Black Tuesday- Got Dissed by ad rian

[Guest Bitchboy]

Jack, if you were liked by ad rian, we'd be worried about you. Depression sucks, I'm sure, but does your need to be liked by EVERYONE include an unhappy, narrow-minded, hateful bigot? I take pride in the fact that he dislikes me. Please remember, unhappy people are dangerous people. Ad rian is very dangerous.

[Guest Gringo]

jack,

don't b pulled down by small minds. u will b known by the company you keep. xoxx:)

[Boston Guy]

Hey,

 

First, Merry Christmas!

 

Second, the Internet has always been chock full of people who are willing to say anything at all to or about other people. They seem to forget that there are real, live, thinking, breathing and feeling, flesh-and-blood human beings at the ends of these wires. And sometimes they write what they write just to provoke or start something for their own amusement, again without concern for the feelings of their victims -- things they would never in a thousand years say to someone's face. It's just the nature of the beast here and it isn't going to change. The only thing to do is realize what the game is and ignore unfriendly comments. And to realize, of course, that these people don't know you -- not the real you -- so nothing they say can mean anything anyway.

 

Finally, I offer a Christmas Eve suggestion: instead of pushing your friends away today and tomorrow, go embrace them. Or go someplace where there are people. These are times to be with others. If your friends are celebrating Christmas in a way that you don't want to, then be with other people. Look up old friends, make a few calls, tell people that you were thinking of them. Make the rounds and invite other single friends out for a drink or lunch or dinner.

 

Or find others in need. There are so very many lonely people on Christmas Eve, many who have been forgotten. Go to a hospital and visit the sick or go to a nursing home and take some simple, generic gifts that older people would take pleasure in: a warm scarf, some flowers, perhaps a book or even some candy (unopened, of course). Or, if there's a children's hospital in your town, pick up some dolls and some of the small toys that boys like (Bionicles are a good choice right now -- kids love them and they're only about $10 each) and go give them to some of the kids in the hospital.

 

Instead of feeling sorry for yourself, go make other people happy. That's really what Christmas is about. So many people have so little compared to what we take for granted that we forget how lucky we really are.

 

The greatest cure for depression is reaching out and helping others, watching an old woman or a young child smile, lending a hand to those in need and also, of course, spending time with friends.

 

I recently ran into an old friend on the street in Boston. We used to be close but had drifted apart. Over the years I had thought of him many times and was always going to call him but never did. When I saw him on the street, he said the same thing.

 

It was great seeing him and remembering the times we had shared and how much I enjoyed his company. And we promised to stay in touch this time and you know what? We've seen each other several times since and he's back in my circle of friends and I am delighted. And I suspect that you and everyone who reads this can think of people who are just like my friend, people we once knew and liked very much but who have drifted away. Well, call them! Or spend an hour today writing six Christmas cards to old friends you haven't seen in a while and tell them you miss them and would like to get together.

 

But reach out to others. Force yourself to get moving and don't spend Christmas Eve and Christmas alone. If not for yourself, for those less fortunate.

 

You may just look back and find it was one of the best Christmas's you've spent in a long time.

 

I started by saying "Merry Christmas" and I'll end by saying the same thing: Merry Christmas to you. There are many kinds of joy to be found on Christmas and I hope some of it finds you.

 

BG

[jackhammer91406]

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[ad rian]

>I finally got bad

>mouthed by ad rian on the rating board. I guess I should take

>comfort in the fact that I now am on a list including some of

>the greatest guys on this board. However, it still feels

>rotten to be hashed by someone I have only tried to say

>helpful things to. Oh well, guess I fold up my tent and go

>hide for a week. Merry Christmas.

 

Sorry, you thought it was negative. I thought it was constructive, and on balance quite positive. If that's negative, just think of the asaults I endure here regularly for opposing Israel or for sticking up for the safety of Brazil. Happy New Year!

[ad rian]

>I take pride in the fact that he dislikes me. Please

>remember, unhappy people are dangerous people.

 

Actually, the only negative note about him was his pandering to the Zionist zealots here. Other than that I think the guy's great, and his insights useful. As he gains more self-confidence, I think he will learn to treat you folks in an appropriate manner. Merry Christmas!

[ad rian]

You hit the nail on the head, my friend. There is nothing that I wrote that should upset this guy. I hope he takes up your suggestions. I hope others do also. Does giving someone a "neutral" rating constitute being bad-mouthed now? Please, let's be serious!

[ad rian]

>However, it still feels

>rotten to be hashed by someone I have only tried to say

>helpful things to.

 

Can you please explain why this set you off: "Good heart, interesting insights, but lacks the confidence of his convictions and is too easily turned by abusive/negative zealots."?

[phage]

Jack,

 

Sorry you’re feeling down, but if you are feeling vulnerable and thin-skinned, for goodness sake, turn off the ratings feature in your profile. I thought ad rian’s remarks were really quite mild. If you took them to heart, you obviously aren’t cut out for playing the ratings game.

 

You weren’t around last time it was used, but it lead to a lot of hard feelings and tit-for-tat kind of ratings that brought out the worst in many of the people here. I didn’t participate last time and was glad to see the disable feature on this latest upgrade. I’m actually quite thick-skinned and couldn’t care less how other posters rate my contributions, but I find the whole concept childish.

[Guest alanm]

Jack:

 

I agree with you. Comments like "lacks the confidence of his conviction" and "too easily turned by abusive/negative zealots" are hurtful unnecessary comments, especially a day before Christmas.

You have every right to be upset. The comments were written specifically to upset you, so now move on. It's easy for other people to say do not be thin skinned, harder when it happens to you.

 

The good news is that you CAN turn off the ratings, so some thing like this will not happen again.

 

Hope you have a great holiday.

[jackhammer91406]

Good advice Phage, thanks, it's been disabled.

[ad rian]

>The comments were written

>specifically to upset you, so now move on.

 

No they were not. Frankly, if I had any clue he would have reacted this way I would not have made the comments. Obviously ths person has deeper problems which I now understand. (I did not read his earlier posts about his Depresion for the same reason that I don't watch Oprah or Dr. Phil.) The comments were intended as constructive criticism. Did you not read the positive comments that came before. What I wrote was very mild by the abuse that is regularly thrown around here. On a general note, if people want to engage in criticism on this Board in posts or in ratings, they ought to be able to take a response. I can and I do.

[jackhammer91406]

RE: Going for light

 

Thanks to all who replied (yes ad rian, I mean all). Yes I have had some trouble this summer and you guys have been great about letting me bend your ear with my problems. I am by nature a loving, caring giving man who happens to find himself at a point where he regrets a lot of decisions made years ago. The depression has made me much less fun to be around and the guys on this board who have gone out of their way to be friendly mean a lot to me. I respect everyone's right to have an opinion. Not having knowing hurled criticism at anyone, I guess I was unprepared for it. Yes, I am at this point a little thin skinned. I have never been an insecure person until this year. I have always been an alpha male type who was good at isolating problems and then creating solutions. With my current condition, I kinda got in over my head, so I have turned off the ratings, dropped the avatar, and deleted most of the profile. I am going to see if I can take the good advice offered here and break out of this isolation and meet some good guys in the RW like the ones I met here. Thanks for your friendship and support. See you guys around sometime.

jackhammer91406

[jackhammer91406]

RE: going for the light

 

Also, thanks to the moderator for honoring my request to delete reply number 4. Aprreciate guys.

jack

[+ Lucky]

Since so many people who have "stopped" posting here return under different names, I would suggest the possibility that adrain is simply the reincarnation of truthteller. For those who don't know, the teller was probably the nastiest guy ever to post here, at least on a consistent basis.

Anyway, adrain said bad things about me too. I leave my ratings up because it is nice to get the compliment, and even if someone says something negative, at least they are thinking of me!

Merry Christmas!

[ad rian]

>Since so many people who have "stopped" posting here return

>under different names, I would suggest the possibility that

>adrain is simply the reincarnation of truthteller. For those

>who don't know, the teller was probably the nastiest guy ever

>to post here, at least on a consistent basis.

 

You've been known to throw some invective too, my friend. Sorry, I am not a reincarnated anybody, and no I will not apologize for critiquing Israel and its supporters here or anywhere no matter how much I am slandered. As I have pointed out before when you travel as frequently and as widely as I do you come to see that my views of that racist state are majority views. Villify me if you want, but facts are facts. Merry Christmas! As to the particular subject of the initial post, please sombebody show me how on earth its negativity surpassed daily M4M fare?

[VaHawk]

Merry Christmas to you! I want you to know that I have never been a big supporter of Israel as when you look at the historical facts, they reveal that Israel is often the aggressor with its policy of disenfranchising the local population with their ever expanding policy of settlements in Palestinian territory. This is very similar to the history of the US in it's own western expansion at the expense of the Native Americans. However, I believe that you will find that this is an Israeli philosophy and not a Judaic one, but your posts in defending your position is often anti-Semitic and not anti-Israeli, and IMO there is a difference. I will assume that your handle of ad rian is not a take off on "a rian" vis-a-vis "aryan" (shades of Hitler), and will look forward to reading your further posts as they are often informative and keep the board lively with a different point of view, which you are so definitely entitled to express.

 

As most posters here are aware of, jackhammer is going thru a serious bout of depression, and if you have ever had the misfortune of experiencing that, you know how devastating it can be and how very sensitive you can be to the opinions of others you interact with, even if they are on an internet posting board. In your defense, you state that you were unaware of that as you did not read his posts because they were so "Oprah". In that case, you should not have posted a rating for him, even if it was neutral and not meant to be offensive or critical. In other words, as your mother should have taught you "if you don't have anything good to say, then don't say anything at all". By your posts I assume you are Christian, so please practice a little more of the Golden Rule and the beautiful teachings of Jesus, especially during the Christmas season.

 

Thanks and keep posting. :) :)

[Guest alanm]

To ad rian

 

I do not believe that I have ever made critical comments about you until today. In fact, I agree with some of your postings. I did not

come to my conclusion based on any dislike of you.

 

I thought your comments were too strong, especially on the day before Christmas. Now that we know the OP has had some problems with depression recently, the kind thing to do would be to either apologize or just stop posting.

 

Happy Holidays, ad rian

[marc anthony]

OK... I certainly don't want to add any fuel to the fire, as I know feelings are running quite touchy around here.

 

But as I was sitting here hoping for the best for Jack, I was found myself also wishing that he did not submit that negative no-show review of Scott Bradley, assuming he did not show up because "he must just party too much."

 

Scott frequents the Atkol forum message boards, where he has revealed himself a quite conflicted boy who went through some depression himself just about a month ago.

 

It is true that Scott may have been a no-show in that instance, but I just hope that Jack and all of those who have come to this board in his defense agree that the review did not need the additional judgemental comments.

 

For everyone who has said let's treat others as we would like to be treated, I say... YES, LET'S!

[jackhammer91406]

apology where apology is due

 

Marc,

The timing of today's no show review for Scott and my slippage in emotions couldn't have been more poorly timed. I did e-mail Scott about two weeks ago when someone on this site pointed out to me that an ad was still running for him. I wanted to alert him to that in case he didn't know. I meant what I said that I wouldn't have posted it at all had he actually retired. But as you also point out, in my attempt to give him the benefit of the doubt that things can go wrong in one's personal life on any given day ( as I well know with today as proof), I should have left the rest unsaid and for that I offer my heartfelt apology to him and to any poster who was offended by it's inclusion. If he was suffering depression about one month ago, that is near the time of our appt. I certainly have an understanding of how that could impact someone.

 

I am grateful for all the remarks posted in reply here. At least in the short time I was here, I met some really great people and some really intelligent people. I will recover from this mess, and then maybe it'll be ok with you guys if I come back from time to time and see if I have anything I can add. I hate mood swings. I really am used to being more in control of my moods and emotions. My skin is thicker than this under usual circumstances. Best for the new year to everyone.

 

jack

[BewareofNick]

RE: Mazel Tov

 

>Since so many people who have "stopped" posting here return

>under different names, I would suggest the possibility that

>adrain is simply the reincarnation of truthteller. For those

>who don't know, the teller was probably the nastiest guy ever

>to post here, at least on a consistent basis.

>Anyway, adrain said bad things about me too. I leave my

>ratings up because it is nice to get the compliment, and even

>if someone says something negative, at least they are thinking

>of me!

>Merry Christmas!

 

Lucky,

 

There's a couple of reasons why ad rian simply could not be truth teller:

 

1. TT has a large IQ. ad rian has a small one. (I know size doesn't amtter to some folks.)

 

2. TT is clever, biting and insightful. ad rian is obsessive compulsive and easily manipulated.

 

3. TT is Jewish. ad rian is a Catholic priest.

 

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night

[Guest alanm]

RE: Mazel Tov

 

TT may have been witty, insightful... So what? He was also the most nasty, spiteful person that I have ever encountered on this site.

Lucky is probably wrong, which is a compliment to ad rian

[Guest Bitchboy]

VaHawk, you're a much better man than I am. I see no value in what ad rian posts whatsoever, because even his valid points are so tainted with his antisemitism it leaves them limp. He proclaims to be against Israel, yet drags in a mudering rabbi from New Jersey, makes sure everyone knows Winona Ryder's real last name is Horowitz, etc. in posts that have nothing whatsoever to do with Israel. The pig rabbi is from New Jersey. The felon actress resides in Los Angeles. Their thoughts on the politics of Israel remain unknown. Obviously, with this latest rant, he shows himself to be an insensitive oaf who values his right to observe over the feelings of someone in trouble.

 

He is definitely not truth teller. Vile as truth teller was, he was at least lucid.

[ad rian]

>VaHawk, you're a much better man than I am. I see no value

>in what ad rian posts whatsoever, because even his valid

>points are so tainted with his antisemitism it leaves them

>limp. He proclaims to be against Israel, yet drags in a

>mudering rabbi from New Jersey, makes sure everyone knows

>Winona Ryder's real last name is Horowitz, etc. in posts that

>have nothing whatsoever to do with Israel. The pig rabbi is

>from New Jersey. The felon actress resides in Los Angeles.

>Their thoughts on the politics of Israel remain unknown.

 

Again more nonsense, but this is a busy day so I must be brief. My posts about the murdering rabbi or the abusive orthodox rabbis were in the context of rants/threads initiated by others about abuse by RC priests. I am still waiting to be explained why that is antisemitic in the least.

 

As for Israel, you and others have reproached me for discussing it in the context of treads on the war on terror or on civil liberties at home. I await any sane explanation of how/why that is antisemitic.

 

As for the young actress, I repeated the court order to use her name. If you have a problem with that, tell it to the judge!

 

Finally, I reject the mindless infantalization of Jews that says that they are so unique as to be exempt from criticism. And for that an idiot like you or Bewareofnick scream antisemitism. How tedious. How predictable. But ultimately, how counter-productive. Merry XMas to all, and to all a good night!!

[LovesYng]

I don't know who ever said this but this fits Ad just right, once a asshole always a asshole. Give it a rest ad and put a end to your comments so this thread can stop. Merry Christmas ASSHOLE.;(. I'm sure he will have more to say now.