile thing. There is also one that you can buy from the APPstore.

Do you think this is something escorts could use or would you be interested in using them?

The two different services are

checmateapp.com and QPID.me

 

what do you all think?

[rguer]

I'm more concerned about herpes, which is not as serious but is more easily transmitted. Condom use pretty much protects against HIV; it doesn't protect against herpes.

[+ Travis69]

I think the verification services would give some people a false sense of security and they would do unsafe things.

[KMEM]

I think the verification services would give some people a false sense of security and they would do unsafe things.

 

You mean they don't now (do unsafe things)? Of course, they do, knowingly or not. The incidence of HIV and other STDs in not just a statistical anomaly, is it? Generally the person MOST interested in the test results is the testee himself. If negative, "others" just do not become collateral damage.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Guest girls]

I think the verification services would give some people a false sense of security and they would do unsafe things.

 

people are already doing unsafe things, that's why this disease hasn't yet ended. i think irresponsible people will continue to be irresponsible, but what about the responsible ones? these services could be a great tool for them to use.

[+ Travis69]

Yes, I am very aware that many people do unsafe things. I do not live in a cave. Read any hook up site and see the guys who post "if you promise you are HIV negative you can bareback me and bring all your negative friends too". How stupid is that. I think this "verification" could possibly persuade the usually safe people who require condoms to have a false sense of security and do something stupid like bareback with a stranger. Unless the person can prove to have been celibate since the test what good is the test? There are too many variables with HIV testing results to trust them in my opinion. I had a guy pull out a doctor's report showing he was tested and HIV negative at the time of the test and try to presuade me to do unsafe things. I laughed, pulled up my pants and went home.

[+ azdr0710]

very important topic, of course, but wondering if the newbie OP is, primarily, promoting some apps here in his/her first post.....sorry to be a cynical bastard if I'm wrong

[Juan Vancouver]

I have to jump on the "Let's not and say we did" bandwagon.

 

I also think this would give people a false sense of safety, which would lead many to make misinformed decisions. I am very old fashioned in my approach but I prefer to meet every single sexual partner as if he was carrier of all diseases. The more carefully I engage in safer practices, the safer my work will be, which is of utmost importance both for my clients and myself.

 

With the advent of quick testing for HIV I have already met with a few men who welcome me with a needle read to prick me, with the promise that if the result is negative I can "let my guard down and use them and abuse them and do all the things that I always have desired to do but don't dare to".

 

Needles to say, needles are a deal breaker, and if they are allowing other men to do with them as they please I rather not go there. In all those cases I have declined their generous offer and left.

 

One thing is to engage in an unsafe act after having carefully gauged your risks and made your peace with them, an entirely different thing is to make a stupid choice based on a false "negative" result which has only validity in a long term diagnosis, rather than acting as a safeguard for free barebacking. Give people this app and infections will soar.

 

And... If it comes in a software, it will be easy to crack, allowing unscrupulous people to misrepresent themselves.

 

No, thanks. Condoms for everyone!

[tom1980]

very important topic, of course, but wondering if the newbie OP is, primarily, promoting some apps here in his/her first post.....sorry to be a cynical bastard if I'm wrong

 

I had the same thought. Sounds like a sales pitch or at least market research. If it is market research, this is probably a good place to ask the question. Personally, I would never rely on such a report to engage in unsafe sex. I do think there is some value and would feel better about having safer sex with an escort who was recently tested and found to be clean. But I think all clients and escorts have to approach each encounter as though their partners do have an std and act accordingly.

[Guest girls]

nope..i have nothing to do with these services. i made a point to mention two different ones to show i'm not profiting from either. i don't think people should use the services as markers for unsafe sex. there is no test, app, or service anyone should use as a means to have bareback sex. there's always risks with that. it would feel a bit more relieving though to have sexual activity with someone who was recently tested negative. a false sense of security? hm...maybe, just a bit. but i'd still use condoms. it's just an extra barrier of defense that doesn't really hurt to have.

[RockHard]

Verify please. (Not at all sure it could work.)

 

The idea that some people would view this as a "license" to engage in unsafe sex is interesting. But considering the calls for bareback sex on CL and other hook-up sites, I have a feeling no amount of information will change the men who simply have a death wish. They are many.

 

I'm in the camp of men who like to know and share health status with my partners, and I also like to know men who get tested regularly. The knowledge has nothing to do with any desire for unsafe sex. My health and my life are more important to me than any 20-second orgasm. Therefore, if a sex partner asks to get fucked without a condom, I lose my erection instantly.

 

Being intimate with someone who is willing to put honesty on the line is the greatest aphrodisiac going. It may be a mental thing, but it sure is an important one to me.

[KMEM]

Isn't (almost) everything mental? As has been said many times before, the brain is the largest sex organ. However, virtually all "modern day" activities (as well as many age old ones) are risk laden, the question is, how much risk and how best to evaluate it? Sex, with or without condoms, has a share of risk just not at the same level as barebacking.

 

I have flown single engine aircraft many times over the Atlantic ocean from North America to Europe. Yes, it is risky, but I have always considered what I was doing and why as well as having done my very best to determine the level of risk. Modern piston engine general aviation aircraft seldom quit for mechanical reasons. The most often reason is running out of fuel, also a possiblity when traveling over 1700 nautical miles in one go. Nonetheless, a one time loss of THE engine may indeed be one time too many. Regardless, I am willing to have what is commonly regarded as safe sex but I am not willing to have bareback sex for any presently known reason. Flying the Atlantic is "much" less risky, according to me.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Guest girls]

i share the exact same sentiment. i think those who see it first and foremost as a way to bareback are likely the ones who will end up with the disease, using these services or not. People will bareback regardless unfortunately...sometimes other factors like drugs and money play an issue in that. Not sure we can ever avoid that. I like knowing my partners' statuses as well and these services seem like they will make things a bit easier. The big question is, who else is willing to join ? These services will be successful depending on how many users they have. If it's not catching on then it's quite useless. Nevertheless, we should ALWAYS be using protection.

[Guest girls]

crap. tried to post a message and not sure what happened to it, lol.

was just going to say that i agree. this is not about finding ways to bareback. it's about being concerned about your sexual partner's std statuses, for your extra protection. the big question is how many people are willing to join. if they can't get users then the services are just plain useless.

[RockHard]

Isn't (almost) everything mental?

 

If only I could mentally will my cock into the 90º angle it took when I was 26. :-(

[Guest girls]

If only I could mentally will my cock into the 90º angle it took when I was 26. :-(

 

and your user name is "rockhard"...lol...the irony

[RockHard]

and your user name is "rockhard"...lol...the irony

 

Obviously, you're too new here to know how I came to be on this board.

 

the big question is how many people are willing to join.

 

And under what name.

 

Escorts who mention their HIV- status in their ads will always get a second look from me. What they actually say about it can get a third look and a phone call. A smart escort doesn't really need a verification service to verify his status. And what client in his right mind would use his real name on such a list? Don't see this happening.

[Guest girls]

Obviously, you're too new here to know how I came to be on this board.

 

 

 

And under what name.

 

Escorts who mention their HIV- status in their ads will always get a second look from me. What they actually say about it can get a third look and a phone call. A smart escort doesn't really need a verification service to verify his status. And what client in his right mind would use his real name on such a list? Don't see this happening.

 

just because someone puts "hiv-" doesn't mean much not to say you should bareback using these services but who knows when the last time they were tested, or if they are even being truthful. on checmateapp only your photo is shown, so no other private information is shared. would be a nice tool for them considering they have MANY more sexual partners than the average joe. you can also put ur pic on qpid. so there is still ways to make it a bit more private.