Gay Couple on Atlantis Cruise Arrested Aboard Ship for Sodomy in Dominica

[RockHard]

Island flava...

 

It's one of the reasons I have no intention of ever going to the Caribbean since too many places there are openly hostile to gay people.

 

I've been all over the Caribbean islands and returned many times to the same places for business. I have never felt hostility of any kind, except on the island of St. Croix. I will never return there.

 

I should also add that I have several fond sex stories involving local island men. In each story, I was approached and hit up for action. I never make the first move, and dark skin and hair is not really my thing. But I do like adventure.

 

I've experienced some really fun and hot sex while visiting the Caribbean, all of it completely unexpected. Some of those island guys really love to suck white cock and lick white hole. They know how to orally please another man. I have photos documenting some of the action.

[Guest Kyle_K]

I've been all over the Caribbean islands and returned many times to the same places for business. I have never felt hostility of any kind, except on the island of St. Croix. I will never return there.

 

I should also add that I have several fond sex stories involving local island men. In each story, I was approached and hit up for action. I never make the first move, and dark skin and hair is not really my thing. But I do like adventure.

 

I've experienced some really fun and hot sex while visiting the Caribbean, all of it completely unexpected. Some of those island guys really love to suck white cock and lick white hole. They know how to orally please another man. I have photos documenting some of the action.

 

Everything of which you have described here should still be labeled as a traveler's behavior beware. I also suspect that what-ever and where-ever your enjoyable romps in the sack took place - they were probably not within the public view to be considered offensive to the culture of the people where such acts took place. Which is at the core and reason of this thread.

[+ azdr0710]

a gay cruise line should be avoiding these places that actively discriminate against gays.

 

I don't think the ship would've even been allowed to dock if that place discriminates!!

 

c'mon, take responsibility for your own actions!!....these two guys were probably a bit drunk and decided to blatantly fool around in full view of the harbor....they knew what they were doing....same arrest would've happened if it was a straight couple, I'm guessing

[rocky]

Oh please help me then; I'm on a cruise to Bermuda/Nassau/Bahama's where are these cute men???

[seeker630]

While I agree these guys brought it on themselves... I also agree that a gay cruise line should be avoiding these places that actively discriminate against gays. It's one of the reasons I have no intention of ever going to the Caribbean since too many places there are openly hostile to gay people.

 

Should the choice to boycott be made by the cruise lines or the men who decide which cruises to take? Ultimately, its gay men who make the choice.

[Guest Kyle_K]

Should the choice to boycott be made by the cruise lines or the men who decide which cruises to take? Ultimately, its gay men who make the choice.

 

Let's leave the cruise line out of this. This event had nothing to do with them. So, as you state, it's up to "us" gay men to determine if we should boycott or not.

 

If you choose to boycott this cruise line then you will be setting the gay community back further than it was when Anita Bryant was rightfully taken to task and boycotted in the '70's.

 

If you don't know your gay history then don't deny the rest of us who do and who recognize the fact that this event is everything that EVERYONE should realize is simply bad behavior by two out of touch gay men who believe that that their right to publicly fuck trumps all public decency standards that everyone else in our society and others subscribe to.

 

We might be queer, but we have never been stupid nor unreasonable individuals.

 

Please stop trying to make this wrong a right.

[seeker630]

Let's leave the cruise line out of this. This event had nothing to do with them. So, as you state, it's up to "us" gay men to determine if we should boycott or not.

 

If you choose to boycott this cruise line then you will be setting the gay community back further than it was when Anita Bryant was rightfully taken to task and boycotted in the '70's.

 

If you don't know your gay history then don't deny the rest of us who do and who recognize the fact that this event is everything that EVERYONE should realize is simply bad behavior by two out of touch gay men who believe that that their right to publicly fuck trumps all public decency standards that everyone else in our society and others subscribe to.

 

We might be queer, but we have never been stupid nor unreasonable individuals.

 

Please stop trying to make this wrong a right.

 

I never said anyone SHOULD boycott anything - I said the CHOICE is better left to gay men vs having someone else make it for us.

 

Nor did I imply in any way that the fault was anyone's other than the 2 men involved.

 

You're attributing all sorts of views to me that I have NOT expressed nor do I hold.

 

Somehow you have totally misread my post.

[Guest Kyle_K]

I never said anyone SHOULD boycott anything - I said the CHOICE is better left to gay men vs having someone else make it for us.

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You raised the question. As a gay man, I simply responded to it. Obviously you had no opinion about it until you felt necessary to respond to someone who answered your very question. I am not the problem here. You might have been better off here by not asking your question and to simply have stated how you feel about all of this. I did that. Hopefully, on your behalf.

[rvwnsd]

In other words, let them fend for themselves and thus decrease the surplus population. I understand that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one, but it seems very callous.

 

As I asked the first time around, what did you expect the cruise line to do?

 

By the way...do not put words into other people's mouths. Nowhere did I reference or imply that any population is surplus or should be reduced.

[seeker630]

You raised the question. As a gay man, I simply responded to it. Obviously you had no opinion about it until you felt necessary to respond to someone who answered your very question. I am not the problem here. You might have been better off here by not asking your question and to simply have stated how you feel about all of this. I did that. Hopefully, on your behalf.

 

I did state my opinion - tho obviously not clearly enough:

 

"Should the choice to boycott be made by the cruise lines or the men who decide which cruises to take? Ultimately, its gay men who make the choice."

 

 

As for your comments about 'not knowing gay history' and 'denying those of us who do'....well, I have no idea what prompted that. Nor have I tried 'to make this wrong a right'.

 

Please don't misrepresent my views.

[instudiocity]

Wow, you guys got way off the track. Atlantis Events - is a company that specializes in packaging cruises for gay men on generic cruise lines. Celebrity Cruises owns the boat.

[TruthBTold]

For good publicity's sake, I would have left a ship officer on the island to be flown with the couple back to the U.S. as the criminal proceedings progressed and after the proceedings were finished. Just in case things needed to be done. The whole ship did not need to be quarantined.

[jjkrkwood]

For good publicity's sake, I would have left a ship officer on the island to be flown with the couple back to the U.S. as the criminal proceedings progressed and after the proceedings were finished. Just in case things needed to be done. The whole ship did not need to be quarantined.

 

As is the recent Jet Blue airline case involving the badly behaved child which prompted extensive delay and cancellation of a particular flight, its always the "many" that are punished for the bad behavior of "few".... I suppose the airline AND the cruise line felt it their responsibility to right a wrong, and made the decision on how to go about that. NOT the best decision in either case, but there are probably underlying reasons for their choices which we may not be aware of ? Bottom line in both cases is that they were unfortunate situations in which

innocent people were penalized.

[BewareofNick]

http://www.facebook.com/AtlantisEvents?sk=wall[/url]

....."The guests were never left on their own. We had both representatives from Atlantis and Celebrity cruises with them at all times during their ordeal and had our local representatives look after them last night. Furthermore, we worked closely with the US Embassy in Barbados to assure that their safety was always being monitored.

 

Atlantis had 2000 guests in port yesterday in Dominica and most of them had an outstanding time visiting the country. Celebrity Cruises has been extremely supportive, working with Atlantis to insure these guests’ safety and security despite their detention in Dominica. We commend them for their unwavering support through this incident.".......

 

Too many gay men (imo) still stroll through life with a bath-house mentality and expect others to then turn around and respect them for who they are.

 

This event was not about sexual-orientation. It was about failing to be well adjusted human beings in a complex and often times difficult society.

 

If anyone failed anybody here, it was both of these men, failing themselves. And in-directly, all of us.

 

Since it appears that the cruise line did not just abandon the two men, I withdraw my objection.

[KMEM]

Good on you, BoN. Why did you take so long and do it in the first place?

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[fedssocr1]

I don't think the ship would've even been allowed to dock if that place discriminates!!

 

c'mon, take responsibility for your own actions!!....these two guys were probably a bit drunk and decided to blatantly fool around in full view of the harbor....they knew what they were doing....same arrest would've happened if it was a straight couple, I'm guessing

 

As I said, these guys were wrong to do what they did. but the company set up a port stop in a place where "buggery" is a crime. that sure seems like discrimination to me. Why should we support a company that supports a country with these kinds of laws on the books? I have no problem "boycotting" such a company. But frankly I have no interest in going on a cruise anyway.

[BSR]

In how many jurisdictions in America is sex, gay or straight, in public legal? Gays looooooooooooooooove their victimhood, so much so that it becomes the prism through which they see the world.

[Guest]

As I said, these guys were wrong to do what they did. but the company set up a port stop in a place where "buggery" is a crime. that sure seems like discrimination to me. Why should we support a company that supports a country with these kinds of laws on the books? I have no problem "boycotting" such a company. But frankly I have no interest in going on a cruise anyway.

Although I consider myself past the age in which I can take full advantage of the gay cruising, I'm a very loyal client of Celebrity's. The fact that not just the company, but also the crew, are very supportive of the gay community acts as a major positive factor for me in selecting my cruise line. Although I usually go on Celebrity's "straight" cruises, they have "Friends of Dorothy" meeting places listed in the daily programs,in order for the gay passengers to get to know each other. When I sail with Celebrity, I know I'm in a gay-friendly, supportive environment. As for the original couple, if they were in their cabins when they were doing their thing, then shame on Dominica. If they were in a public place, then shame on them. And kudos to BofN for manning up and withdrawing your objection.